The Raw Dog Food Truth

Are You Poisoning Your Pet Without Realizing It?

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Ever wonder why the pet food industry makes feeding your dog or cat seem so complicated? This eye-opening conversation between DeDe Murcer-Moffett and Dr. Judy Jasek cuts through the noise to reveal a simple truth: your pet was designed to eat raw, unprocessed food.

We dive into the everyday toxins potentially harming your pet that most owners never consider. From chlorinated tap water causing skin issues to chemical pest treatments slowly poisoning your furry companions, these hidden dangers deserve your attention. Dr. Jasek shares her personal approach to creating a healthier environment, including whole-house water filtration systems and natural alternatives to chemical herbicides that actually improve soil health rather than destroy it.

The most provocative portion of our discussion challenges the fundamental contradictions in conventional veterinary nutrition advice. How can highly processed foods with unpronounceable ingredients possibly be healthier than the diet dogs and cats evolved to eat over thousands of years? We address the common concern about bacteria in raw food with a simple observation: dogs regularly engage in behaviors like coprophagia (eating feces) without issue, yet we're meant to believe clean, properly handled raw meat poses a danger to them?

Raw feeding doesn't require complicated recipes or precise calculations. The natural simplicity of meat, bones, and organs from varied species provides exactly what your carnivorous companions need. When veterinarians make claims against species-appropriate nutrition, we encourage you to keep asking questions until you get satisfactory answers - or revealing non-answers.

Ready to transform your pet's health with simple, natural nutrition? Visit rawdogfoodandcompany.com for guidance on transitioning to species-appropriate feeding, and don't miss our weekly Yappy Hour every Wednesday from 4pm to midnight for special deals on quality raw products!

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Speaker 1:

Oh, snap, snap. Well, hello, raw Feeders. I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceo of a Raw Dog Food and Company where your pet's health is our business, and we're friends, like my friend, dr Judy Jasik, just like friends feed kibble, but you're still friends with them. You know we talked about this. We don't like, dislike you. We're gonna give you the information. What you do with that, it's your business, right, dr Jasek? That's right.

Speaker 2:

I mean, we can't make people feed a certain thing. If they don't want to feed it, we can just tell them what's going to happen when they don't feed their pets good, good diet. But if they want to feed it and fall for all the marketing things, well that's. That's all we can do, because it's just a lot. It's. It's. It's hard. Well, you can't really convince people, but we spend a lot of time putting this information out there and when you're just keep saying this stuff to people that really aren't going to change what they're doing anyway, it's a waste of our energy, so I look at it as somebody who really wants to learn, truly learn, Like I want to feed my pet, just that I'll talk to them for however long it takes hours because they really want to do it and it's about what keeps their pet being healthy and it's about what keeps their pet being healthy.

Speaker 2:

But when I, you know, realize that somebody that there's always when there's always a reason why raw won't work, and they haven't even really tried it, they're not going to feed raw Right, so we're wasting our time and energy.

Speaker 1:

Great Cakes, cookies and chemicals, I don't know. Sounds like a good diet for a dog to me. All right, hey. On that serious note for a dog to me, all right. Hey, we. We did get a question, though, about the herbicide that you talked about last week, and it's called fire hawk guys, fire hawk bio herbicide. Okay, and I'm going to get some of this too, dr Jacek, and you were saying that it's safe for pets and it causes these weeds to sort of just dehydrate, and without chemicals, so I like it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like it's some sort of organic acid, of organic acid that is not toxic and it it just. It like removes, like the waxy coating on the leaves, so that the plants, that the plants actually dehydrate.

Speaker 2:

And I think on the website there's a lot of information about it and and they and they actually tested the soil. The other thing that's cool. So a lot of your herbicides also destroy the microbiome in the soil. So to have healthy plants, you want a good microbiome in the soil, just like in us. A good microbiome is important and a lot of these chemicals actually destroy that. But this because it basically is just killing the plants naturally because it's dehydrating them. The plants still decompose it, so it actually improves soil health. So, yeah, I got some. We're in the process of moving so I haven't tried it yet, but when we get to our next place I'm definitely going to be trying it.

