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The Raw Dog Food Truth
Pets with allergies, skin issues gut issues, and behavior issues can live better lives by eating a species-appropriate diet. Find out the dangers of kibble and cooked foods. Your Pet's Health Is Our Business "Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble"
The Raw Dog Food Truth
From Rickets to Recovery: The Healing Power of Raw Food
Raw feeding isn't just an alternative to kibble—it's the biologically appropriate diet dogs evolved to thrive on, providing all essential nutrients in their most bioavailable forms without harmful processed ingredients. Nutritionist Brian explains why kibble, invented only in 1956, has caused widespread health issues in dogs despite powerful marketing convincing owners it's appropriate.
• Dogs are carnivores that can only handle 6-7% carbohydrates, yet most kibble contains 40-60% carbs
• Commercial pet food was created as a way to dispose of toxic by-products that landfills wouldn't accept
• The veterinary fear of bacteria in raw food is primarily about human exposure, not dog health
• Rickets in puppies can be successfully treated with a proper raw diet containing bone, as demonstrated by rescue puppy Desi
• Bone contains all minerals dogs need in perfect ratios and bioavailable forms that the body immediately recognizes
• Most kibble-fed dogs appear much older than their age due to chronic inflammation and nutritional deficiencies
• A proper raw diet must include meat, bones, organs and natural fat—without bones, it's not species-appropriate
• Overweight dogs carry significantly more stress on their bodies—a 10-pound excess on a 50-pound dog is 20% of body weight
• Puppies need raw food more than adults—the claim they need kibble "for proper nutrition" is completely unfounded
• Raw-fed dogs demonstrate visible differences in energy, movement, and aging compared to kibble-fed dogs
Visit rawdogfoodandcompany.com for free consultations with Brian and to learn how to transition your dog to a species-appropriate diet.
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Oh snap. Well, hello Raw Feeders. I'm Deedee Merson-Moffitt, ceo of Raw Dog Food Company. We're your pet's health is our business and we're friends. Like my friend, brian. Brian, our consultant, our nutritionist from Raw Dog Food Company, he can let friends feed Kimmel now, do you, brian?
Speaker 2:Absolutely not at friends feed kibble now?
Speaker 1:do you, brian? Absolutely not. You know what you're the nutritionist you do all the consults. People you know get their free 20 minute slash 59 minute consult, um, and what do you think the the the thought is, I know you're gonna do so, we don't have to talk a whole lot about this. I know you're gonna do an article on this, but what do you think the thought is? I know you're going to do so, we don't have to talk a whole lot about this. I know you're going to do an article on this, but what do you think the thought is about why they feed kibble? Why are they still feeding kibble? Why, why, why, why.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, I mean, I think there's a lot of reasons, but I think the biggest one is just that's what people think you feed dogs, the, the, the marketing behind well, it's just the whole pet food industry is. It's a machine. I mean, you know, billions of dollars will get you that kind of influence. And so I think that I think that people that's just what, uh, that's what they've always fed their dogs and that's just what they feed them. And you know, as we get, as we get older, um, you know we're we're getting close to having a whole generation of people who have never seen animals eat anything other than kibble. What I mean, you think about it.
Speaker 2:You know kibble was invented in 1956. Um, you know, there's there's still a few of us that remember. You know the family pet just getting the scraps from the table and foraging out in the yard and doing all those things. But you know some of these younger pet parents out there. You know they don't remember. You know grandma and grandpa's dog doing that. You know they don't remember. You know grandma and grandpa's dog doing that. All they've ever seen is the bag of kibble in the corner. And you know, twice a day you go over there and scoop a cup and pour it in the bowl. Call it a day.
Speaker 1:Call it a cancer diagnosis, call it obesity, call it. You know my dog stinks. I mean I just I can't get over it, I and I can't tell you how many dogs I run into that they just look so much older than they are because they've been on kibble. You know, if you have a dog that's seven, a fully fed kibble dog on seven, versus a fully fed, you know, raw fed dog at seven, it's amazing the aging difference and just how the dog moves, sort of the look in their eyes, and you know it's really, it's really it's really unfortunate. But I will say this that I was talking to a cancer doctor here just recently and talking about food and this is a people cancer doctor and for the first time I was like yes, come tell this to our folks. Because he said you know what I'm not big on? Um, tons of supplementation and I'm not big on people being uh, fanatics about anything he said, but what I am big on, he said, is real food and he said it's getting.
