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The Raw Dog Food Truth
Pets with allergies, skin issues gut issues, and behavior issues can live better lives by eating a species-appropriate diet. Find out the dangers of kibble and cooked foods. Your Pet's Health Is Our Business "Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble"
The Raw Dog Food Truth
Your dog was literally designed to eat raw meat.
Your dog's body tells a remarkable story that few veterinarians acknowledge: every aspect of their physiology is perfectly designed to consume raw meat safely. From specialized enzymes in their saliva that neutralize bacteria to stomach acid powerful enough to dissolve bone, nature has equipped our canine companions with sophisticated systems that processed pet foods often undermine rather than support.
In this eye-opening episode, nutritionist Brian Brandfras breaks down the three-part defense system that makes dogs impervious to the bacterial "dangers" so often cited by conventional veterinarians. We explore how the enzyme lysozyme in dog saliva attacks bacterial cell walls, how stomach acidity in raw-fed dogs can reach pH levels below 1 (making pathogen survival impossible), and why the rapid six-hour transit time through a dog's digestive system prevents bacterial colonization.
The evidence for raw feeding isn't just theoretical—it's measurable. We discuss a groundbreaking survey showing that 88% of gut issues, 74% of skin problems, and 79% of eye conditions resolved when dogs switched to species-appropriate raw diets. These statistics stand in stark contrast to the fear-based narratives perpetuated by a veterinary industry increasingly influenced by corporate interests and pet food manufacturers.
We also tackle the growing problem of overmedication in pets, from unnecessary antibiotics that destroy beneficial gut bacteria to antacids that compromise the stomach's natural defenses. Learn why "less is more" when it comes to supporting your dog's health and why understanding your pet's natural healing processes can save you thousands in unnecessary veterinary bills.
Ready to see these transformative benefits in your own dog? Visit rawdogfoodandcompany.com to schedule a free nutrition consultation with Brian and discover how easy transitioning to raw feeding can be. Your dog was built for this diet—isn't it time to honor their biology?
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Oh, snap, snap. Well, hello, Raw Feeders. I'm Deedee Merson-Moffitt, CEO of Raw Dog Food Company. We Are Pets, Health is our business and we're friends, like my friend, my top nutritionist, Brian Banfus. So Brian is here and again, let friends feed kibble. You know Brian, Paulina or Pauline, uh, Fredrickson I think you know her from the chats and stuff.
Speaker 1:She really wants us to do a deeper dive on, uh, synthetic vitamins and minerals and why they're bad. Um, and so let's let's do that. We've got a lot of podcasts that we've got lined up, including some results on that DCM. Remember that, Brian, when all of so many pet parents that were calling, they were like my dog has DCM, my dog needs grains. My vet said my dog, you know, has got to go to the heart cardiologist and they spent buttloads of money only to find out that. I mean, I'm not saying that maybe some of those dogs didn't have dcm, but certainly it was a thing where, um, we know that hills and they are in a lawsuit with keto pets. Lots of great stuff coming out about that. Um, I still get those phone calls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, seriously.
Speaker 2:There's still vets that are telling people that you know, grain-free diets cause DCM. My God these vets really don't read, do they?
Speaker 1:No, they don't, unless it's sent to them in a press release by the pet food companies oh my gosh, brian, you know what's so scary about that is that it's like, okay, what other bullshit narrative are you carrying on? That? Somebody fabricated because that's what we know about this. And the receipts, the receipts, the receipts are there. Dan from Keto Pets has all that and it's going to be pretty interesting. So that's coming up in a podcast later on. But you really have your ear, you know. I remember when I was doing all the customer service calls. You know, back in the day and you really just get a very, very good sense of what narrative is going on in the world. And not only do you. You know you're talking to the customers, you're doing the nutrition calls, but you read a lot of books, you do a lot of studying, you listen to a lot of podcasts, so you just have this amazing amount of knowledge. So tell me what's going on today? What is worrying our pet parents today, brian?
Speaker 2:oh, the the same things that, uh, that they've always been worried about. But, uh, I'll say that one that probably comes up more than more than most is bacteria bacteria and, uh, you know how the raw diet is unsafe for my dog, you know, at least according to my vet, um, and so I thought that, uh, I thought that it would be, it would be a topic to discuss, um, because you know, we tell pet parents all the time. You know, your dog was literally designed to eat a raw diet.
