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The Raw Dog Food Truth
Pets with allergies, skin issues gut issues, and behavior issues can live better lives by eating a species-appropriate diet. Find out the dangers of kibble and cooked foods. Your Pet's Health Is Our Business "Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble"
The Raw Dog Food Truth
The Grain-Free Diet Controversy: Exposing the DCM Myth
Ever wondered if what you're feeding your pet is actually good for them? The truth about commercial pet food is more disturbing than most pet parents realize.
When the FDA issued warnings linking grain-free diets to canine heart disease (DCM), it sent shockwaves through the pet community. But what if that entire controversy was manufactured? A bombshell revelation from this episode exposes how pet food giant Hills conducted an 18-month study that found absolutely no connection between grain-free foods and heart problems—yet kept these findings hidden for years while publicly claiming the opposite. This manipulation of science has real consequences for our pets' health and our wallets.
The podcast hosts don't hold back, sharing personal stories of their awakening to pet food truth. "I rounded up all my dogs and I sat them down in the living room and I apologized to them," one host confesses after learning what commercial pet food really contains. For many, watching documentaries like "Pet Fooled" becomes a turning point that makes continuing with conventional feeding impossible.
For cat owners, the conversation takes an urgent turn when discussing the epidemic of feline kidney disease. Cats evolved to get moisture from prey, not water bowls. When fed dry kibble, they exist in a constant state of dehydration—setting them up for serious health problems. Similarly, the essential nutrient taurine, critical for heart health, comes from meat (particularly heart muscle), not from the grains many vets bizarrely recommend.
The transformation pets experience on species-appropriate diets speaks volumes: calmer behavior, improved focus, healthier skin and coat, better dental health, and more vibrant energy. Even professional trainers are noticing the difference in trainability when dogs eat real food instead of processed carbohydrates and synthetic nutrients.
Ready to see these changes in your own pet? Start with small steps toward a species-appropriate diet. Your pet's body is designed for real food—not processed kibble with ingredients being removed from human foods due to safety concerns. Your companion deserves better, and their improved health will be the proof.
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Oh snap. Well, hello Raw Feeders. I'm Deedee Merson-Moffitt. I'm CEO of Raw Dog Food Company, where your pet's health is our business and we're friends. Like my friend, Brian, our nutritionist extraordinaire, he didn't let friends feed kibble. Although I'm sure, Brian, when you talk to people because you do these consoles that people are still trying to give their dogs kibble because they think it's good for them. I mean, look, I don't think that any pet parent I bet you would agree with me no pet parents trying to kill their dog, they just do it. They do it unknowingly.
Speaker 2:I mean they're not trying well, yeah, I mean, we were all there at some point you know, so, um, it's just, uh, you know it's.
Speaker 2:It's knowing better and then doing better. It's like you know, once you know, um, you know you got to make some changes. I was just talking with a customer today who she brought up Pet Fool and that was her turning point, and that was also my turning point. That was, I watched that documentary and I knew that I had to make some changes. I was sick to my stomach after watching that documentary and I know when talks about that anymore.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean it's, yeah, it's, yeah, it's pretty old, I mean it's. I know there was some talk of doing a followup. The same guy who did the the original was going to do was going to do a followup, but I don't know, I don't know where that's at or what happened to it, but it's still. I mean it's still relevant. You know, and I, I encourage pet parents to watch it, but I, I will tell them that if they're going to watch it, they better be prepared to make some changes, because I don't think you can watch, I don't think you can get that kind of information and then continue to do what you're doing. Because, like I said, it was, it was mind blowing to me and I I felt that I literally no joke. I rounded up all my dogs and I sat them down in the living room and I apologized to them.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2:I'm so sorry you guys, I'm so sorry I looked them in the eye and I was like I had no idea, I didn't know that I was doing that to you guys.