Speaker 1:He said he's from India. Okay, and they are primarily vegans over there, obviously, cows walk around and they are sacred, right, they're not. They're not beef eaters. They eat a lot of fish, you know, and things like that. But he said I'm not advocating for veganism. He said but I am always going to advocate for no processed foods and real food, food that you can get out of the ground. And he said unfortunately, here in the USA, you know, most of this food gets sent in, right? And he said so, and he's talking from a human perspective. And he was saying just eat, oh, and the big thing. He said, brian, that I know you must say this 100 times a week variety, variety, variety. That's why he said don't get hooked on. You know, just, you know veganism, or beef, every day. He's like eat real food and eat a varieties. He's like one day have yellow squash and one day have, you know, purple squash or whatever, you know different colors. And he's like just eat a variety, but it's got to be real and that's what, that's what we say about the dog. So, um, you know, come on.
Speaker 1:And and he did say I will say this from a human perspective he said we're not carnivores like a dog, right, because we don't have that. We have the molars. And he said we're not carnivores like a dog, right, because we don't have that. We have the molars. And he said if you look at our teeth he gave this analogy. He said you know, once we got up on two feet, once we got off of all fours, okay, he said. Then we started thinking and we started thinking about how we could go out and kill our food. He goes, but you know, by and large we have molars and stuff like that. So he said, you know, you got to eat. You got to eat some other things besides beef. But dogs are different. Right, they are carnivores. Anyway, I digress it.
Speaker 2:It's amazing that people for the most part get it on the human side. They understand variety. They look at their own diet and say, well, I love X, but I wouldn't want to eat it three times a day, and I know that it would only take a couple weeks to be tired of that. But for some reason they've been convinced that their dog is completely different and has no problem eating the same thing all day long.
Speaker 2:And again, that's the marketing. Eating the same thing, you know all day long. And that again, that's the marketing. You know the look at the, the fear with changing food, you know, I mean, you know I get that question all the time. I mean people think they have to transition proteins. You know, if I'm going to feed my dog beef and then I want to give them turkey, do I need to do 5050 for a couple of days? And you know, and I always tell them I'm like, do you have steak for lunch and chicken for dinner? You know your dog can do the same thing. Um but uh, but that fear of changing foods, that is. That is 100, the pet food industry who doesn't want you to dare venture away from their product?
Speaker 1:and they and they they have succeeded to a great length. But you know what, brian, people like it. Why? Because it's convenient. Well, the pet industry said I could feed this this one food for the rest of my dog's life. And I literally know people who have had their dogs on the same food for their entire lives. And I'm talking about no variety. And personally, brian, I don't think there is variety in kibble. There's a variety of cakes, cookies and chemicals. It's not real food no, no, there's.
Speaker 2:there's no variety, and that's why it's a hard concept for people to understand, because you know they not only are they feeding the same brand of kibble the life of the dog, but it's generally going to be the same flavor, you know, and it's not even a real flavor, it's just artificial, but it's sphincter food.
Speaker 1:It's sphincter food. You know it, you know it, you can say it it's sphincter food. It's sphincter food. You know it, you know it, you can say it. It's sphincter food. It's crap, and that's why they have so much crap coming out the backside. Come on now, you were telling me, and then we'll get to what I want to talk about on this podcast. But you were telling me the other day that the word, word on the street, the marketing is coming out now that dogs have evolved. Dogs have evolved to eat this sphincter food. How do we go backwards? How do we evolve backwards? Let's see, they've evolved to eat junk and be healthy.
Speaker 2:Well, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's not understanding how evolution works. But again, you, you know, when you have billions of dollars that you can send to your marketing department, you can start getting people to say all sorts of crazy things and people believe it. But yeah, I mean, I hear it from vets all the time that you know dogs have evolved to eat, it's usually carbohydrates, because it's always in response to carbohydrates are not species appropriate? And the response to that, always from the vets, is will dogs have evolved? Um, you know, because what we've eaten has changed and so what they eat because traditionally they do eat scraps. You know from us that they've had to evolve. And now they've taken it one step further and say that they've evolved to such a degree that they actually thrive on carbs and grains versus raw meat.
