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The Raw Dog Food Truth
Pets with allergies, skin issues gut issues, and behavior issues can live better lives by eating a species-appropriate diet. Find out the dangers of kibble and cooked foods. Your Pet's Health Is Our Business "Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble"
The Raw Dog Food Truth
Your Pet Didn’t Evolve Into a Cereal Eater
What if the biggest upgrade to your pet’s health isn’t a prescription, but a bowl? We take on a stubborn myth head‑on: that domestication rewired dogs and cats to thrive on processed kibble. Using first principles—teeth built to slice, stomach acid built to break down raw tissue, and short intestines built for meat—we show why carnivore biology hasn’t changed in a century of convenience feeding. We also explore how fear, marketing, and over-reliance on clinics keep guardians stuck, even when the fix is as simple as feeding what the animal’s body expects.
Along the way, we dig into testing and labels around issues like Lyme disease, why symptom names aren’t always causes, and how chronic inflammation gets mistaken for “normal aging.” Raw bones safety comes up often, so we break down the difference between brittle cooked bones and pliable raw meaty bones, how to size and supervise, and what ERs really remove from stomachs (hint: it’s not raw bone). We share practical, step‑by‑step tips for transitioning to raw or fresh diets, including protein rotation, organ balance, and simple markers you can track at home to build confidence without outsourcing every decision.
This conversation also peels back the curtain on industry incentives—from the origins of kibble as a disposal channel to the sales loops that turn routine care into protocols. The goal isn’t to avoid veterinarians; it’s to use them where they shine: emergencies, complex cases, and holistic support that respects physiology over dogma. If you’ve wondered why your pet’s breath, skin, ears, joints, or stools never quite stabilize, this is your roadmap to a species‑appropriate reset grounded in anatomy, not advertising.
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Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble
Oh, snap, snap. Well, hello, raw feeders. I'm Didi Mercer Moffat, CEO of a raw dog food and company for your pet's house. It's our business. And we're friends like my friend, Dr. Judy Jason. Let friends feed Kibble. Because she's smart. She's smart. And she's holistic. Aren't you now? Every day. That's one thing I know for sure. Right? Right? You know, I I um I'm so do you let me ask you this. Do you think that with the information, okay, that is coming out about COVID vaccines, about the propaganda, about all the stuff that they were pushing? Do you think, Dr. Jasig, that the veterinary community would like hear that as an alarm bell or maybe a shovel upside the head that says you need to really look at what you are suggesting and recommending for pets? Do you think that they even consider that at all?
SPEAKER_02:Sadly, I think it's probably a very minimal consideration. I I don't think a lot of people, even very holistic people, make that jump. I think they still think, I think a lot of people, and people are starting to see the difference. I don't think people understand that the vaccines that are going into pets these days are every bit as bad as what's been put into people. They're this, it's the same stuff. It's probably worse because they're probably just taking leftovers from the human side. They're not testing them and they're just putting them in bottles and selling them on the pet side because they can get away with it. But you would think that it would be waking people up. And and I guess to to some degree it is, but not as much as you would think. Because and I tell people that, like, you know, they're using mRNA vaccines in animals, and most people are just shocked to hear that. It's not like it's not like common knowledge. Judy Morgan put out a video that I've seen put out. We we reposted on our Facebook. She put out one about mRNA vaccines. So it is getting out there, but for some reason, people seem reluctant to let go of this trust of their veterinarians, and they really need to let go of the trust.
SPEAKER_01:You do know that the whole the whole COVID thing was um being kind of that person that was supposedly the smart person, other than Dr. Anthony Fauci, was a vet. He was a vet, and I was just looking for his name because um Borla, his name was Borla. He was like the head of Pfizer or something, wasn't he?