Speaker 1:I think there may be more apologies coming down the pike towards people. I was, uh, you know this, this um, I, I, I don't know if Bobby Kennedy is ever going to get over to the point of looking at you know, the, the pharmaceuticals that go into dogs. I certainly would hope so. Now I will tell you this that Dr Jasek will be speaking for the Weston A Price Institute coming up in October and you know there are a bunch of kind of heavy hitters there and and she will be talking about vaccines, right. So vaccines is coming to the forefront, whatever side you're going to line up on, because I still hear people saying, oh, vaccines save lives. But I don't know, did I send you? There was a, there was a video where a vet was actually in court trying to stand up for the pets and talking about, you know, these vaccines that he's saying that are really damaging to them. So I'm hoping that that comes out. You know, another thing that we wanted to talk about today is a little update on the Hills, the Keto Pet Hills lawsuit.
Speaker 1:Now, I was just I was reading some stuff on Reddit that people were. They were like this is such BS. You know, these boutique pet food places are just mad because now they've been found out that their food causes DCM. I was like, oh my gosh, do people just love to show their stupidity when they open their mouth like that? I mean, yeah, so anyway, what? What you know, what came out from the Freedom of Information Act if these people would ever look any further is that it was. It was all slanted. It was never a real investigation. They were never really worried that dogs had DCM and, and some dogs may have dilated cardiomyopathy, but it's certainly not from a lack of grains in their diet.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I mean, I think that I think it was a real investigation. I think the FDA was concerned, but the reason that they were concerned was because they were getting cherry picked data. You know every, you know every case of a dog that was diagnosed with DCM if they were eating something other than a Hills, a Purina or a Mars product. That information was forwarded to the FDA. And so I mean, what was the FDA supposed to do? When they were sitting there and they're like, okay, we've got you know, I don't know how many cases in front of us, but a hundred percent of them all point to grain-free food. I mean, you know, they, they made the obvious conclusion that there must be some correlation, you know, and that was, you know, that was that's the crux of the um, of the lawsuit, because you know, you're you're manipulating data and you're lying to the government, um, for the purposes of, uh, making money, um, you know which is? It's the very definition of fraud and uh. And so, you know, earlier this year, when I heard that the lawsuit had been dismissed, um, I was very surprised, uh, because the evidence appeared to be pretty damning. Because the evidence appeared to be pretty damning at least enough to you know, warrant a trial and an investigation out that it technically it was not dismissed.
Speaker 2:Um the the court made a preliminary ruling um which I guess did dismiss the lawsuit. It closed it Um but um. But all it did was it moved it just to the appellate. It was immediately appealed because the decision that was made by the court was that if you could not prove that grain-free diets did not cause DCM, then it was okay for Hills to claim that it did. How's that work Exactly? That's why it immediately went into an appellate court, because that goes against, you know, according to Daniel from Keto Pet, that goes against every ruling that's ever been handed down in the history of this country.
Speaker 2:You know, I think it's kind of like you know, didi, if you can't prove to me that you didn't murder somebody, then I can say that you did and you know and you can face all the consequences that come with that accusation. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense. So the lawsuit's back in the appellate court and Daniel expects it's probably going to have to be settled by the Supreme Court. I don't know if that's the federal Supreme Court or the state Supreme Court, but he's in um. You know he's in it for the long haul. He called it a generational case, so I don't know if that's indicative of how long it's going to take to to actually get some sort of resolution. But uh, you know, you know, thank goodness, you know, you know, hats off to him for, you know, fighting and keeping up this fight Because I think it's important I mean, you know, regardless of whether he wins or loses, it's important to send a message that you know your bullying is not going to be tolerated.
Speaker 1:Well, it's been tolerated for a very, very, very long time. And, um, you know, I don't think the bullying is going away, brian, I just don't, you know. And um, you know what's crazy to me? I don't know if you saw this on the news. You know what's crazy to me? I don't know if you saw this on the news.