Speaker 2:And you know, evolution and biology simply don't work that way. You know, yes, they, you know, because the way that we, as humans, have eat, are eating. They have evolved to be able to eat some carbohydrates. But we're talking six, 7% of the diet. Um, you know not. You know, I mean 30% carbs is like the low end. I mean, if you could find a kibble, that's, you know, 30% carbs, you're doing pretty good.
Speaker 1:Um, most of them are good If you could find a kibble that would list the carbs you're way ahead of the game.
Speaker 2:Well, you can always calculate it, but most of the kibbles out there are 40, 50, 60%, and the highest ones out there are the prescription ones. I mean, those ones get even worse. Um, and they're, you know, twice the twice the cost. Um, but, um, but yeah, our, our, our dogs, there's, they're they, they can't handle. Um, you know they. They have evolved to eat carbs and they use their pancreas to do to create the amylase that would normally, if they were a true omnivore, their saliva would create the amylase and they'd start digestion in the mouth like everybody else does. But they can't do that. So they rely on their pancreas. But their pancreas can't keep up with 60% carbohydrates.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure ours can either.
Speaker 2:It can't, possibly, you know. And then, not to mention all of the other things that you know we assault their body with the pharmaceuticals and the preventatives and all that kind of stuff. There's no way it can keep up, and all that kind of stuff, there's no way it can keep up. So, you know, pancreatitis is one of the most over-diagnosed ailments in our dogs and you know that myth is still out there that it's fat. It's not fat, it's carbs. You know, it's the pancreas, you know, finally throwing up its arms and saying I've had enough, I can't do this.
Speaker 1:Oh, but there's a drug for that. You just keep eating that. You know pancreatitis causing cakes, cookies and chemicals. Could we have a drug for you? We're going to give you a drug. You just keep. You just keep shoving it in the bowl, you know, come on, people, we've got to snap out of it. So you know. And then comes the advent of cooked food right, and we'll talk about that at another time too, but it is just nuts, I mean.
Speaker 1:I know, for me, I've been feeding raw for 25 years, right, so now I'm starting to see, okay, there's some people getting on board. I think it's. I think that's still very messed up out there from the what they've done. They've, you know there, from the what they've done, they've, you know, messed up the true raw. Why? Because the FDA doesn't want any bacteria. And you got to wonder where that's coming from. I hear it loud and clear from the vets, you know, and so that's a big push and you got your FDA there. We don't even bother to tell people, hey, bacteria is a good thing. Hey, you got to have some bacteria. And people want to talk about germs. And I really would love to do this. Challenge Brian. I would love to challenge the people that are afraid of raw to swab their you know, overall to swab their you know, I don't even know their their counters in the kitchen, maybe, versus their toothbrushes that are kept in the same room that they poop in.
Speaker 1:And they're putting that in their mouth every day. Come on, guys, it's just, it's it. To me, it's totally ridiculous, and I've never seen a dog. I don't know that you have either. We certainly do hear the accusations that it's the raw food and make it a meal, but it's usually some toxin or chemical that is the cause. How can a food that dogs were created to eat cause them to be ill? Right?
Speaker 2:I, I, I maintain that mother nature would never be that cruel.
Speaker 1:I'd be mean, I'd be very mean.
Speaker 2:You know it. It just doesn't. It doesn't make any sense. You know, here is here is what I'm giving you that has all of your, all that you need to sustain life is here. This is what I'm giving you. Oh, by the way, random pieces of it is going to make you sick and kill you. Have fun, good luck to you, sir. It just doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2:But I think the fear of bacteria from the veterinarian perspective. See, I'll give the veterinarians a small amount of credit because they're scientists, let's hear it, and they know what dogs are. Whether they admit it or say it is another thing, but they know what dogs are and they know that dogs were literally designed to eat raw meat. The bacteria is not the animal that they're concerned about, it's the people in the house. And I don't understand how people can be somehow trusted to go get raw chicken from the grocery store and bring it home and apply proper food safety and sanitation protocols with that and nobody says anything. But when it comes to raw pet food, all of a sudden everybody's stupid and they're going to be mixing their salad while they're, you know, pouring Fluffy's raw food and they're going to use the same spoon and, you know, just start eating their food without washing their hands or anything. It's like nobody does that.
Speaker 1:Well, and you know, what. Would a person even get sick? I mean, I remember the chicken challenge where the guy was eating the raw chicken. He didn't die, did he?