SPEAKER_02:Or something like high up in Pfizer?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and um he was this veterinarian called Borla, and I was listening to the podcast uh with Tucker Carlson and uh this surgeon and this surgeon who was talking about he was actually doing informed consent, and uh he almost was put in to prison for informed consent on the for the vaccines, yes, and he said, Here's what he did. His patients would come in and uh he would say, Okay, um I don't know what's in this vaccine because this uh you know MSDS sheet is blank. I don't have any idea about that. Um and uh we've been searching for a vaccine to cure uh you know cancer and to cure other things for hundreds of years, uh and yet we have found a cure for something that looks very much like the flu in nine months. And he said, and here is uh another thing um hydroxychloroquine, who you know has been shown to do this, this, this, and this. Anyway, basically he just laid it out on the table. And he said, So I can I can go ahead and inject you with this. I have no idea what's in it, I don't know what the repercussions are going to be. What would you prefer? That's how he did it. But he absolutely said, um here's here's as a doctor, as a surgeon, here's what I know.
SPEAKER_02:Here's what I he's just being and he's just being honest with people, but we can't have that. No, no, no. He almost got put inject people, yeah. Yeah, go to go into jail for for just being being honest with people. Yeah, that's that's a real crime.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and he said think about it like this. What other industry? Think about the raw dog food industry, Dr. Jasik. Um he said we're forced to take what happened during the whole COVID is that we were forced to take their products and we have no recourse if their products hurt us because they have full immunity. What other industry has full immunity? And I loved what he said is if something works, if something is valuable, if people see that it helps their lives, you don't have to incentivize people. You don't have to give them a donut or free pizza or anything else because they will flock to you. I'd be screaming it from the rooftops, right? So I just said all that because I just wonder, it's now that information is coming out, it's out there for people to see and to hear. Um and I just wonder uh one of the things that he said on this podcast was Lyme disease. And here's what they said about Lyme disease it was a bioweapon. I've heard that. And yet, what do we connect Lyme disease to in the dog world? Ticks. A tick bite. Has there ever been any proof of that that you know of?
SPEAKER_02:No, and a good person, if if people want to look at this, um, Sam Bailey did a really great little talk, Dr. Sam Bailey from New Zealand. Um, I think you can still find her her Lyme disease talk on YouTube, and it's just like 15 minutes, but it was really good about how it's never been proven that it exists, that this organism causes it. And it's and again, it's not that people don't have symptoms, that pets don't have symptoms. Of course, that happens. It's the same with like things like parvo. Of course, puppies get sick. I've seen so many of these puppies, these horrific bloody diarrhea, but what is the cause? You know, somebody decides it's this organism and for Lyme diseases, borrelia, bacteria, that the tic spreads. So we got to blame the ticks. Well, then we can sell all these, you know, flea and tick preventatives and all that stuff. But that relationship has never been proven. And people get so hooked on like that Lyme disease thing. Like once either a human or pet is diagnosed with Lyme, and then any little symptom that, oh, that Lyme disease is flaring up. And then what do the vets do? Put them back on antibiotics again for six weeks, and then they just keep getting sicker because they just keep getting more drugs. They don't look at what else could be causing it. What it's all inflammation. What else is causing the inflammation? What other toxins was the pet exposed to? There's so many other things. The symptoms of Lyme disease are so nonspecific. But oh, I found a tick. I found a tick on my pet last week, and now my pet's limping. Must be in the tests. I don't believe any of these tests that they test Lyme disease or parvo or any of it. I I think it's just all invalid. So that you got to stay afraid, you got to stay to push their agenda, you gotta stay afraid of something. So we got to stay afraid of the ticks, we got to stay stay afraid of the parvo virus, you got to stay afraid of all these little things that you are floating out there that you can't see, and you don't think about what's really going on. And what's really going on is toxicity of some sort. That's what I think. Right. It's some some sort of poison, a lot of it coming from the medical profession.
SPEAKER_01:It is, it is, it is amazing. What is amazing is um that a lot of this information is out of there, out there and available now where we couldn't get to it before. But I will say this that this particular doctor that was on Tucker Carlson, and this was a September issue, um, but he was saying that a lot of the uh journals and and things that really questioned like uh the um effectiveness of vaccines and kind of what they were talking about. He said, You can't find them anymore. They are gone, they have been wiped. And he said um he wished that he you know would have taken a copy of it. But anyway, it was it was really, really, really, really super interesting. Um, and he was saying just how they have changed uh the wording, they have changed um the meaning of things, and therefore they can move their agenda. And you know, it's it's sort of um we see it all the time, right? In our industry, in your industry, you see it all the time. So something uh is thrown out there and people run with it and they they don't really do the research. And and one of the things that's really going around right now, Dr. J Zek, is that dogs have evolved, they have their teeth, their digestive, everything has evolved so that they can eat processed food and they can't eat raw food. Now, I can't really make sense of all that, but what I can say is that evolution, evolution works over tens of thousands to millions of years, and how long, Dr. Jasic, if dogs have evolved to eat kibble, i.e., processed food, how long has that food been around?