Speaker 1:They're talking about all of these different ingredients that are being pulled out of food because they're not good for us, and I'm like it was on the news. There was like a list like all these companies are getting on board. We're getting rid of dye, we're getting rid of this. We're getting rid of that on board. We're getting rid of dye. We're getting rid of this. We're getting rid of that we're. So what they're saying is yeah, we've been putting crap in your food, stuff that we know is not really good for you. Oh, but now we're gonna pull it out because we want to get on the make america healthy, make America Healthy Again bandwagon. And I'm like you big bunch of losers. You knew that this stuff was not good for us, you knew it was toxic, you knew it was trash, but you put it in there anyway. And so now we're supposed to give you kudos because you're taking it out. I'm.
Speaker 2:I'm Well one of those ingredients. You know there. You know there's, there's people that make a lot of money from those ingredients. Yeah, they're not just going to fold up and say, oh, we don't need to be paid for this stuff anymore, that stuff's going to go in pet food. You know, I mean, that's that's kind of been the.
Speaker 2:The history of pet food anyways is, you know, if it can't be used anywhere else, give it to the pet food industry, because they'll just throw it in the grinder and grind it up with the rest of the crap and and feed it to the pets. You know, and you know, eventually the pet parents will, you know, they'll raise a, they'll raise a ruckus and then, you know, maybe we'll get rid of it. You know from the pet industry as well. But that'll be five, 10, 15 years down the road, so plenty of time to make some money and and then we'll just, we'll deal with it when we have to. But I think that you know, I don't think that I'll be here when you know it finally, you know, comes to roost. But I think that I think eventually people will get smart.
Speaker 2:I just don't think the story can hold up Just like what we talked about last week and the whole idea that domestication has changed dogs' biology. And you know they, you know wolves thrive off of meat and bones, but not our dogs because of domestication. I mean that doesn't make any sense, you know, that's just not how things work and you know things like that can last for a while. But people eventually, you know, they eventually say that this doesn't make any sense. You know, and people are going to get to the point where I, some people already are. But you know, think about how many people do everything that their vet says and their dog never gets better, you know, probably gets worse passes away. You know, I mean all of those things. I mean at some point people are going to be like okay, I did everything you said that I was supposed to do and none of it worked. I'm going to do something different with the next dog. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I, I just have to. I just, I just have to. I want to understand why people think that their dogs need rice, oats, lentils, um, you know the beans, the those sort of things right. Why do they need, um, wheat, rice or corn? Why do they need wheat, rice or corn? What in the wild To what Eat crap? I mean, what is? Why would your and you know what? They just can't let go of this. My dog eats a bland diet chicken and rice thing. I'm like you could feed him chicken, but let's get rid of the rice, okay, let's get rid of the. Why do we feed rice? We don't need that, we don't need it. And so I just can't understand why.
Speaker 1:You know you would feed even a grain, grains or even grain-free. Oh, so grain-free kibble, okay, let's. Oh. So grain free kibble, okay, let's talk about grain free kibble. You know what it's got in it Low quality starches, green peas, potatoes, sweet potatoes you know all that stuff holds the kibbles together, has those low quality proteins like soy peas, lentils, beans you know they're high in starch.
Speaker 1:Proteins like soy peas, lentils, beans you know they're high in starch. And they add calories. Guys with that, any value? Okay, no value add there. They also have a lot of glyphosates, okay, and so that that's. You know, something that you don't want. Also, phytic acid, which is found in high levels in legumes, lentil, peas, potatoes, beets. Those are grain-free foods. So even if it says grain-free and it's a kibble, it's still crap most of the time because of the things I said the phytic acid, the low quality proteins, the starches that are in there, that do nothing for your dogs.
Speaker 1:And here's the thing a true raw diet, guys, a true raw diet, a pure raw diet. Meat, bones, organ and fat, meat, bones, organ and fat. Maybe it's duck, turkey, chicken, beef pork I don't know Brent. So I was one of my friends out here. They said look, chicken beef pork. I don't know Brent. So I was one of my friends out here. They said, look, I went to your website and I was so confused. You have so many products, and we do. We have a ton of products. We are the, we are the Mexican restaurant menu of dog food, of grain-free, high-value, high-protein food. But here, just start with two, start with a turkey and a beef. You know, just start there, it's super easy, and then you can play with that as you go.