Speaker 2:I don't think so. I never did hear what the outcome was. I don't know. You know, I'm I'm sure that it's. It's probably intentional that you just don't hear about that story because it doesn't fit the narrative.
Speaker 1:Is that the way of the world? Come on, brian, are you making things up Like if it doesn't fit the narrative? You mean, something gets shut down when I just don't know? If that really is the case, come on Brian, what are you smoking?
Speaker 2:Yeah, hey, if, if somebody was out there doing that, I don't think that's information, that the powers to be you know, want people to easily find Right.
Speaker 1:Well, we know. We know that the raw diet because, because of our body of evidence, of all of the dogs that we see, all the dogs that we consult with and even our own dogs, is there. I have absolutely 100% trust in mother nature, as as you said, and I get comments on my dogs or my dog now constantly, right, just her behavior, what she looks like, everything. And it's usually a great door opener for me because I can say, well, here's why. But sometimes I say that and their eyes just roll back in their head or they glaze over, they don't want to hear it, and so that's fine. I'm not going to go into a big diatribe. If they ask me, why does your dog look so good? Or something like that, yeah, I'm going to tell them. But again, it could be the cost.
Speaker 1:I know you're going to come out with an article, which I'm so excited about that. Where you're really talking about is kibble actually cheaper, and so, if you guys want to read, brian does an article every single week it's called nutritionally speaking and he and he picks something and he talks about it, because he really does have his pulse on what's going on. You're one of those people, brian, that can be in all the Facebook groups, you can read all the books, you can try all the different products around the globe and you don't get anxiety. Maybe it's like a science project to you, but it makes me terribly anxious. So I don't do it anymore. I just can't. You know, I just can't Because Rick said Didi, we actually do need those customers, so try not to run them off. Because sometimes I'm just like I'm sure I don't say are you stupid? But sometimes I want to say are you stupid, why are you?
Speaker 1:doing that, right? Why is your dog having trouble walking? Because it's so fat and inflamed. And you don't want to look at something different to me. That's animal abuse. I, I feel like that's abuse. What? How do you feel about that, right, oh?
Speaker 2:absolutely. Um, yeah, the fat dogs is like that's. That's one of my biggest pet peeves, because it's literally the easiest thing that you can do to improve the health of your dog is keep them at a healthy weight, and for a population that cost is always the biggest barrier to doing anything different for your dog. Here I am telling you feed your dog less, spend less. And they still don't want to do it. And I get it.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know people. You know feeding feeding people, whether it's your dog or your family, makes you feel good. You know it's. It's why people go into the food service industry, it's why people become chefs, and so you know, constantly giving your dog food just makes you feel good. You know. And and these people, you know I hear all the time my dog time, my dog, my dog looks hungry and I'm like, well, of course he does. You know, I mean, if it doesn't matter at what point of the day, you can ask the kid does he want a mountain dew and a candy bar? And he's going to say yes, you know your dog is the same way. If you're going to give him food, you know he's, he's going to eat it. You have to be the adult in the room, the leader of the pack, and you know, I, I think, I think the article I did last week or two weeks ago, or maybe it was, maybe it was something else but we talked about, you know, the capacity of a dog's stomach is five times our capacity.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:And you know, a 35 pound dog needs approximately like 900 calories a day, but they, they could eat almost 6 000 um. So again, somebody has to be the adult in the room because if you, if you put that food, if every time they look at you you're like, oh, you must be hungry, you know um, and it won't take very long. And if you're giving them um, you know you, you can feed a dog raw and make them fat. It's going to be a lot harder um than with kibble, but um, and a lot more expensive, but you know it can happen. But if you're feeding kibble and things like that, it's not going to be very long and you're going to have that dog. And on top of that, you know your 60-pound dog. If he's 10 pounds overweight, you know 10 pounds for you and I is not that big of a deal Depends on how short you are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but for most people, you know, five or 10 pounds is, you know we all kind of carry that extra weight and it's, you know it doesn't affect us. But you know, on a 50-pound dog 10 pounds is 20% of their body weight.
Speaker 1:Too much.
Speaker 2:That's significant, and the inflammation and the joint pain and, excuse me, everything else that comes along with that. And again, it's literally the easiest thing that you can do for your dog.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is. And if you really want your dog to stay out of the $8,000 to $10,000 vet's office, then I suggest you feed them something.