SPEAKER_03:Right?
SPEAKER_01:I mean a hundred years. Maybe a hundred, yeah, maybe not probably not even, but okay, let's just call it a hundred years.
SPEAKER_02:That is so what is their what is their evidence for the evolution? So they like to throw out these words, like, well, they've evolved. So what is their evidence? Have the teeth changed? Has the length of the digestive tract changed? Is the pH of the stomach? Like, what is there because like if you look at these pictures of you know, like the evolution of the horse, if that's still true, I don't know so much over that true, but you know, these horses used to be these little animals with pads on their feet, looking like little foxes, and then they evolved, and you saw the pictures of the body changing. So if this evolution has happened, so what's changed? So, did they talk about what's actually changed in their body that now makes eating cakes, cookies, and donuts acceptable?
SPEAKER_01:Right. So, so here's what here is one of the things that we recently heard live. We heard this from someone's mouth. And it said domestication. This person said domestication has robbed our cats and dogs of their natural defenses against pathogens. So, Dr. Jasick, that is why we are obligated to cook their food and pump them full of vaccines, dewormers, prevent it is because they have no ability to protect themselves after domestication. Now, I will agree that they cannot protect themselves since domestication from pet parents who do this to them. I I I will agree on that, but I how is it that domestication has robbed our dogs and cats of their natural defenses unless it's someone who is feeding them improperly and filling them full of toxins? That I will agree with. That I will agree with.
SPEAKER_02:And again, I ask, what is that based on? What is that based on? Like how how are they like they say this stuff, but there's absolutely nothing to back it off. And up, up, and people believe, oh yeah, like they've lost their their defense. That sounds like a good narrative, but what's it? It's just words. There's nothing. How have they proven that? How have they proven that they've lost that they've lost their defenses because of their being being domestic? That's just a narrative they want people to believe. It's it's based on absolutely nothing. I I watch my cat, he catches squirrels. I'm like, how in the heck is this cat? He catches these big squirrels. I'm like, how the heck is he catching them? I was watching him. We got a little pond here on our property, and he was in the grass there by the pond, and I'm like, what is he stalking? And then I was watching, and the squirrels come down to the pond to drink, and I'm like, uh-huh. He's catching them off guard when they come down for a drink. Well, he breaks to bring his treasures up to our deck. First thing he does is, well, the very first thing he does is he plays with it, he rolls around with the dead squirrel. Thump, thump, thump, you know, because it's like reliving the whole kill. I get I don't know. I don't speak cat. Then he decapitates it. He doesn't, he doesn't like, but evidently doesn't like squirrel heads too much. And then he just starts to slowly, you know, munch on the body, and then um, and then he gets full, so he'll leave it out there. And I was like, well, maybe he'll come back, and then a little hour later he'll come back and he'll munch us. I get this squirrel carcass out there, and I'll I'll leave it out there for a few hours, you know, until until the flies come. Yeah, it's like, okay, the flies are starting to eat your squirrel. If you're not gonna finish it, then you know, because he's not really hungry, he just likes to go, but like, okay, domestic cat, right? Eating in the wild.
SPEAKER_01:He hadn't killed them yet. Oh no, no, and and and and here's the thing. Um, so I was doing some research and I wanted a breakdown of how long, because this is what people are always asking, um, or or they're always saying that they have changed, and what they're talking about is their teeth, their stomach, and their digestion. Okay. How long does it take for those three things to evolve in dogs and cats? And the information that I got back was that you know, the teeth shape, the jaw structure, the digestive physiology takes hundreds of thousands to millions of years, not just a few generations. So domesticated dogs have only been eating processed foods like kibble for less than 100 years. And even if we calculated it on grain-heavy diets, you know, since early agriculture, which would have been eight to ten thousand years, that's still too short, too short of time for any meaningful evolutionary change in the digestive uh anatomy. No way. So they still have that same digestion of a carnivore. Then you look at their teeth and their jaws, and it says, you know, it they're they are built for meat, raw meat. They're sharp, they're pointed. Look at your cat's teeth, Dr. Jason. They are super pointed and they hurt like the dickens if they grab you with their little claws and oh my gosh, even to a plan.