Speaker 1:But again, you know the debate is grain bad for dogs? Is DCM the issue? Well, DCM was just something that they had to throw out there, um. So, anyway, keto pets doing this, doing this lawsuit. Good for him, good for daniel gosh I hope it just doesn't break him, um, but anyway, uh, we gotta, we gotta, keep fighting the fight. Got to keep fighting the fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we do, and you know, there was something very significant that came out of the lawsuit and I don't know if, well, they haven't really had a discovery part of the lawsuit, but Daniel dug up a study and this study was conducted between December of 2019 and August of 2021. And, uh, and those dates are very significant. Um, the the study involved 60 dogs over 18 months, um, which is you know, I think that makes it a pretty significant study. Some people will look at 60 dogs and say, well, that's not very many, which it's not, but it's better than the eight dogs that make up an AFCO food trial, and those food trials they bless. All of the food that everybody feeds their dogs is complete and balanced for all life stages. Um, so, um, so I think 60 dogs is you know, it's. It's definitely better than most studies, but the 18 months is significant right, because most studies don't go that long.
Speaker 2:And the purpose of the study was to determine the effect of diet on dilated cardiomyopathy, aka DCM. Specifically, the study was to establish a link between grain-free pet foods and DCM. At the study's conclusion, it was found that there were no changes in cardiac function with a grain-free diet or a grain-inclusive diet, and taurine status was unaffected by diet. So the goal of the study was to prove that grain free diets cause DCM. The study failed to prove that.
Speaker 2:So what happened to the study? It just didn't get published. So what happened to the study? It just didn't get published, and that is. You know, that's something that pet parents should really be aware of.
Speaker 2:You know that sort of manipulation of science, you know everybody's like. Show me the study. Studies are important. Study, this study, that it's like. You know. You do realize that if they don't like the outcome of a study, nobody says they have to publish it and they can just go back and redo it, change the parameters, get the results they want, and then they publish it. Parameters get the results they want and then they publish it.
Speaker 2:So so this one, you know, didn't get published, got completed in 2021. Didn't get published until this past June, in 2025. The study got published in the Journal of Animal Medicine online only, so it wasn't put into the journals that get sent to the vets or anything like that. It was just a pretty obscure online thing up in Canada and Daniel's reasoning on why it was released was because and the study was conducted by none other than Purina I'm not Purina Hills and earlier, when I told you the dates December 2019 to August of 2021, what was going on right in between those dates? What was going on right in between those dates? Lisa Freeman was funneling tainted data to the FDA, trying to establish a link between grain-free diets and DCM.
Speaker 1:Oh, Lisa Freeman and wait a minute, brian.
Speaker 2:What was the award that?
Speaker 1:Dr Freeman got after. She did all of this kind of underhanded stuff. It was a word like superior.
Speaker 2:I can't remember the exact name of it, but it was something in integrity and science.
Speaker 1:Yes, I was like oh my goodness, integrity up my sphincter. Come on, lisa Freeman, you big fat liar.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, so, while she is, and her relationship with Hills has been well documented, and she may not be a direct employee of Hills, but she is influenced by them and and she's definitely benefited from, you know, whether it's, you know, funding research or facilities there at Tufts university, I mean. But but yeah, yeah, she, you know she's funneling bad data to the fda and meanwhile hills is conducting the study and the study comes out and says you know, exactly opposite of what they're telling the fda. Um, so that leads one to ask you, why on earth would they let this study get published in 2025? Right, why would they? The lawyers would have found it and they would have presented it to the court, and it would have looked worse coming up in court than being out there now, and so that's why they released it. If this lawsuit wasn't going on, they would have never published that study. They would have just left it out there.
Speaker 1:Do you think that they're even a smidge concerned about this lawsuit? I mean, it's not as if it's on front page of the news, right, and they've got billions and billions of dollars. Most pet parents aren't going to hear about it. It just, it, just. It's incredible. It really is incredible.