Speaker 1:Now look, you know it can still happen, right, it can still happen. You know, your dog ingests something like what Lana's did, but by and large, they're going to be way healthier and live a very, very, very long life, very, very long life. Now there are some other great benefits right to feeding a raw diet, and you did an article. You introduced a dog the other day in our newsletter and again, if you guys want to get on our newsletter, brian, does these information pieces every week. Just go over to raw dog food and companycom and sign up and we'll get you on there.
Speaker 1:But would you tell us about Desi? Because Desi was a very was. Was was one of the perfect reason why you want to feed dog a raw diet and the right raw diet right. We don't want to just do a piece of meat, right. We got to do the raw diet right and that's why it's so easy to work with a company like ours, because we take the thinking out of it for you. But Desi is a 12 week old cattle dog mix and she has this I haven't heard about this in a while, brian and dogs, but she had a mild case of rickets. Okay, a mild case of rickets. So tell us why you featured Desi and first tell us to the listening audience what is rickets.
Speaker 2:Because people can get rickets too. Yeah, so rickets for dogs. It's a disease of the growth plate and it affects the skeleton of growing animals. So with dogs it's typically just seen in growing puppies and you know, symptoms usually will include just not acting like a puppy, not wanting to move, struggling to get up, bone pain, joint pain, stiffness, bow-leggedness. If you look at the picture of Desi that was in the newsletter, you can see the bow-leggedness and then of course it can lead to fractures and all sorts of things. But Desi was the second dog that a local rescue had contacted me about feeding raw. The owner of this particular rescue has time and time again seen the change that happens to these rickets dogs when they when they're fed raw.
Speaker 1:So it can change.
Speaker 2:So it can change yep, and so it's always been her go-to that if she brings in a dog and gets diagnosed with rickets she puts them on the raw diet. And we know that rescues can't do raw diets for all the dogs between the laws and the expense and all that kind of thing. But she will do it for the Ricketts dogs. And and again, she does it because she's seen the results. You know no studies, no scientific research, no vets or you know anything like that. It's pure, like I see it with my own eyes.
Speaker 2:Wait, you can't, you can't trust your lying eyes, my own eyes, wait, you can't. You can't trust your lying eyes and um, um, and so I just uh, uh, you know, I thought it was a. It was a really good opportunity to highlight, um, you know why we, why we stress BC's appropriate all the time, appropriate all the time. And to help better explain that, let's talk about what causes rickets.
Speaker 1:Rickets is.
Speaker 2:It's a mineral deficiency and it's primarily phosphorus, but it can be um. It can be calcium um. It can also be caused by an inappropriate ratio of the two um, and generally when that happens it's because of an excess of calcium um, which throws that uh, that ratio um. Another thing that can cause it is insufficient availability of activated vitamin D, which I think is why the rescue community probably sees it more than anybody, because you get a lot of these dogs. If they're in a puppy mill, some of them have never seen the outside, you know, we know that they're fed. You know inappropriate diets. But you know, and that can be kibble or that can be an inappropriate homemade diet. You know it's. One of the dangers of, you know, homemade diets is, if you don't get those ratios right, you can really cause some problems. And when you look at most homemade diets, they, they never contain bone.
Speaker 2:That's, that's the one that's the one thing that's always missing is is bone, and, and when people think of bone, they just think of calcium, and so they're like, well, I'm not going to put bone in there, but I'll, I'll get the calcium in there. And so they're like, well, I'm not going to put bone in there, but I'll get the calcium in there. And the thing about bone, the reason that bone is so amazing and the reason that nature said this is one of the things that you're going to get your stuff from is that bone contains all of the minerals that your dog needs. Every single one of them is in bone. They're duplicated. They'll be in some organs and meat as well, but they're all in the bone and they are in the perfect bioavailable form for your dog to recognize and absorb and use. The body doesn't have to figure out what they are. It knows exactly what they are and it knows exactly what to do with them.
Speaker 2:And then on top of, that they're in the perfect ratio so they work with each other in sync and you know they don't block each other and they don't inhibit absorption of you know other nutrients. If, uh, if I have to hear one more time about raw diets being deficient in zinc, I'm gonna scream um, you know raw diet, a proper raw diet, which?
Speaker 1:a proper raw diet includes meat, bones, organs that is and it has naturally occurring fat in there, which I will say fat has good vitamin d as well.