SPEAKER_02:It's like, hey, ouch, that's my finger.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And so their teeth, dogs and cats, are built to slice flesh and crush bone, not grind plant matter. And they were talking about that the dog's temporalis muscles, you know, those are used for crushing bones, they're still very dominant. Um, and they said, while true omnivores, okay, like us and pigs, we we you know, we're like pigs.
SPEAKER_03:Um we have larger jaw muscles.
SPEAKER_01:I know some people that are very much like pigs. So we have these larger jaw muscles for side-to-side grinding. So the this evolution thought, I get the domestication, I get the the the bad information on the side of a pet parent that causes an animal to have to survive on high sugary kibble diets. I get that, and that's why they have this enzyme, right? More than the wolves, they've had to survive, but as you've said, that doesn't mean thrive. Um, you know, they still have the short intestinal tracts, they still have a highly acidic stomach, and they have limited amylase in their saliva, um, and meaning they have a poor starch compared to omnivores. So omnivores have a lot more starch in their mouth. So knowing that, I don't think that I could even possibly get on the same page with our dogs have all of a sudden evolved to eat all this plant matter and um all this kibble. I just just can't go there, Dr. Jason. Me either.
SPEAKER_02:And if you think about how the whole that whole commercial dog food industry started, it was a place to put in industry waste. I mean, waste from other industries, and it still is. It's like a dumping ground. There's oh, we don't know what to do with you know, multi extra multodextrin made from corn. I know, let's just dump it in the dog food. It was a a salvage thing because people were were rationed during World War II, and so they didn't know what to feed there. They were just feeding dog scraps because that's what dogs ate for, you know, millions of years or hundreds of thousands of years. They just ate leftover scraps and then hunted rabbits or whatever they could find. They're just natural scavengers, but then people were rationing their own food to the point that they didn't have enough for their dogs. So they started just making this kibble, and it was supposed to be just a temporary thing just to get the dogs through the war. Well, what did they find? Oh, we got this great place to put all this garbage from other industries, and it's cheap to make, and people are buying it, and people like it because it's convenient. None of it ever started to make dogs healthy. There's never been anything in that industry that was focused on pet health. Now, your vet will tell you there's these prescription diets that are designed for health. No, it's the same crap. They just put a prescription label on it and charge you twice as much for it. And they tell you you can only get it at your vet. That's the only thing, prescription about it. There's never been anything about that industry that's been focused on improving pet health, and it's done nothing but make pets sicker. So, like you said, domestication, yeah, it's lowered their defenses because of crappy diets and all these drugs and vaccines and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I know that some people think, well, animals, dogs, and cats, they've been around for millions of years. Okay, but here is your summary timeline, guys. Uh dogs and cats, teeth shape, it takes one to five million years for that to change. And do you know what? Today, they are still carnivorous. Today, they still don't have molars. So you can't say next year they're they're going to be omnivores, right? Stomach acidity, I got the numbers of that, one to two million years, and their stomach acidity is still very, very high. Their intestinal link, it takes five plus million years, it's still short, it's the carnivore type, and then the enzyme adaptation, five to ten thousand years. So, again, partial starch tolerance in dogs only, not cats. Now, I see a lot of cats that have a massive amount of starch in them, not doing well, not gonna live a great, great life with that. Um, but when you really look at it from a timeline, today your dog, your cat are carnivores, not omnivores. They don't cook their food, they don't eat processed food. Um, and the this the other thing, the the whole bacteria thing, you know. I think that we can look at their stomach acidity, right? And know that they're created for this kind of food. But again, these narratives can come out that are just silly, they're just silly.
SPEAKER_02:And they've been and they've been trying to push this particular narrative for a long time.