Speaker 1:

So you're on the road again. Now you're moving to another place, which is awesome, awesome. You know, guys, here's the thing If some place doesn't work for you in life, you got to move on, right? There's a lot of people that kind of hang out and do the same thing over and over again. They don't like what they do. That's not us, right, we're going to. We're going to move on, but you're going to. You're moving to another part of Tennessee, and that's awesome. We've also talked about that. You're looking at really providing some holistic options for folks out there, so they should stay tuned to that. I think this is so nice if you open up some facilities where people can actually go get blood work, get a lot of things done that they can't get done in traditional veterinary medicine, so that's going to be very exciting. I think you're going to be super busy.

Speaker 2:

Maybe more busy than than I want to be, but but it's going to be, um, you know, just isolated things that I think we can do, um, that that people really need that will really benefit pets, that they don't have to, you know, obviously get a vaccine or something you know to come in for. Because I think, yeah, we were talking about pet health is really about wellness you feed them right, you stop poisoning them, and if you know they could get some there without it mandating, you know, without having vaccines mandated, then you know they could get some basic care. And again, I think it's the education. I think people just need to know what to do to keep their pet healthy and then they, you know, have the option of doing that. If people don't do what we recommend, well, and that's their business.

Speaker 2:

But I think a lot of times. There's so much confusing information out there that people aren't sure what to do to keep their pet healthy and they just need a little support that say, yes, this is the right way to go. So, because the body knows how to be healthy our bodies and our pets bodies we just have to stop poisoning them and give them the right nutritional tools to stay healthy. And it's really that simple.

Speaker 1:

You know I what is it about? I mean, I get it. People are like I don't want fleas, I don't want even one flea. But you know what, dr Jasek? I mean I get it, but you don't want to be poisoning your pet. You just don't want to be doing that. And I don't know how in the world you're going to be able to not poison your pet if you use the standard stuff.

Speaker 2:

How are you going to do that If you use the standard stuff, how are you going to do that? No, you can't. And the natural stuff it's. It's more of a process, you know, because natural things don't kill things very efficiently. So if you've got an issue with fleas in particular, you know you've got to do stuff for for a while. You know the essential oil sprays and you got to repeat them or put diatomaceous earth around your house and I think there are, like natural, what they call bombs for your house. We have fog on fog your house. I think there's some natural ones that use. They don't use a lot of chemicals, they use more of the essential oil sprays and stuff to help get the fleas out. But you have to do more stuff to get rid of them.

Speaker 1:

I remember I had fleas in my house.

Speaker 2:

This was quite a few years ago, maybe 15 or more years ago and um, I started finding fleas. I figured just came in with the wildlife and there was just no way I was going to use those chemicals. And so I did essential oils and I mean, I feel them in my hair, I'd be in bed and I'd feel it Not, not, not, not fun, but like there's just no way I'm using those chemicals.

Speaker 2:

So I'd spray down my pillow with the essential oil sprays and spray around the house and keep washing the bedding and you just keep after it. I mean, it probably took a couple of months to completely get rid of them, but but I did. So you just have to kind of stay after.

Speaker 1:

You just have to decide that it's worth being a little inconvenienced to not poison your pet. Come on now. You know, is it really that dangerous to poison your pet? Is it? Is it, dr Daisy? Come on now. Is it just a little bit of poison, okay?

Speaker 2:

is it, dr jason? Come on now. Is it just a little bit of poison? Okay, I wouldn't want to poison my pet a little bit, I don't.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't want to poison myself even just a little bit, so you wouldn't you know, I was listening to who's I listened to the other day and they were talking about maybe it was dr paul saladino and he was talking about these pesticides on golf courses. And he was talking about these pesticides on golf courses and he was saying you know what? What he believes and what some of the research is showing is that it's getting in the water. Right, it's getting in in the water, some people are drinking the water. And he was saying what's interesting is that these golfers aren't necessarily getting sick, but that's why you should not drink like city water, right, oh yeah, and and that sort of thing. But I thought that was very interesting.

Speaker 1:

And and do people realize, a lot of times when they're filling up the water bowl, they're doing it from the spout Right, and their dogs are drinking all these chemicals? Certainly, we don't. We get, we get our water delivered in glass and um, but I, I just you. You gotta really be conscious of what is going in your dog. So if you're doing flea and tick and doing heartworm, these are two toxins right there, two poisons, and then you're, you're having them drink city water or water. Let's say you're, you know these different places that put water out for dogs. Yeah, where's that water coming from?