Speaker 2:Right, but I dig that yeah, yep, meat, bones, organ and fat, um it, that's a proper raw diet. If if your organ and fat, that's a proper raw diet. If your diet doesn't have bones, it's not a proper raw diet. I don't care if it's raw meat. If it doesn't have bones it's not a raw diet.
Speaker 2:A proper raw diet with bones is going to have all the zinc that your dog needs. So the problem with zinc, the reason that it's such an issue in the world, is it's these homemade diets that they're putting too much calcium in there. They're going with the AFCO standards, which are probably high to begin with, and then, because everybody thinks more is better, then they start, they want to add eggshells and they want to feed all these foods that have calcium. And when you have too much calcium, it binds to zinc and it prevents the body from absorbing the zinc. So, again, a proper raw diet with bones can't be deficient in zinc, because the calcium is the perfect ratio with the phosphorus and it's not um, it's not overriding and preventing the body from absorbing the zinc. So, like I said, if I have to hear raw diets are deficient in zinc one more time, I'm going to scream.
Speaker 1:Maybe, maybe you should. You should ask them where, where is this information coming from and how did they arrive at that? Right, and you know a lot of these groups, brian, that go out there and they have their calculators and all of their spreadsheet. Groups, brian, that go out there and they have their calculators and all of their spreadsheets. Excuse me, you know, with all of those extra supplementation in there, again, if you just feed a proper raw diet, you're not going to have problems.
Speaker 1:But I think I saw this, I'm pretty sure I saw this come through somebody, somebody you were talking to, and the comment was I think I think maybe you explained this to them and the comment was well, dogs should not have bone every day. Well, okay, are we talking about what kind of you know? Well, okay, are we talking about what kind of bone every day? I did know this one woman and she didn't feed a raw diet, but every single day she gave these giant knuckle bones to her dogs every day and eventually they were throwing up bone. So I would say they had too much bone in their diet. Up bone. So I would say they had too much bone in their diet. But would you say that? I mean there's no way just by feeding a blend that has ground up bone in it, that that is going to be too much bone for a dog.
Speaker 2:What would you say about that? Um, no, I mean the blends have 10%. Um, you know, which is the absolute. That's the baseline for a dog. Um, most dogs can handle much more than that. Um, you know, um Dr Billinghurst, you know his, his dogs, especially as puppies they're. 30-35% of the diet is bones. That guy uses raw meaty bones for everything. It's raw meaty bones and organs, because he's getting the meat off the bones as well. My dogs are probably around 15-16% bone.
Speaker 1:Lassie eats more bone. She gets beef neck bones. She gets chicken feet, she gets turkey necks, and that's in addition to the blends.
Speaker 2:Yep, you know, and of course every dog's going to be different, but you know, you just have to, you just kind of have to watch and you know I watch my dog's poops and if I think they're getting too much bone then you know, maybe they don't get the raw meaty bone that day, but they're still getting that 10% in the blend, but but yeah, I mean, but, but yeah I mean the the bone is. The bone is probably the most important part of the diet.
Speaker 1:So so what do you think about these calcium supplements that people put in there and not just eggshell, right, but they're putting in calcium supplements and thinking that that's enough or good.
Speaker 2:I think anytime you start supplementing individual nutrients like that, you're asking for trouble. You know, because, just like we talked about earlier the interaction between calcium and zinc, you know. That's why all these dogs are testing low in zinc, because they're getting too much calcium. And again, you know that my favorite thing is simplicity and keeping raw feeding simple. And when Mother Nature has done the math for you, why can't you just take that? You know? Um, you know, take the win. And why do we have to think that we need to improve on mother nature or that we need to show?
Speaker 1:that we're smarter. Um well, where do you think that that came from? Where do you think that that started Because that was not a big thing, obviously when I started feeding raw 25 years ago, right, and I can remember the big chicken backs and the whole you know livers, and we would, you know, kind of figure all that out back in the day. But did this just come about, brian, so that somebody had a product to sell, somebody had a consultation to sell?
Speaker 2:Where did this come from? Well, I think it all. I mean it all goes back to the invention of kibble. I mean, you know it's um. You know I always say that kibble was an answer to a question. Nobody was asking um, you know, dogs were doing just fine, they were. They were eating our scraps, they were, you know, getting, you know whatever, whatever was left over, you know little pieces from the table or whatever they found. You know scrounging around outside, um, you know, they were doing just fine. And then you had the. The pet food industry was born from the human processed food industry that boomed after World War II. And all of a sudden, all of this by-product from all this mass manufacturing that we were doing of you know everything, you know food appliances, all that kind of stuff, all those by-products, a lot of them couldn't be put in landfills, and so the pet food industry came along and said hey, give them to us, we'll make pet food out of it.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's go back to what you just said. It couldn't be put in landfills because why it was so toxic?