Speaker 1:And part of the proof that we talk about is going to be in the structure of the jaw and the structure of the short intestines, that sort of thing. But I think what you're going to let our pet parents know tonight is even more in-depth and will substantiate even more that your dogs are created to eat raw. Now, before you tell us that, before you tell us why, I just wanted to say that you know I and I know you're a big fan of Dr Connor Brady, but I was looking in his book about feeding dogs raw and before you tell us exactly why dogs are created to eat raw meat, I just want to give you and our listeners some stats that he was talking about. He said there was a survey of 632 raw fed dogs Okay, and that 67% of owners they had jumped to the raw diet in hopes that it would fix their pets' maladies. And once they went on this raw diet, the results you want to hear the results, brian. These are pretty amazing. The results showed that 74% of skin issues resolved, 88% of gut issues resolved, 79% of eye issues, 53% of urinary tract issues were resolved. So those are some pretty high numbers that substantiate that there's something going on with raw, not cooked, guys, not cooked.
Speaker 1:If I, if I, I mean, that's one thing that people just can't get. I say, well, I own a raw dog food company and they're like oh okay, good, it's cooked, no, it's raw. No, no, no, no, no. So anyway, I just thought that those were some amazing. I just thought that those were some amazing. Amazing. 79% of eye issues, skin issue, 88% of gut issues these were resolved by owners going over to a raw diet. So, that being said, why is it that dogs were created? What's the proof? What do you got for us tonight? What are you saying?
Speaker 2:So dogs have natural built-in defenses against pathogenic bacteria.
Speaker 2:So the bacteria out there that's going to cause harm the E coli, the listeria the salmonella you know all of those your dog has built in defenses and it all starts so with the enzyme lysozine is present in the dog's saliva and that enzyme breaks down the cell walls, it primes the immune system and it starts to neutralize any pathogenic bacteria. And it starts to neutralize any pathogenic bacteria, thus protecting the digestive tract and the stomach. So it all starts there. So, in addition to that enzyme, your dog's mouth is full of all sorts of beneficial bacteria. Your dog's mouth is full of all sorts of beneficial bacteria and the whole job, the whole job of that bacteria, is to stay and I want to put this to be more than the pathogenic bacteria.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute, brian. Are you saying that those pet parents that French kiss their dogs are safe, or are we advocating French kissing the dogs?
Speaker 2:I'm not advocating for French kissing your dog. However, I think there is something to say that the fear of your dog licking you after they've eaten is probably not as big a deal as what you think. Beneficial bacteria these are the ones that are priming the immune system and they're keeping all of the bad bacteria in check and this bacteria that's in your dog's mouth. This is just one of the many reasons why antibiotic use is something that you will hear us talk about all the time, about how, um, you should be very, very cautious about using antibiotics, um, especially just in case antibiotics, because those antibiotics, when you give them, you know, especially in a just in case situation, they're wiping out all of that bacteria that's in your dog's mouth and that's part of its defense against, you know, pathogenic bacteria and the stuff that you're scared of, that you think is, is in the food that, um, that you have to be scared of.
Speaker 1:And you know one of the ones, one of the ones that people give their dogs and don't realize that they're a part of the antibiotic family metronidazole, yep, metronidazole. I know pet parents that are like I just keep metronidazole on hand and then when my dog has a loose stool, I just give him that metronidazole. It just boom, clears it right up. Yeah, and you know what else it clears up Any defense mechanisms, shoots them right out the backside. Don't even have them anymore. Just come on in bacteria. Come on in. Because? Why? Because I had to do the metronidazole because my dog had loose stools. Just call us, we'll tell you how to fix it.
Speaker 2:Just let it come out. It wants to get out anyways.
Speaker 1:Let it go.
Speaker 2:Let it go. So that's the mouth, and then as we move down to the stomach, the stomach and I think this is one that a lot of people do know um, dog stomachs are very acidic. Um, much more acidic than even our own stomachs. Um, the pH of a of a dog stomach during digestion is generally like 1.5 to two, and then a dog that is primarily fed a raw meat-based diet. Their pH is generally below 1, sometimes it's even 0. That sort of environment is completely hostile to pathogenic bacteria. E coli salmonella can't survive in that acidic of an environment.
Speaker 1:Must be why, brian, when I've asked, when I've asked what is the benchmark of a dog that has salmonella, of a dog that has salmonella, um, what, what's the benchmark of, of the strain, and how much uh would be pathogenic, would cause a dog to, let's just say, die? Because you know, there is that story out there. Remember the story, um, where somebody said my dog died and there was a big lawsuit, blah, blah, blah. You remember that. And there were no medical records that were shown. So where's the proof of? Do I mean? Come on, there is no proof, you know.