Speaker 1:

I think it's you gotta be conscious of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and like the outside, you know, host pickets and stuff. People have a dish outside, pools for dogs, a lot of people have swimming pools, like all that stuff that comes out of your house. If your house is on city water unless you've got your own, well, all your hoses and everything that's all um, that's all contaminated with who knows what, what chemicals we actually haven't. We'll do this be one of the first things we do. In our new house. We put in a whole house filter and they're a little expensive, but I just feel that strongly about our health and it's important that. Like you know bathing. So if any of you like for us showering, you know you let all those chemicals get loose in the steam in your shower and then your pores open up as it's warm and it's absorbed through your skin. And then the same thing with your pet, if you're. If you're bathing your pet. I've actually seen pets like itchy skin get better when they were bathed in water that was filtered so it had no chlorine in it.

Speaker 2:

I know, I'm really sensitive to chlorine, like I can't stand smelling it or I mean it just really bothers my skin and stuff, and I think that can be a big contributing factor. So, yeah, we will put a whole house filter on our house so that our showers and everything is filtered, and then our drinking water. We filter it again, so we do reverse osmosis, so we make sure our drinking water is really clean and then out, like in my garden, um, cause that comes in, you know, through the city, city water too, but it's not hooked up to the house. I, you can buy these filters. They use them in RVs, recreational vehicles and this, just this filter. You just screw right into your hose and it filters the water as it goes to the hose before it waters your plants, cause you don't want to be watering the plants in your garden with chlorine and fluoride and antidepressants and antibiotics and all this stuff right, or people are peeing out.

Speaker 1:

you know, I know it's it's just, it's just crazy. But we can drive ourselves crazy with all of this stuff. But I think if you take the big steps right, like what are you eating? Are you eating processed foods? Right, I don't think that you eat processed foods, dr Jasek. So what is a processed food, guys? Anything that's been changed from its natural, natural origin, right. So bread, right, is processed, and cupcakes, cookies, cereals, all of that kind of stuff is just so processed. And I don't understand how the veterinary world can sell that extremely processed food and then put a name like prescription on it. I mean, it is totally and completely false advertising.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely Anything. You don't know what I mean. Read the actual ingredients, not the marketing, not just because it says it's natural or it's good for joint health and it gives a healthy, you know, shiny coat, but read the actual ingredients. If there's anything in there, you don't know what it is like. Soy lecithin, I don't know what soy lecithin is, something processed out of soy, evidently, but I don't know what it is Corn gluten meal, hydrolyzed soy protein. I mean, if you don't know what that stuff is, if you don't know what any of those ingredients are, they're processed and you shouldn't feed them. It should say beef and liver and heart and kidney and spleen and bone. Everybody knows what those are, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and, and you know the biggest thing, obviously the biggest question that comes up is can my dog get sick from eating raw meat? Right, and the question is what kind of sickness are we talking about? Is it harmful bacteria? Okay, what is harmful bacteria? And where is the documentation that right? So people are going to worry about salmonella, and you know a dog and a cat's digestive system is created to handle bacteria with this. You know intestinal flora, the high acidic stomach, the natural enzymes. It's going to help them process the food that they were created to eat. So how is it that you know these dogs were created, or cats are created, to eat raw, not cooked, dr Jasek, not cooked, not freeze, dried, in reality, and certainly not processed? How is it that they are going to get sick from the food that they are physically created to eat?

Speaker 2:

And especially when it's so clean, coming from these companies. I mean, dr Scavengers, they could find roadkill and eat it and probably be fine. I was listening to this podcast.

Speaker 2:

This woman that's she's done all this wilderness survival training and stuff and she teaches like what she calls human skills, but it's like living off the land kind of stuff. She picks up roadkill and brings it home and prepares it for her family. And at first that kind of took me back and she's like, but she's like, no, really Like, if I see a deer get hit on the road or she knows enough, she knows how to check it. If it's still warm she'll take it home. And she said one Christmas she like found a deer right before Christmas and she made sausage and like, like that was part of her Christmas gifts for everybody. This roadkill killed deer sausage. But she's like, why are we letting that food go to waste? She's like you know, all my friends go to the grocery store and buy so-called meat and they don't even know what they're getting. I know what I'm eating. It's a deer and she knows how to. You know, you got to know how to process it properly.

Speaker 2:

But, could you imagine? I mean, what do you think your customers would say if you said you put roadkill?