Speaker 1:But I think it does speak to Brian, what we've been saying for a very long time that you don't have to have a study actually to see with your own eyes that kibble or cooked food is not ever going to bring the results, never going to bring the receipts of superior health that you're looking for in your pets. Why? Because it's not species appropriate. It's not what they were created to eat. And this whole thing that they've evolved to eat crap, I just have. We evolved to eat crap. Who believes that? Raise their hand. It's better for us. There are less, you know, there's not as much inflammation, there's not as many allergies when we eat processed foods Raise your hand, come on. As many allergies when we eat processed foods. Raise your hand, come on.
Speaker 1:But we can tell ourselves a whole different story in the pet world and I contend, brian, it's because people want convenience, and I'll tell you why I say this. So I was reading some of this information on Reddit and three months ago here was a question that was asked I'm looking for a healthy, dry food for a cat with heart disease food for a cat with heart disease. I'm looking for a healthy, dry food for cat with heart disease. This cat has heart murmurs and they said that this cat probably has DCM and they've been doing some research. It says in the taurine and cat food is what's important for their heart. But here's what they say it can be found in grains, which is why the vet recommended it.
Speaker 1:Ok, just do a search, folks, can we, can we do a search that ask is there taurine in grains? And it says no, no, grains do not there taurine in grains? And it says no, no, grains do not contain taurine. Taurine is an amino acid found primarily in animal products like meat, fish and dairy, and it may be true that dogs not cats, guys, dogs can synthesize some, a little, a pinch, a smidge of taurine from this combination of cysteine and methionine which is found in plants. Grains themselves do not provide taurine. So if we got a cat bram with the heart problem, uh, we're not gonna feed them dry food. Okay, last time I saw the mice and birds and squirrels and snakes. They're not kibble based.
Speaker 2:And snakes. They're not kibble-based. Yeah, and I mean and for cats I mean dry food. You know, I mean we don't want to be feeding our dogs dry kibble, but they're going to last a lot longer on that than a cat is. And you know, dry kibble for a cat is a death sentence because they won't drink. Anybody who's ever had a cat tell me how many times do you go to the water bowl and be like, oh wow, that's empty, I better fill it up, right? I mean, you're constantly you're going to their water bowl and you're like, well, I better dump that out and put some fresh water in there. It's been sitting there for a couple of days. I mean, they just they won't drink.
Speaker 2:They instinctually they get their moisture from their food. That's what they're. You know, that's what they're looking for. Somebody once told me that if you observed big cats in the wild, that you would never see them at a river or a stream or a lake drinking water. It just doesn't happen. They, they get all of their hydration from their food. You know which. You know cats like that. They're going to be, they're going to be getting the blood, which is that's what they're going to be using for the hydration. But but yeah, we've got to. You've got to give your cat food with moisture Because otherwise, you know they're, they're in a constant state of dehydration and and you know, coincidentally, how many. You know what's? The number one issue with cats in this country is kidney disease. You know, everybody has a cat that's got kidney problems. Well, yeah, because they're in a constant state of dehydration from their food.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing Cats absolutely need taurine, um, and it that taurine is an amino acid and they cannot get it from their bodies. They have to have it in their diet, um, and if they don't, guys, if they don't, they're gonna have problems with their heart, it's going to cause heart disease. I'm sure that cats probably have a bigger prevalence of DCM than any dog, right? So DCM is a condition where the heart muscle weakens and enlarge it, and then it enlarge, it enlarges Goodness, I can't say that word. Also, blindness.
Speaker 1:Tarring is crucial for the health of the cells in the retina. They can have reproductive problems, weakened immune system, digestive issues. How many cats do you know that? Just go blah, blah, blah. They're constantly sick. I actually had a physical therapist that oh God bless her. I mean, both of her cats had these problems and I just said it is their food. And she kept taking them to the vet and they kept putting them on hydrolyzed protein and all of this kind of stuff and I said it is their food, it's your food, take them off the dry food, put them on a raw based diet. But I don't know that people actually will do it and they just kept paying out the wazoo and I don't think these cats got very well, I don't think they healed.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, it's critical for cats and you know, and I get it. I mean cats are notoriously difficult to you know, once you fed them kibble. Difficult to you know, once you fed them kibble, getting them off of that is, you know, it's like a drug addict, a person addicted to drugs, like trying to break that is very, very difficult. You know they're. You know cats are imprint eaters and so whatever they're fed first, that's what they're going to look at as food. So you're going to have a heck of a time transition to them. But you got to get them off of the dry food, something with some moisture in it and and it's gotta be. You know we talk about species appropriate for dogs all the time. It's. You know, for cats it's even more critical.