Speaker 1:So I just would like to know, that if, if the gut is so, so acidic, right, it's just boiling out the uh, boiling out the bacteria. Why are we so dead? Damn afraid of raw right. Another made uh. Sphincter story drives me crazy, right, yeah I just, I just don't get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I mean the. The body of evidence you know is, you know it's completely in the other direction. You know, you know vets and other people will try to point to. You know one random dog out of millions that supposedly got sick from um. You know some some food that had, you know, e-coli or salmonella in it, um, but they can't prove anything yet. All we've got to do is look at all of the animals in the world, because humans are the only ones that cook their food. There's no other species on the planet that cooks their food.
Speaker 1:Did the cavemen cook their food?
Speaker 2:Probably not at the very beginning, but I mean, that was where fire came in. I mean, you know, I think they originally used it for warmth and then also discovered that they could warm up their food and things like that.
Speaker 1:I wonder if, like did they eat raw meat back then?
Speaker 2:No we'll have to do a study on that we'll have to do a study.
Speaker 1:It just you know I'm like, well, I wonder what happened, um, but but you know what you're saying that about. Okay, so there's their mouths have the enzymes, it starts it right. That's automatically going to kill any pathogenic bacteria. Then, as it goes down, it's in a situation that is very acidic and you know, you know good luck on any bacteria surviving in that. One thing I do want to ask you about do you think that pet parents try to jockey with that pH in their dog's gut? Remember that alkaline water and the water that changes and does all this kind of stuff. And you know they just jockey around with that and we always say don't jockey with your dog's, you know pH. Do you hear that out there in the chats where people are trying to, like, give their dog you know alkaline water to change the pH somewhat?
Speaker 2:You know, I've heard it discussed before. I don't think it's, I don't think it's super common. What I do think that probably more pet parents try is antacids. I think I think they think they, they, you know their dogs have digestive upset or um, you know whatever, and you know they're given half a tums or um, you know something like that to their dog and that that's gonna to totally, you know, jack up your dog's um. You know stomach acids, um, so I mean, that's the. That's the one thing you don't ever want to do.
Speaker 2:Um, you know, I do think that what you feed can affect your dog's. You know stomach pH, of course, you know, I think. You know, I think digestive enzymes and that you know that really acidic environment is, is a use it or lose it, kind of thing. Now, the stomach acid will rise naturally, regardless of what of what you eat. You know a dog couldn't survive if his stomach was constantly at, you know, zero, you know.
Speaker 2:I think that's why you know, that's probably why you're giving your dog, you know, a thumb. You're giving your dog a. You know a tongue, um, so, so the the ph does rise whenever your your dog's not in digestion mode, um, but if you're feeding a. If you're feeding a high carbohydrate diet and you're you're not, you know you're not feeding things like meat and bones that require that lower acid, I think your dog's stomach acid does get higher and it kind of stays up there. I you know, I think kibble fed dogs. Their stomach pH is probably closer to ours than what it should naturally be, which is, you know, one and a half to two. It's probably closer to four and a half to two.
Speaker 1:It's probably closer to four um. So the kibble fed dogs actually are more susceptible to um bacteria because their ph is not where it needs to be. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2:yep, and you know. And and those diets you know because, um, you know, you know, because you know, especially the kibble diets with the mouth, you know, we know that those high carbohydrate diets, you know, stick into the teeth. That's allowing the bad bacteria to take hold and to overrun the good bacteria. So it's all connected. An inappropriate diet it's going to have its negative effects in all aspects of your dog's life, Isn't?
Speaker 1:it crazy.
Speaker 2:If you're doing a lot of antibiotics, if you're feeding starchy, sugary foods, you're messing with the mouth and they're messing with the mouth, you know, you know. And they're messing with the stomach. And these are all you know. You said earlier you talked about you know, you know, like I said, it starts with the mouth, you know, hopefully gets it all killed there, but if it doesn't, the stomach's a backup. And then if it makes it through the stomach, which is probably unlikely, no-transcript, you know, from mouth to butt food is in your dog about six hours and then it goes right out the sphincter fainter.
Speaker 2:So, um, you know that's not, that's not enough time for um, you know, any bacteria to take hold and um, and start to just, you know, wreck havoc and inside your dog, um, compare that to, you know, our digestive tract, which is much longer, and you know food for us is, you know, 20, what? 24, 28 hours, you know, in the in the digestive tract. So, so you've got all three of these things and they kind of just build on each other and they back each other up. So if it gets through the mouth then hopefully the stomach gets it. If the stomach can't get it, um, you know the digestive tract is getting it out in short period of time. You know all of those things combined is you know why we say that your dog was literally built to consume raw meat?