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, the landfills wouldn't even accept it. Um, and so the pet food industry said hey, we can take it, you know, we can process it, we can refine it, we can do all these things, and then we'll put it into, you know, pet food.
Speaker 1:Were these people that just hated pets. They hated cats and dogs. I mean my gosh.
Speaker 2:Well I mean, but you had a whole, you know, not only once you invented kibble, you know. Now you had to convince people to feed it. And what did they do? They got the vets to start telling people that people food was dangerous. Don't feed your dog, people food. I know you remember that. Oh sure, I'm sure you probably I mean you still have vets today will say you know, dogs shouldn't eat people food You're like oh my gosh, I should eat it, I, I should eat it, but my pet shouldn't that's and yeah, my, my answer to that is always like well, what is people food?
Speaker 1:you know we're talking processed people, food or real?
Speaker 2:people food, isn't it just food? Um, you know? And and why are cats and dogs the only ones that have their own food? There's no bear food. There's no snake food, you know. Go to Petco and find me a bag of snake food.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go next time and I'm going to say do you have any bear food? There's got to be AFCO approved bear food. Or how about elk food? Because I have a herd of a hundred. I had to stop my car the other day in evergreen so the hundred of them could walk across the road I they needed some food.
Speaker 2:I think they were looking for the nearest petco and for the deer food or the the elk food that's a great point so, um, but again, you know big marketing and and a lot of influence, um, and, and you have people that you know. Even today, they still believe that it's dangerous to um, you know, to feed your dogs real food um, you know what?
Speaker 1:here's what drives me crazy, brian. They won't test it out. You're like have you ever fed your dog real food? You said of switching to the raw diet and, by the way, she loves the rabbit and tripe blend Okay, the stinky blend with fur. You said that Dizzy started moving better, she started acting like the puppy she is. She had more energy and basically it's a sign that the vitamins and minerals and nutrients that you were talking about were getting into her body.
Speaker 1:But but that must be terribly dangerous to have a dog that starts acting and feeling better. Brian, they must be on debt and ready to die, right? They're acting so good that it's so dangerous. They're probably gonna, you know, just collapse in the next week of the rabbit and tripe. This is just insanity. What's happened to our little brains, brian? What's? It's marketing, right, you did it. The big, big, big marketing, right, you could sell a leather shoe. Well, look at oh roy, oh roy is like a leather shoe, and. And look at O'Roy, o'roy is like a leather shoe, and, and. And they're still in business. And that makes my, my heart hurt and my and my sphincter too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's amazing and and you know and I love you know, this is the second dog with this rescue that we've, that we've helped with with the food and it. You know, the story just makes my heart feel so good because you've got people that don't know anything about the raw diet. They know that some people do it and whatnot, but they don't know any of the ins and outs. But here they look at a dog that you know is a brand new dog, within days of you know, of going on. You know the raw diet and you know how desperate was her little body for those nutrients.
Speaker 2:You know to see that kind of a change that quickly. You know and that and that also goes to you know we. You know I don't think people always understand what we mean when we talk about bioavailability. You know, and, and and Desi's a perfect example, because you know you don't get that fast of results if the body has to figure out what it's eaten and what it is well, if it has no nutrients in it, I mean, you're just gonna gobble it down and poop it out and, you know, still feel like crap and the body body is.
Speaker 1:But but this was a good example because you can actually see how the the body was deformed due to bad nutrition and then, after she got the proper nutrition, how she she perked up. Now I'm not saying that her bow legs became straight right but well, not right away.
Speaker 2:But, um, you know, I think that you know, I think her case was probably mild enough and they probably caught it soon enough. That you know, I bet you in in a couple of years or when she's fully grown. You probably would never know.
Speaker 1:Man, I sure would like to be able to follow that. Now let me ask you a question before we go on on this rescue, brian, the rescue that adopted it out and then informed the parents of what they could do to help the dog, and that's how that came about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the rescue, so this particular rescue works with. They work with a couple of shelters, but primarily they work with a shelter in New Mexico that deals with a lot of reservation dogs. So down there in New Mexico you've got a lot of a lot of reservation land and and these dogs have it rough, you know. I mean, most of them have never a lot of them never even seen a home. You know they're just roaming, you know roaming the land.