Speaker 1:You know the omnivore, carnivore you know, you know the whole um the, the omnivore carnivore.
Speaker 2:You know argument and debate that goes on in dogs, you know. Luckily, for the most part most people understand that cats are true carnivores. Um, obligate carnivores. Um, you know they have to have meat, bones and organs.
Speaker 1:And I'm not sure why you think that those really really pointy, very sharp, sharp teeth can't break those bones. I'm like, yeah, they're like little nails, little pins and needles. I mean cats. I mean, come on, guys, they can, they can really rip, shred and tear, really really rip shred and needles. I mean cats. I mean, come on, guys, they can, they can really rip, shred and tear, really really rip shred and tear.
Speaker 1:And you know there's such confusion, you know, because we, we don't say raw dog food and company, I mean raw dog food and cat company. Um, but, but it's, it's real simple, you know, and it's super simple. Going back to Ian Billinghurst, dr Ian Billinghurst, making it simple for cats, and I would even contend let me know what you think about this, brian, but I would even contend that our HVMs okay, even the ones with the veggies that we have in them is so low that it probably would not bother the cats, but we have enough products that you don't have to feed the ones with the veggies. Okay, and they're actually not called HVMs anymore, they're called recipes, right, recipes, Yep, yeah. And so what do you think about that comment? Do you think that a cat could? Because it's like seven percent, yeah and it's not even all veggies.
Speaker 1:It's just not that much I mean, I mean cats have.
Speaker 2:Cats have zero need for, you know, carbohydrates, um, but you know, just like dogs, they can, they can get some of the same benefits from the, the fiber aspect and, um, you know, especially like you know, fermented veggies and things like that, um, they, they can get the same benefits. So, um, yeah, if you're, I tell people all the time, if your cat will eat the recipes, then have at it. Um, but if they don't want to eat the recipes, it's not the food, it's probably the veggies. And you know, give them, you know, give them one of the mixes and see how that goes, because, um, you know, while they can have some fruits and veggies and it's not going to hurt them, um, they may not prefer them and and if they don't, you know, if they don't like it, that's like the, you know. The same goes for the tripe blends. You know, dogs love the tripe because the stinkier the better. Um, you know, something stinks, a cat's not going to go near it. So, like the trite blends, I mean, I have heard of some cats that like trite, but for the most part they're probably not going to like those, you know. So, you know, if all you have is the recipe. You know, if that's what you're feeding your dog and you want to try it with your cat, yeah, give it a try, see if they eat it, but if they don't, then maybe try one that doesn't.
Speaker 2:And Dr Billinghurst, he's talked about fruits and veggies for cats and he's all for it.
Speaker 2:Well, look, you know he's big on the fermented veggies nowadays and so you know he thinks there's benefit for you know, for for everybody, with with a little bit of fermented veggies and things like that. So, but but yeah, if customers are looking, you know if they're going to our website and they're looking for you know, is this okay for my cat or something good for my cat? You know, I always tell people look at the mixes, because they don't have the fruits and veggies and they all have added heart, which is going to give them just that much more tawny. You know heart is. You know there's taurine and meat and fish and all those things, but it's highest in the heart and so those mixes are going to make it real easy because they've all got an extra 5%, you know, heart ground up in there. So those are the best ones for the cats and you know all except maybe the beef and tripe uh mix. That's probably the only one that I wouldn't do with the cats.