Speaker 1:and that's where we come in. That's where raw dog food and company comes in, because you know what we make it easy. We make it easy for you. It's only the pet parents that want to want to. They want it hard. They want to make it hard. Right, let's make it really simple.
Speaker 1:And um, the other thing that that you know, we, we talk about brain is because you, you said what you've said and we've done this for so long, like I've been feeding raw 25 years Most of my staff and you, you've been doing it five, six, seven years. You know 10, 15, you know keeps going out. So you have this body of evidence, right? You have this body of evidence that says what would make my dog ill and what wouldn't right. And we very seldom have ill dogs. But we were talking about calls that we get when people ask what should I do with this food? I left it sitting in the sink overnight and what should I do with this food? I left it in the trunk of my car. And what should I do with this food? You know it's it's slightly mushy when it arrives from UPS, because they've been, you know, doing whatever UPS does. And so we, we, we cannot advise our customers on what to do. Least someone you know blame us for something.
Speaker 1:And we just don't know what's going on in your house. But what we do know is this if it were me right, I can say if it were me, what would I do? Well, number one bacteria does not scare me, never has right, it just doesn't. It doesn't worry me, the E coli, the salmonella, that it doesn't worry me, the E coli, the salmonella, it doesn't worry me, does it worry you Brian.
Speaker 2:Not when it comes to my dogs, no, and I mean it doesn't worry me too much, even with my own food, just because I practice basic sanitation and I'm careful with my prep, know, with my prep, and you know keeping things separate and those things. So um but um, but yeah, I mean especially with my dogs. I don't, you know, I I don't, I don't worry about it all, and you know when. You know when I look at, you know when I look at some of the things that my dogs have put in their mouths, when we're out on a walk and they find something, I mean, who knows how long that piece of cheeseburger has been sitting on the side of the road, and you know, and and they go and grab it before before you even know it, you know, and that's down the gullet, you know, and you know are they sick?
Speaker 2:You know, do they go home? Do they start? You know pooping all over the place and throwing up, and you know doing all this stuff. No, you know it's, you know it's business as usual. So you know if they can do that, if they can go rooting through the dumpster, you know, and the trash can, and you know, like I said, all the stuff that they find outside. You know how is it? You know that you know raw pet food with all of the safety protocols and things that are in place with that. You know how is that stuff making your pet sick?
Speaker 1:I would have to say that I think the things that make pets ill are the things that we put in them as preventatives or precautionary or safety measures, right, those things that lessen their ability to naturally kill bacteria. Um, now, we are not saying that there may not be a time that your dog would need something, some help, right. We're not saying that there is a place for Western medicine in certain cases, in a lot of cases, if you just give them fluids, a lot of fluids. You know, if Dr Jason's been talking about opening up a center where you know you could go in, you could do mistletoe, you could do ozone, you could do fluids, you could do you know a lot of these things. Unfortunately, your traditional veterinary medicine places they're going to do a buttload of tests and, you know, run up your credit card to the tune of five and $10,000.
Speaker 1:And those of you that we point our fingers at the food, at the food that they were created, their bodies are made for those foods. Right, that's what you're talking about. They have the short digestive tracts. They have the teeth to rip, shred and tear. They have the short digestive tracts. They have the teeth to rip, shred and tear. They have the enzymes to start breaking down the pathogenic bacteria as soon as it hits the mouth. They have that acidic stomach to kill the bacteria if it gets through the mouth, and then they're going to poop it out pretty fast, so it doesn't have time, as you said, to colonize.
Speaker 1:So your dogs were created for raw food. They were never created for cooked. They were never created for kibble for store. They were never created for prescription Okay, never. And remember, guys, there is nothing prescription about that prescription diet. That is just saying, hey, you might as well change the name Brian to Pretty Boy. Let's just call it Pretty Boy. Ok, this Pretty Boy food is only available through your vet because they have given them an exclusive. Ok, but they got really, really smart when they put the name prescription on it. Okay, that is a brand name. It doesn't mean it's an RX. It doesn't mean that at all. Read the ingredients. You can get it at Walmart, yeah.
Speaker 2:You can get it at Walmart. Yeah, no-transcript. We have to help, you know, maintain our dog's terrain so that all of these things can do what they're supposed to do. You know, and I think that if there's one thing that I wish that I could impress upon you know, pet parents is, you know, less is more. You know, it's not so much about what you're putting into your dog, it's about what you're not putting into your dog. You know you look at. You know you look at my dogs, your dogs. You know the other staff members' dogs. You know we're not going to the vet. We're not doing monthly preventatives. We're not doing, you know, unnecessary, you know, repetitive vaccines. You know our dogs are getting fed their raw food every day and that's it.