Speaker 2:But yeah, the rescue they call it tagging and what it is is. You know the shelters will send out lists of dogs that are in the shelter that need to be moved or else they're going to be euthanized for space, and the rescues will tag them, bring them to places like Colorado and then try to get them adopted. So Desi is currently in a foster home and it's the foster that is, you know, feeding the raw food, and then you know that information will be passed on, you know, to the adopters, you know who will, hopefully, you know, continue the, the, the diet, although I don't I don't always hold my breath. So right.
Speaker 2:Right, you know, I I used to foster for that, that same rescue and and every single foster that I had, I fed a raw diet and I never had. I never had an adopter continue. I had a couple that would do it for a couple weeks, but most of them would tail off.
Speaker 1:So they just thought substandard nutrition was good enough. Right, look, you can be half well, okay, or you can be partially unwell, but yeah, it's just too expensive for you to be fully well, okay. It's just sorry, sorry puppy, sorry Des, but we do have some great, great customers out there, great pet parents, um, and they understand again that, for long term, right, you may pay more money up front. It's just like you and me. Do you think that you can eat processed foods and be well longer than you can? On real food, well, the people in the cancer industry would say, no, eat real food and do your best to find clean, real food, right, that's still an issue as well. But well, brian, listen, we are so excited that you're going to be a permanent fixture and I know you've got one more comment there a permanent fixture on the raw dog food podcast. Uh, so we're all excited about that. What were you going to say?
Speaker 2:Oh I, I wanted to just make one more point. Um with with Desi and and and the puppies. Um, one of the comments that I hear fairly often is and I've heard this from people who are raw feeders that believe in raw I have to feed my puppy kibble so that he can get all of his nutrients, and as soon as he's an adult I'll switch him to raw.
Speaker 1:I do say that sometimes, when I go get my ice cream, you know and I'll say I've got. I've just I've got to eat this ice cream to get all my nutrients, don't you know?
Speaker 2:And you know, and again I think that you know examples like Desi completely blow that that theory out of the water. Um, you know the, the raw diet again, a proper species, appropriate raw diet that includes meat, bones, organ and fat, gives your dog, whether they're a puppy or they're a senior, gives them all of the nutrition that they need. And that's the only way to guarantee that your dog is going to get everything they need is to feed them as nature intended. If, if Desi's experience doesn't, you know, kill that rumor, I don't know what, whatever will. Um, but you know your puppy does not need, uh, what do you call it? Cakes, cookies and chemicals. Cakes, cookies and chemicals. Cakes, cookies and chemicals. Your puppy does not need those things to get their nutrition.
Speaker 1:And if raw is good enough for your adult dog, it's good enough for your puppy. As soon as you get them off the teat, pull them right out that teat, put them in a bowl of raw food, watch them grow and not grow too fast like they do on that other crap. Okay, they're going to grow at a proper rate, they're going to be happy, they're going to be healthy and you're going to have that dog for life. So, listen, get over to rawdogfoodandcompanycom. Brian is sitting there just waiting to do a consult with you. He's just waiting. He's just waiting. You can fill out the form. If you're confused, brian's going to help you. We you fill out the form. If you're confused, brian's going to help you.
Speaker 1:We've got some new products that we're going to talk about on the next podcast, but with the MycoDog the products that we just got coming in, and we're always Brian is always, you know, looking around to see what is the best thing for your pets, what is the healthiest thing for your pets. But he's there. You'll see his picture with Riley and they're going to be there to help you get the best species appropriate diet for your dog. Okay, so get over to rawdogfoodandcompanycom, where your pet's health is our business. And what Brian?
Speaker 2:Friends. Don't let friends feed kibble or cakes, cookies and companycom where your pet's health is our business. And what?
Speaker 1:Brian, friends don't let friends feed kibble. Or cakes, cookies and chemicals. Okay, that was a little long, so we just we just said kibble. Okay, all right, everybody, we'll see you soon, bye-bye. Oh snap, find out how you can start your dog on the road to health and longevity. Go to rawdogfoodandcompanycom, where friends don't let friends feed kibble and where your pet's health is our business. Just snap.