Speaker 1:You know I always think all right if a cat has been on dry food and they've been taking in all of those carbs and all of that sugar. You know, 7% of real food of a you know little little plant food is probably not going to, is not going to bug them. But I like what you said. If the cats cause, they're very discerning, right, and it's texture to them as well. But we can't starve out of cats. We want to make sure that we find them what they like.
Speaker 1:But guys, listen, if you know people that have their cats on dry food, that is not going to be good. That is not the way you want to go. Right, that is like me saying, yeah, it is just perfectly fine for you to sit there every single night and eat a bag of Oreo cookies and you're not going to have any repercussions from it. You know there's all types of repercussions from all the synthetic crap that's in there. It's in the kibble, right, it's in dry kibble, it's in dry cookies and your cat will end up with some problems. So if you love your cat, you know, get them on a raw diet. Okay, get all the crap out of it. Get them a high moisture food, the raw diet, it is species appropriate.
Speaker 1:We are so brainwashed in this kibble crap. It just drives me insane, drives me insane. But you know, we're just doing what we can. But I got to tell you we have barely scratched the surface, barely scratched the surface. Somebody stopped me today because they see our truck, you know, and they're like, well, I've been thinking, I've been thinking that I'd get my dogs on it, but it's so expensive. I said, well, what kind of dogs do you have? Well, we have these little five pound to five pound dogs. And I was like, okay, it is not, it's not. I mean, I don't know what you're paying, but it is not expensive for little dogs. Now, brian, you got four big dogs, you know, and so that can cost some money, but still I just I talked to a lady today that's feeding a 320-pound mastiff raw Nice 320-pound, mast 320.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute. 320 pounds.
Speaker 2:She showed me a picture I mean, that wasn't like 320 pounds of you know, that wasn't like 120 extra pounds or anything.
Speaker 1:How big was this mastiff? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Huge, you know, but she's like you know, know, she's like he's nine years old and he's never been healthier and um, you know, and you know, and a dog that big, I mean you know, I don't know, you know, I don't know what the life expectancy is, but I know, I mean, you know, nine years old for a dog that big has got to be good. But but I was like, you know, it's like bless your heart for you know, I mean making that happen. I mean that can't be easy, you know, I mean I don't even know.
Speaker 1:That's six pounds, almost almost seven pounds a day. Six and a half pounds a day. So times 30, that that 100, almost 200 pounds, almost 200 pounds a month yeah I mean bless her my four, my four dogs is almost.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you put their weights collectively together it's almost 300 pounds. So I mean I, I guess I'm kind of right there with her, but I'm spreading that out over. I mean, if you put their weights collectively together it's almost 300 pounds. So I mean I, I guess I'm kind of right there with her, but I'm spreading that out over four dogs. Yeah, I guess that it makes it, makes me feel better, I think. But but yeah, you know, I, you know the first thing I thought when, when you know she told me that was like you know, I thought about like the five pound dog people and I'm like you know, she told me that was like you know, I thought about like the five pound dog people and I'm like, come on, you know, this lady is feeding a 320 pound dog raw. You can feed your five pound, you know, yorkie, you know raw. You know we're, you know we're talking. You know what do you? What do you need?
Speaker 1:You know four pounds a month not much you know, come on I think my mom's five pound snorky. Um, I think a two pound roll will last that dog, I think eight days, I'm pretty sure eight days, and yeah, so she needs like Eight pounds a month. Yeah right, eight pounds a month. I can hardly ship that. But, um, but you know, we're in the, we're in the health business, brian, that's what we do. We're in the true, true health business. We feed our dogs as food. We see the results. Um, you know, I think the ultimate test, folks, is looking at your dog's um skin, his coat, his eyes, his teeth, his poop, his energy and his personality. Because all of those change, all of those change for the better, for the better. And I would challenge any person, any person, that says I was feeding my dog raw and I saw zero benefit. I would just that I would have to say, well, I just I can't, let me have your dog for a while. You know, I just can't, I just can't imagine. That Doesn't sound right.