Speaker 1:And the and the raw meaty bones and the pure treats.
Speaker 2:Right, and you know, and, and then you know the things that we see, you know is is is what we always talk about on here. You know, if, if they're not feeling well, you know, fast them. You know I had here. You know, if they're not feeling well, you know, fast them. Um, you know I had. You know I had an incident with one of my dogs a couple months ago. Um, you know he just um, we got home and like 20 minutes after we got home he walked to the middle of the room and just threw up Um, and he did that like twice, um and uh. You know I didn't panic and run to the vet. Um, you know I I didn't feed him that night, you know, and I watched him.
Speaker 2:He was still drinking water, he was still playing, he was still doing all those things. Um, you know, and I tried to think about, like you know, what was going on today. You know, um, was we stressed out? You know, was there something? You know? And you know, and, and this happened to be, you know, he was playing in one of the neighbor's yard, um, with one of the other dogs and you know, I remember there were several times where he went, like behind some trees, out of sight. Who knows what he got into right, you know, back there, but you know I don't really have to worry about what it was because you know 24 hours later hadn't had any repeat vomiting or anything like that Slowly brought him back to solid food, gave him a meal of bone broth I think it was bone broth or goat's milk.
Speaker 2:Gave him that for one meal. Gave him, you know, gave him a meal, a bone broth, I think it was bone broth or goat's milk. You know, gave him that for one meal. And then, yeah, I think like a full 24 hours later he was back on his raw food, you know, and he was perfectly fine. You know no expensive trips to the vet. You know what was the vet going to do? You know they were going to run some tests.
Speaker 1:They were going to run some tests. They were going to run some tests and say, hey, brian, he had an upset stomach. You're like no crap. I just saw he had an upset stomach. He vomited right in my living room. So I don't need you to confirm that to a two to five grand, but um, you know, um, I mean they're there and and, like I said, I mean I don't know what he got into.
Speaker 2:He probably found something, maybe in the yard or whatever. But you know, the point is is, if he did get into something that didn't agree with him, I want it out. Right, that's what the body wants to do, and so the sooner that you let him get it out, instead of stuffing it down in there, farther, the sooner you're on the healing path. So, and I understand, I mean you know, nobody wants their dog thrown up in their house. You know, you know, especially if your house is, you know, carpeted, which you know, which I think, as a, you know, as a, as an owner of four German shepherds, I'll probably never have a carpeted house, ever again.
Speaker 1:Right, Probably good, good, good, good advice.
Speaker 2:You know. But but yeah, you know, get, let him get it out, let him heal. That's what the body wants to do. Your body doesn't want to be sick. It like with their own body, um, but they don't understand it with their dog's body, and it's like we're both mammals, so we're not that much different inside, um, and you know what is the first thing that your body does when you don't feel well turns off your appetite, you know that's why.
Speaker 2:That's why you don't feel like eating. When you don't feel well, that's your body saying don't give me more work of digestion. When I'm over here trying to fix this, I'm trying to get this out of you and I can't be distracted with food. So you know. And yet what are we constantly doing? But trying to to cram food down our dog's throat yeah, they're going to be fine you know your panic in people when their dog doesn't want to eat.
Speaker 2:I'll never understand I'll. You know that? You know talking about myths, that you know myths in the pet world that need to go away. You know is not eating a sign of potential illness? Yeah, if your dog hasn't eaten in like six days, you know but one meal, you know walking away from your, you know the bowl in the morning.
Speaker 1:You know instances where you would want to take your dog to the vet. And I was listening to somebody talk the other day and they were saying, well, my mom's dog stopped eating and it it, it's stomach has gotten really big, but we're not going to take it to the vet, we're just going to, because 14 years old and the vet's just going to, so they are letting this dog suffer. And I was just like, oh, you know, in those instances I'm going to say, well, could be a blockage, could be a tumor. I really didn't even go into it all because they didn't ask me, but in my head I was just like, oh my, so we don't want dogs to suffer. Ok, we're not talking about that. We are just talking about mainly bacteria and a dog throwing up or having, you know, loose poops, because they're probably going to get over that and sometimes it takes them a while, you know, depending on what they've gotten into. But if you feed them correctly right Meat, bones, organ and fat Feed them correctly, give them good, clean water. Don't put unnecessary things in their body. Even if it's in the have to I had to category, that I had to category still has ramifications, still has side effects and there's nothing that we can do about that. Guys, I mean, if you decide to do that and your dog gets ill, don't blame the food.