SPEAKER_01:A really, really, really long time. So again, if if you want to see a dramatic difference in your dog, and I say that, Dr. Jay-Z, because it is a dramatic difference. If you have a dog that's been on kibble, right, they're on allergy medications, they're on antidepressants, they're on, you know, uh appetite stimulants, all this kind of stuff. Change their diet, change their diet to what they are meant to eat. And I I was walking with a neighbor the other day, and I'd given her some bones, and she said, You know, and this is a burner doodle. Okay, it's not a small dog, it's it's probably a 70-pound dog. She just said, you know, and the reason I gave her these bones was because she said, My dog's tearing up everything, just she wants to chew on something. I said, Well, give her a bone. So she said to me, I just couldn't get, I just I had to throw away the bones. And she said, I just you know, she was chewing them up, and I was just afraid they were gonna splinter and just rip up her insides. I said, Well, okay. I mean, I don't know what to do.
SPEAKER_02:I have nothing to say. I just like it, just like I it just like makes so no sense. I'm trying, I was trying to think like, how would how could you like show that those bones don't actually splinter? Maybe you need to do a video of taking one and like smashing it with a hammer or something, because the only bones that splinter are cooked or dried. That's the way bones splinter. Otherwise, bones are are pliable. They they don't they don't splinter. Like, try to make a raw bone splinter. That's what I was just thinking about. Like, I don't think you could make. I mean, if you like bash it and dogs just chew on it like gradually, they just kind of chew on the edges, you know. But there's this whole, I think the whole thing about bones is like the you know, the cooked chicken that's been in the garbage for three days, and the dog gets into the garbage and they get those dried up bones. Yeah, those are dangerous. So I always say, no, ever, no cooked bones ever. Raw bones are okay. They get down to kind of a small size, take them away so they don't swallow it. And I guess they could possibly choke on that, but they're not gonna splinter. But what can you say? You're not gonna change your mind about that.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I you know, I said, Well, I I don't really see that, but here is my advice if it bothers you, don't do it. I said, Because when a pet parent is afraid, then they have this energy that causes your dog to be uncomfortable, and now you have this uncomfortableness in your life. Um, I I said, I I just encourage you to maybe look at it a little further. I can tell you that our daughter, as a vet, doesn't pull raw bones out of dog's stomach, they pull panties, socks, tampons, diapers, fluffy toys, plastics, right? Never it's never the bones, yeah. Yeah, right. And um uh so anyway, um I I I remember Dr. William Faulkner at one time, and I could probably try to find this video, he had a raw bone in a jar, and he had created sort of the type of acid that would be in the stomach, and he showed how rubbery it was.
SPEAKER_02:Interesting.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, he uh he did that, and um I I remember he used to do the the some really good videos back in the day, and um, but I've never forgotten that. But anyway, it's just it's just these things, you know, that that um we believe just like we believed some of us uh that uh not some of us, we didn't, me and you, but a lot of people believed that that COVID vaccine was going to help them, and they made a decision that probably wasn't in their best health, right? So again, I don't think that pet parents say, hey, I'm gonna do this because this is not gonna be good for my dog. Nobody thinks like that, I hope. Um, but there is a reason that pet parents aren't doing the best for their dogs. And um, like I, you know, that's the that's the thing, Dr. JC, trying to figure that part out, right? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, fear is a very powerful emotion. So as soon as somebody's afraid of something, yeah, they're better off, like you said, just just letting it go because if they're afraid, then they're gonna pass that energy on to their dog, and then you know, so I guess just let the dog continue eating the furniture, which, oh, by the way, probably has all kinds of toxic stuff on it the paints, the stains, the flame retardants, and all that stuff. That drywall is really toxic. You know, if your dog is chewing up your house, he's getting a lot of toxins doing that. Yeah, but go ahead, don't feed the raw bones. Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01:Um, so your talk with the um the uh Weston A price. Weston A price. I was like WAC, I was like, what Weston A price group is coming up. How are you excited to talk to these folks? I mean, these are going to be your allies, they're not going to be people looking at you with their glasses down on their nose. They're gonna be, they're gonna be very much on your page as you're talking about the pet industry and the veterinary industry. What are you hoping that you're going to uh what what's the needle that you're trying to move forward in this talk?