Speaker 2:I would wonder what else they were feeding. You know were they? You know, were they doing just totally raw or were they doing like half and half? And you know you know different things like that. But but yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't think you can do it without seeing the changes and the behavior. One is huge that was the first thing I noticed was just how much calmer my dogs were, right, how much calmer my dogs were, you know, and I mean it was, you know it, it, you know, for me to notice that, I mean it had to be significant.
Speaker 2:And you know, and you know, people always like well, I don't want, you know, I don't want a dog that just lies around and sleeps, you know, and it's like that's not, you know, that's not the calmness that we're talking about. We're talking about a satiated, fulfilled, you know dog because you know, believe it or not, you know what you feed them. I mean, eating is an enrichment activity, you know. That's why we stress the bones all the time. You know, even though the bones are in the blend, we still like to see people. You know, give your dog a duck foot, give them a. You know a. You know a turkey neck, you know, a couple times a week or something, you know, let them, let them exercise. You know those instincts of rip, tear and shred and because that's, you know, that's all contributing to their mental well-being and um but, um. But yeah, you know, and you know there's. I'm seeing more and more, uh, trainers get on the rod, the raw train.
Speaker 1:Well, think about that, brian. What we've seen is how much calmer, how much more focused, how much clarity a dog has. I mean any trainer could be a step above another trainer. If they just put the dog on a raw diet, that somebody would think they were an amazing trainer. They're like, oh my gosh, I haven't seen this kind of behavior change in my dog. Yeah, it's food. They can think, they can. They think they're not anxious, they're not, you know, bouncing up the walls, they're not trying to tear things up because they have so much sugar energy, right.
Speaker 1:So, hey, listen next week, brian, can we talk about mushrooms, right? Can we talk about the line of mushrooms that we have now here at raw dog food and company and the power of mushrooms and why, uh, we love them and why we recommend them and, um, kind of which ones you would recommend for what? But if you go over to our website, uh, and we will have a button here pretty soon that you can just put in mushrooms and then we'll, you know, all the mushrooms will pop up, but uh, which? Which are just real quick? Which are some of the ones that we have, uh, that people can choose from.
Speaker 2:Um, well, we have, um, uh, we have the turkey tail and the reishi that we've always had, and then the immunity blend, which is a blend of you know several different mushrooms, and then we've also brought in I'm sorry, we've had turkey tail and chaga, and then we've also brought in lion's mane and reishi, as far as like the single mushrooms, and then we have some new blends that we've brought in and I really I really liked the blends because they, you know, they address a lot of different, you know different issues that pet parents struggle with, whether it's inflammation, clarity, cancer, aging, all those kind of things. It's almost like name the ailment, there's a mushroom for that, it's. Mushrooms are just really a lot of research is coming out about mushrooms and and a lot of benefits are being discovered around mushrooms. And you know I talk to people all the time that I, for some reason, I don't think I think people just feel better the more they add into their dog's bowl. You know which. You know it's not something that I really totally agree with.
Speaker 2:But you know, look, if you're, if you're, set on adding something to your dog's bowl, let's get some mushrooms in there. Yeah, you know, because you know it's real food and it's not a supplement and there's just, you know there's no, you know there's no side effects and there's no ill effects from using, you know, natural foods like mushrooms. It's only benefit. So, yeah, we can definitely talk about those and they are. They are currently live on the website if you want to go check those out now and but we'll, we'll go over them and kind of describe what, what each of them are. But you know, when it comes to, but you know, when it comes to mushrooms, you know, rotate your mushrooms just like you do your blends.
Speaker 1:And some of those mushrooms are in liquid form and some are in powdered form Right now, and we'll talk about this more next week. So if you have a question about which one is the best for your dog, all you have to do is either go into the chat okay, because we do have a question about which one is the best for your dog all you have to do is either go into the chat Okay, cause we do have a chat button on the website, Um or you can sign up for a nutritional consult totally free with Brian Um, and that is also on the website. So you know, pick your day and pick your time and then you and Brian will get together and that will be awesome. He will help you out, okay, so get over to rawdogfoodandcompanycom.
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