Speaker 1:You know, let's take a look at what did we give the dog. That's one area that we're going to look at, and the other could just be something that he got into behind that tree, like Brian's dog or like Lossie who went around the lake. Now, lossie got to the point that she vomited so much she was dehydrated, right, and I personally, if I would add the lactate ringers, right, and had the needles, I would have put her on fluid and not put her through all that crap she went through. But of course I don't have that, and that was just. That was a nightmare for raw feeders. You know, I can't wait for the day, brian, that that we can be proven right on a massive scale, just like we were on the DCcm thing, right, like we were like. This is just. This just doesn't even make sense that your dog needs grains for his heart, right? Or it's the or it's the.
Speaker 1:You know, as they call them the, what, the boutique um foods, which they were really pointing the foods at, any foods that Heals didn't make and they're not in the raw category. But here's the other thing that I find funny, brian, is that if raw food's so bad, why did so many of them jump into the ring on the freeze dried or the? You know they're trying to clean up their language and they're trying to do some things to make it look like what we talk about in the raw diet. You know, they know, they know that dogs were never created to eat that crap they're pushing out there. They know that.
Speaker 1:But it's the where you can tell right, and we are held to such a standard about false advertising or the way that we label things. So I was talking to Dr Jacek on the last podcast, brian, and I was telling her about what we're going through right now in these labeling laws, about how we have to confuse the customers. Right, oh, mix as a topper, this is just a supplemental food. You know. Basically, the way that we have to put something on this dadgum label now makes it sound like this is not everything your dog needs in the raw form. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Uh, yeah, um, I think that, uh, you know those, those labeling laws, I mean that's, you know the AAFCO is the one that you know comes up with those. You know guidelines, you know they're not regulations, they're not laws, they're guidelines. Um that, uh, you know states can adopt, but you know the pet food industry is in bed with you know AFCO, and I mean they're basically one and the same and I think that it's just an attempt to you know, by wanting to call our food a mixer Right.
Speaker 2:They want to suggest to the customer hey, mix it with kibble, you know, mix it with our food, and then you know your dog is getting a complete diet.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 1:And you know why they do that, brian, because that's they. They listen to what people think, right, they're like, oh well, they want to mix it, so let's just make it easier for them to, you know, throw themselves over the cliff. And I was telling Dr Jasek that that we were all really having a struggling with this, because we know it's it's not true, we know it's confusing. And the question is what's the company line? And I said the company line is when people ask, we tell them the truth. And the truth is, hey, it's bullshit, but we have to put it on here in order to be able to sell it. You know, and that's the truth. And I mean I'm'm, I'm, at this stage of the game, I'm willing to say it, but, yeah, I, I and and why am I willing to say, because I'm not willing to not, um, have great raw food for pet parents, right, and that's really what they want. They want to make it as hard as possible for the raw companies to continue and they don't want us around and we need to be around. Why? For those statistics that I just read at the top of the podcast, right, 88% of gut issues gone, 74% of skin issues gone, 70 some odd percent of eye issues gone. I mean, come on, brian, are there any stats like that, that kibble companies or even cooked I know what the farmer's dog says and Ollie and all the other ones that are cooked, but do they really? I mean, look, it's sort of like becoming a vegan, right, Like in the beginning. Let's just say I don't mean to pick on the vegans, but let me say it like this you probably feel better becoming a vegan. Why? Because you're not going to be a vegan and probably still put a bunch of candy and all that kind of you know garbage in your body. So you're going to feel great, right? And I would say that any dog that comes off a kibble and goes into a cook diet probably is going to feel pretty great right there in the beginning. Right, because they're going to take away a massive amount of carbs. Now there are still a lot of carbs in the cooked and there's not very many vitamins and nutrients. So they got to add in synthetics and blah, blah, blah. Many vitamins and nutrients. So they got to add in synthetics and blah, blah, blah. But um, my point is that I just don't think that the results from a cooked diet will ever be able to compare from a diet that your dog and cat, cat, cats need this so bad they can't compete. This is the top. This is the top level, guys. Yeah, I get it. You can do the homemade, you can do the cooked, you can do the mixing kibble with the half raw, but this is the top of the line, is a pure raw diet and that's why we see such great, great health results from our dogs and cats.