SPEAKER_02:I think I want to make people aware, first of all, of like how really messed up the veterinary profession has become and how so, in part of the talk, I talk about you know how vet students get indoctrinated really to be pawns of the pharmaceutical company and to just sell drugs. And because I do think a lot of people still go into the vet and like, well, the vet told me this was the best thing. I was afraid, afraid. I hear that afraid to not do that lepto shot, you know, like don't make decisions when you're afraid. If you're doing it because you're afraid, stop and think. Um, but I'm kind of going into how vets get so indoctrinated so that they believe this is in the best interest of their patients. And it's really just a big selling game. So I'd like to wake people up to that because I think a lot of people don't realize that veterinary medicine is the same as human medicine. So at this conference, these folks are awake to what's going on on the human side, the majority of them, a lot of there's a lot of other. People speaking that have been speaking out against the human medical system for a good number of years. So I think they're aware of that. So to make them aware of that, but then to also empower people, I think a lot of the issue is people don't feel empowered to take their pets' health into their own hands and get educated and learn how to treat simple things at home and make simple assessments. So like they want somebody else to tell them what to do. And I think people have been trained, I think been trained, have been like trained by the industry that it is the veterinarian that creates the healthy animal. So when I'm my main goal is to change people's mindset that they are the ones that should be in control of their pets' healthcare decisions. Because right now, I think the big issue is people are outsourcing it because they've been trained by the industry to do that. How do you want, how do you, you know, people get a new puppy or kitten? What do you do? You run it into the vet and get the short first set of shots. I mean, people have been trained to do that for eons. People need to take a step back and say, no, you know how to take care of a healthy puppy or kitten. You keep them home, you feed them a good food, you know, you know how to take care of them. You don't need to take them to the vet. Oxens and and people need to change, they need to snap out of it, Dee Dee. That's right. They need to snap out of it and take control of their of their pet's health and not go running to the vet and get out of this mindset that that health is created, that healthy animals are created by the veterinarian. That's what people have been led to believe. And they're not. The only real use, so the uses of veterinarians are so for pets that have already been damaged in the system, a good holistic vet that can offer good holistic healing practices can help. Aside from that, if you're starting with a good healthy program with like a puppy or kitten, or you're gonna be talking a little bit about farm animals and stuff because some of these folks are homesteaders and all that, the only other need for a vet is emergency care, true emergencies, broken leg, stitches, bleeding, you know, true emergencies, blockages, panties eaten by a dog, you know, that sort of thing. Intestinal blockages, you know, things like that. But if if if you start with a good healthy program, you don't need the vet to have a healthy pet. You really don't. You really don't. And that's why I'm that's what I'm really and and I'm encouraging people to get educated because I think people have become afraid to do that. And but who knows animals best? Their guardian does. They know everything about them, they know their routine, they know their behaviors, and they instinctively probably know what their pet needs, but they get afraid, and so they go run into the vet and they believe what the vet says. But health is not created, that's the bottom line. Kind of my big punchline is like health is natural. Nobody creates health, the vets don't create health, health is natural, you just need to support the body, and voila, it's so simple, it's so incredibly simple that health is not created by pharmaceuticals, it's the natural state of the body. So if everybody could just start embracing that, our animals would be so much healthier. But it's hard to not easy to get there.
SPEAKER_01:Um it's so funny because I mean, don't you think that most people today, Dr. Jasick, would agree that if you are uh feeling fatigued, if you uh have achy joints, if you have you know no motivation to do anything, that with without a doctor telling you this, don't you think that most people would say, let me look at my diet? Don't I mean I really do uh think that human beings would say now whether they change it or not, I don't know. But most human beings would look at their diet and say, Man, I eat a ton of sugar in the morning and then I'll double down and eat some chicken fried steak, uh, you know, smothered in gravy mashed potatoes every night, or I just don't eat well, right? Never exercise. Um and and they they wouldn't say uh I hope I need to go to the doctor so that they can fix the fact that I just don't recognize that I'm eating crappy food. I mean, what what would a would and and I say that because I I have a family member right now who um you know is is is saying I'm fatigued, I'm this, I'm that. Um and yet there's a lot of soda, there's a lot of ice cream, there's there's just so much sugar in the diet, right? And um, and this person's in their in their late 70s, and you know, they're worried that they're gonna have a heart attack like their father did. And it's like okay, but uh do you not recognize that your diet, your diet, how how does your body get any kind of good vitamins and minerals or nourishment if if you're feeding it crap day in and day out? So I would think that most human beings would recognize that. Again, they may not do anything about it, but they gotta recognize it. I think so. I think people know.