Speaker 1:And, as Brian has already told you, there really should be no fear of this scary, scary bacteria. And one thing that Dr Jasek said did I tell you this, brian, that she was talking about? And then I just wanted to throw in this as far as bacteria, because I was asking her, all right, so, about the soil being depleted, and she was saying, look, even with animals that have ruminants okay, so, more than one chamber, more than one stomach she was saying they have those stomachs and are able to create this great bacteria, the great vitamins and minerals in their guts, even if the soil isn't what it's supposed to be Right? Because I was like, well, how is it that we can have such great beef if the soil is all depleted? So I thought that was a great, that was a great point that she made, because these animals can still make great mixes mixers in their stomach, right mixes mixers in their stomach right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I think that's you know I. You know, I heard the podcast with you know, with Dr Jacek, when she talked about that, and it really got me thinking and it kind of reminded me of you know, life finds a way, you know, because there's no denying that the planet is toxic. You know Monsanto is demolished our soil with you know all their chemicals. So I mean, there's no denying that, but life still finds a way. Eating what Mother Nature has provided us is still ideal, and I think that that whole depleted soil thing is like I said. I'm not denying that the soil is not worse off today than it was 75 years ago, but I think that's just another fear tactic that's being used to push us away from real food.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, and, and so you know, I find it frustrating when other people in like the fresh food community, you know, want to jump on that narrative and push it. It's like, do you realize what you're doing? You know, because there's a war on cows out there. Oh, for sure, cows out there. For sure, you know, um and um, you know, and it's being, it's being led by a very rich, influential person, um, you know that, uh, you know, basically wants you to, you know, wants you to eat everything grown in a lab. You know that he happens to own lab. You know that he happens to own Um, so, um, you know, when we keep, uh, you know, when we keep allowing some of these fear campaigns, um, you know, I mean, we still need to be. You know we still need to be concentrating on regenerative farming and, um, you know, staying away from the feedlot animals and things like that. You know that stuff is still important, but you know we can't be getting rid of the animals altogether.
Speaker 1:You know what I have to laugh at, brian? I have to laugh at some of the most expensive steaks in the steakhouses come from the green fed speed lots. They do, and we, as humans, will go and we will spend a lot of money on a, you know, a nice steak and you're like mm-hmm. And some of the menus will just say grain fed and grain finished. I've seen them and I'm just like you know, because we hear that so much in the dog food world. I'm just like our pet parents would never, but we will. We'll eat those all day long, right, but it's quite funny. It's quite funny, but all right.
Speaker 1:So, brian, one last thing before you go for this week, brian, one last thing before you go for this week. And I want to ask you a question. If you were talking to our pet parents and they have to take their dog into the vet, and their vet is going to to scold them, uh, belittle them, uh, about feeding raw, what's the one question that our pet parents could ask the vet? Um, in order to, to make a point in a nice way that the raw diet is species appropriate and the best thing for the dogs, what, what could they ask them? What is the question?
Speaker 2:um, I mean, can they find another vet Right? That would probably be my, that'd probably be my first, my first bit of advice.
Speaker 1:Well, I just real quick. I was listening to a podcast that has nothing to do with the pet industry or anything. I think I was listening to I don't remember who, but I remember the statistic and they were saying that the healthcare industry which includes the pets and the humans, that I think they said 82% of the healthcare industry has been purchased by private equity or investment folks, so they're owned. Now they are very owned. So when you say, can you find another vet? Probably not, but you know we'll try. All right, go ahead. What's that question?
Speaker 2:I would probably ask them. You know what is it about my dog that you think a species appropriate raw diet is going to hurt them? A species appropriate raw diet is going to hurt them. You know what is it about my dog that you know they can't have raw meat bones, organ and fat. And if they come back with the bacteria you know, the E coli, the salmonella, those risks then I would ask them, do they have the same concerns of pet parents who are feeding the bags of food that are on that shelf over there to their pets? Because every pet that's ever been sick from you know E coli salmonella. You know any instance where you know that has been discovered and I take that back. There's been no pets that are sick. Every instance of a human that has been sick from E coli salmonella found in pet food has been from kibble.
Speaker 1:Well, and I might even have them ask the question do you have a concern, mr White Coat, that the food you sell and the preventatives that you sell deteriorate the frontline bacteria to keep my dog healthy? They'll be like what they don't. They'll be like what does that mean? They won't even know what you're saying. Be like what does that mean? They won't even know what you're saying. They won't, they don't. I don't think that they understand what you just walked us through tonight. They don't understand what's happening in the mouth, they don't understand what's happening in the gut and they don't understand why they have small digestive tracts. Maybe we ought to start with that Like well, why do dogs have small digestive tracts? If they can't answer that, brian, you really do got to find a different vet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think some of them, I think some of them do understand you know which is why they, they fall back on the. You know well, it's the, it's the, it's the bacteria that's going to. You know, it's going to kill grandma. Oh, there's grandma again. Yes, you know in your house. You know, which is why I always, I always ask them.
Speaker 2:You know, like I said, I mean, I've asked them point blank. Do you? You know, do you have the same concerns of, you know, people who feed that kibble that's on your shelf right over there? And they'll flat out tell you Nope, nope. You know though, though, you know cause I had a vet, you know I, I had a vet tell me, you know he, he wasn't going to do an exam on, you know, my dog, because he was raw fed, oh Lordy. And and when I asked him, you know what is your concern? You know it was, you know, bacteria, salmonella, e coli. And I said do you have those same concerns of people that feed kibble, knowing that all of the recalls involving pathogenic bacteria were kibble? And he said absolutely not, I have no concerns, you know and I mean at that point you know the conversation's over, because you're not changing anybody's mind.
Speaker 1:No, no, but I do love poking the bear when I go in there. I do, I used to get kicked by my husband but I do love poking the bear. We should do what Dr Jasek said. We should have an undercover, like expose, like go in, in, you know, I just don't know, I I don't know what dog you could take in there to keep them safe, but, um, it would be so daggum, funny, right, it'd be so funny to go in and put them on, put them on video and, um, you know, get their responses and then post them. Like, this doctor has got a sphincter head, you know, doesn't know his nose from a sphincter because he has his head up a sphincter severely. I, you know, I wish I didn't feel such animosity towards that industry, but I do, I do, I do, I, I just it, it. And and the reason I do is because I just see so many dogs being harmed. I just I can't hardly stand it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now, I think it's. I mean, you know, you said the industry, and that's. I think that's an important distinction because, um, you know, vets only know what they know. They know, so you know, and, and you know, and what they're taught, and and that's just. You know.
Speaker 2:The corporate influence is getting worse. You know, you talked about it in the, the human medical complex, and it's the same in the, the same in the, the veterinarian index. I mean it's, you know, it's it? It's nothing short of brilliant for a pet food company knowing that the food they're making is making pets sick. So what do they? They go buy the vet clinics, you know, and they go buy the diagnostic labs that the vets are going to send your test results off, to buy all that up so that you know, you can control the narrative from start to finish. You know, buy the food that makes your pet sick, take them to the vet that is going to tell you, tell them, tell you to feed you know more of the food that made them sick in the first place, and it's just going to be a never ending cycle.
Speaker 2:You know and you know, and I don't think it changes until the vets have to push back on it. It's not us. You know we can't change that industry. You know, what I would love to see is more vets. You know, go back to their schools and say you woefully underprepared me for what I'm facing. You know, yeah, and that needs to change. You know, yeah, and and that needs to change. You know, and I'm not gonna, you know, no more alumni donations until some things start to change. You know, until you start better preparing us for what we're actually encountering out there, because the we're doing what you taught us to do and the pets are still coming back because none of them are getting better.
Speaker 1:But here's, here's what we are angry about. That would be great If they would treat us as if we had a lick of sense as pet parents, right. As if we had a lick of sense as pet parents, right that they honored our choice to feed raw over crappy kibble, that they honored taking care of our pets that are having issues, without hassling us about preventatives, vaccines and food on top of it. Just like they, it would be different if we were treated fairly, equally and as if we had again a lick of sense. That is not what I've experienced. It's not what most of our listeners have experienced, and the the people that have strong personalities will have typically three or four different bets. Honestly, they will, because they're like I can, I can do this with that bet and I can do this with that bet, and I can do this with that bet, and none of the three shall meet, right. And? But we shouldn't have to endure that. We shouldn't have to go through that. We shouldn't have to go through that. We shouldn't have to go into bankruptcy, doing test after test after test. That doesn't tell us a doggone thing. So that's why I'm angry is because of what they do to our pet parents emotionally, financially, and what they do to the dogs physically. It's all about keeping our pets healthy and safe. And so that's what it's about keeping our pets healthy and safe because they give us so much. That's why people treat them like they're kids. Right, they're part of our family and we should have the advocates, the physicians, that are advocating for that. And it's anything but that. It is a fight. It is a typically nine times out of 10, it's a horrible, horrible experience, and we walk away as pet parents feeling bamboozled and confused and sad and mad and betrayed and sucker punched and shame on them for that. And you know, yep, there are few a few, just like there were a few in COVID that spoke up and said this is, you know, this is not right, but that's why, you know, it's not like I just found an industry that I want to bash. All the time it's that we hear story after story after story. We have dogs of our own. We've had these issues. Yeah, had these issues. Yeah, I don't know, we just we just have to. We have to do the best we can. But I can tell you, the best is raw, brian. You know it, I know it. That's why we're here at Raw Dog Food and Company and listen, guys.
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