SPEAKER_02:I think people know if they're really honest with themselves, I think they know.
SPEAKER_01:So you would think that you would take this same reasoning and say, my dog's not doing well. My dog's poops are bad, his breath stinks, teeth are gross, smells, sheds a lot, has achy joints. But you want to take him to the vet and say, Hey, there's something wrong with my dog? Yeah, he's feeding, you're feeding him crap, right?
SPEAKER_02:But no, but the average vet isn't gonna say that. They're gonna say, Oh, yeah, what you're feeding is fine. Just take some brimadil for the pain, and you know, people that put on weight and are talking, oh, just take some osempic, and then that'll help you, you know, lose weight. You can just keep eating what you want. So I some people I have a family member like this. He would, my brother would not want to change his lifestyle, he'd rather just go to the doctor, take another drug. He had like something with his esophagus or something. And the doctor is like eating too much sugar and too much alcohol, you know, and he's like, not gonna give it up. He actually went in and had surgery to kind of redirect something, something was like not shaped right or something. I don't remember exactly, or maybe he had like a hiatal hernia, but the doctor told him if he corrected his diet, it would be less inflamed in there and it wouldn't bother him and he could live with it. Like, nope, I'd rather have surgery than change my diet. So I think even if people know, they don't always, and some people know for their pets, and they still don't want to. I talk to people all the time, like they feed raw for for a while, and then for whatever reason, they get off of it. And you know, I don't know like why that they do it once because they know it's healthier, and then they go back to feeding a different way, um, a way that's not good for their pets. And you know they're seeing changes in their pets. So yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's it's hard for me to understand because I've always made my health a priority, and maybe I'm just unique in that. But for me, having my health and having energy and being active so I can go do what I want to do and I and I feel good and I sleep well most of the time. Um there are those, there are those nights, but um, but I work at it. And and for me, that's the most important thing for me. And I don't care if people tell me I'm kooky because of what I eat or whatever, but I feel good. I'm not out, you know, limping around, gimping around, walking with my walker, you know, I can still get out and run and hike and do all this stuff because I take care of my health, and that's that's a priority. So to know, and same for my animals, to know what you could be doing better and not do it, I I don't get it. I mean, I really that just baffles me. Just baffles me.
SPEAKER_01:I always I always wonder, you know, what what I can say better, more effectively, um to to um uh to to warn people, to to help people that I know love, love, love their pets, right? They're like their children, and yet they're they're just uh in a uh not they're in a compromised, um uh healthy state. But it's a fine line, it's a fine line to try to say, hey, you know, your dog's fat and it's limping around and it stinks. You know what I'm saying? And and that's just the external stuff. Um, so anyway, I I never know what would be what would be the phrase, what would be the phrase that would help snap people out of it, Dr. Jasak?
SPEAKER_02:What would it be? Yeah, I don't know. I wish I knew too. I wish I knew too, because some people that's got their ideas in their head or there's some propaganda they're believing. And um, I think sometimes people just have to have a have a wake-up call, you know, see have their pet really seriously ill or be really afraid, like that their pet's gonna die, and then see a diet change, turn them around. I think a lot of people have that wake-up call for themselves before they'll make changes, just because it's convenient to eat, you know, fast food and junk and and stuff like that. So I don't know. I I wish I knew, but I for my own sanity, I've just had to get to the point where all I can do is give people the information based on my experience. And people can take the information and do with it, um, do with it what they please, but it's not like we're doing this because we want to kill pets with raw food, right? Wouldn't be a good business model for you.
SPEAKER_01:No, and and you know, I I know a lot of the folks that are going to be at the West and A Price um talk with with you, and a lot of those people obviously talk a lot about food to their clients and to their people, and so hopefully they are also talking about pet health and and maybe they will after they hear you, right? That they will also talk about pet health somewhere in the conversation with their clients. I think that would be good.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm hoping, you know, too, that hearing it coming from a veterinarian that's been practicing for nearly 40 years and I'm sharing my experience. Like, look, our pets are getting sicker, sicker and sicker. Cancer rates are going up. You know, we have to do something different. And sharing my experiences as a practicing veterinarian will have some impact. And maybe I can get out on, you know, it'd be cool if I got other invites to get into these other arenas and get in front of other, like maybe not your typical pet audiences, because the people you know listening to us here are probably already been introduced to raw food and and maybe some of these other audiences where people are aware of this stuff for themselves and for humans, but they never really thought about it for their pets. So maybe I just hoping to get the word out. I mean, I guess is the bottom line about what's really going on in the veterinary profession, and that it's the same as the human human medicine. And um, people really need to wake up and advocate for their pets.
SPEAKER_01:And maybe there'll be somebody that's a strong, has a strong voice, right? Uh uh, even a stronger voice. You have a strong voice. But I mean, you know, like RFK, right? He's out there trying to change some things, right? And and and shedding some light on some things that are causing harm in in our food and in our medications. We have to have somebody like that too, Dr. Josie. That will come.
SPEAKER_02:With a big, ginormous audience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That says, Let's invite him on the podcast. Yeah, right. Let's do hey or he's just the he's just the HHS secretary, he got spare time, right?
SPEAKER_01:And I'm like, you know what? Um, it will be like that, you know, like that COVID thing. They're like, What? I've been doing something that might be harmful to my pets. Can you imagine? I I can't imagine the pushback, right? You think about how big that industry is, but he's doing it now. And and uh I I don't know. I I have no idea how this world is put together. All I know is that uh all the information that we were trying to get out there was shut down, right? About COVID. All that information, um, all the things that could help and did help were not available. So when you really get your mind around that, think about that. Information, well, first of all, okay, information's coming out. You can't talk about the information. If you talk about the information that is good, you are going to be shut down. You can't give uh real true um um um informed consent because then you could go to prison. And then the medications that could help you are suddenly unavailable. Now, if that doesn't sound crazy today and frightening, I don't know what does, but that's exactly what happened, Dr. JC. And we were all just, I mean, not we a lot of people were just going along with it, going, yeah, this is great, this is the way it should be. Shut those people down. You know, those people should be locked behind bars because they didn't take it.
SPEAKER_02:We were we were crazy criticized. We were killing people, we were the grandma killers.
SPEAKER_01:So I yeah, so it's not as if the pet food industry would be, in my opinion, any different. Um, and you see that with the cooked foods, right? Your farmer's dogs, all these kind of foods that are coming on the market that are trying to look like they are raw, and in fact, they are not. All right. So, anyway, that's my rant for today. But I'm excited about your talk, and I hope that we get a chance to see it. Maybe WestNA Price is gonna put it up on their site. They're recording them.
SPEAKER_02:They're recording them. Yeah, I I don't know how widely available they'll be or whatever, but they are recording them. So I'll I'll have more details to come.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. All right, everybody. Well, listen, you can work with a true holistic vet. If you want to keep your pet healthy, you're gonna need to have a holistic veterinarian to guide you to help you understand that you do have the power to keep your pet healthy. You've got somebody in the medical field that can stand behind you and support you. And who is that? That's gonna be Dr. Judy Jasik and her team. You can find them at ahet.com, ah vet.com, and get your dog on a species appropriate diet, right? They have not evolved, they haven't evolved to eat kibble, they're not going to evolve to eat kibble, they're gonna keep getting sicker if you feed them kibble. Okay, so get them on a species appropriate diet. We'll help you, we'll ship it to you, we'll deliver it to your door if you're here in the Denver area. But get over to raw dogfoodandcompany.com, where your pet's health is our business and what Dr. Jasick or friends don't let friends feed kibble, y'all. That's right. We'll see you soon, everybody. Bye bye. Bye.
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