Speaker 1:

They totally freak. Do you know that in Colorado and I don't know if it's this way everywhere, because I haven't looked at it, but you cannot? Ok, let's just say, because there's tons of elk where I live and I'm talking about, it will stop traffic and hundreds of them will walk across the street. Obviously, some of them get hit right, because they'll get out there at night and people don't see them. You can't just, even if I think you're the one that hits it, you cannot unless you have a tag. You have some sort of a legal way that you can say yeah, a hunting tag. Let's just say that you can't just stop on the side of the road and take it. The police will get you, isn't?

Speaker 2:

that silly.

Speaker 1:

And I don't know yeah, and I don't know yeah, and lots of laws that don't make sense yeah, and I don't know if it's that everything is carried so far out because somebody who has no sense does something stupid. I don't know if it's because they're like, hey, I don't want somebody just hitting an animal on purpose so they can go out and feed it to their family. I don't know if that's why they do it, but clearly, if an animal has been hit on the road, should you as a human being get in trouble for going and pulling it off the road and seems like it would be doing a service and getting it off the side of the road.

Speaker 2:

It's not otherwise, you just lay there and rot. I mean, here it feeds the vultures. We have so many vultures here, but you know they clean up the roadkill. Yeah, yeah, that's what they do. But like why? It's just from a practicality standpoint, why not? I mean, an animal just lost its life. You know, to me it's honoring the animal if it's, if its life has some purpose and the meat gets eaten. I mean, in nature, like you know, it goes to there probably be other critters come up and eat it, like the vultures or foxes or coyotes or whatever.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, what's wrong with we're're so far removed? I think. I think part of it too is like we're so far removed from where where food comes from. Like the hamburgers don't come from McDonald's or the grocery store, you know they come from a cow. That cow has to get killed, you know, and and processed in a processing plant for it to show up as hamburger at McDonald's or in the grocery store. I think people are so far removed from where their food actually comes from. They just like's rummy, right, but you know I think.

Speaker 1:

I think a lot of this comes from people who need something to talk about that's and and need to assert their authority, and what I mean by that is people in our industry make up this stuff about oh you, you, you can't feed your dog this and you can't feed your dog that, right in our, in our world, in the raw world. Think about these recipes, dr JC, that are coming from some of the superstars right in the in the raw feeding industry. Do you really need these complicated recipes that make no sense? It's really super simple Meat, bones, organ and fat, different species, turkey duck chicken pork yeah.

Speaker 1:

And and make sure that you've got that species bones and that species organs and that species meat Right and move it around. Don't get hung up just on turkey or chicken.

Speaker 2:

Feed the brains and the testicles, and all that Right.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, right, but this industry, people want recipes and it's like what, what, what? What are we trying to do here? And that goes back to the micromanaging of the vitamins and minerals, right? Well, first of all, if you're going to micromanage them, micromanage them. Do you know all of the vitamins, minerals, every single one of them, that are in meat, bones, organ and fat? Do you know which ones your dog is lacking? Do you know, if you combine this and this, how that's going to synergistically work? I mean, there's so much of it that you cannot know. We don't even know it about our own food. How can you know it about a dog? What we replicate why this diet came about, was because we know they're descendants, they're the ancestors of the wolf and the dingo, and neither one of those species eat cooked. They don't eat freeze-dried and they don't worry about all these little different vitamins and minerals.

Speaker 2:

They have trouble building fires because they don't have opposable thumbs to cook their food. You know they can't build the fires to cook their food.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, right. So I get it that some people want to make it really complicated, but what I think about that complication? It causes them to go back to an inferior product, which is kibble.

Speaker 2:

I think there's a lot of anthropomorphizing, because, you know, when humans cook, they typically go to a cookbook and get a recipe you know, and then they follow all the instructions on the recipe. I think they're used to that and I think, like what you were saying about, like we don't know what's actually like, what are all the vitamins and minerals and nutrients in meat? People don't know. Because what people will say to me well, like, how is the diet complete if I'm just feeding meat? Like I think they think it's just protein. I think what people sometimes think is like, well, I'm just feeding, and they they'll say this, even though they're feeding a blend like yours Well, if I'm just feeding meat, then all I'm feeding is protein, like it has no other nutritional value. And so then I'll say, well, first of all, it's got these organs in there and it's got the bone and all that, so that's adding nutrition.

Speaker 2:

And even the muscle meat has a whole host of nutrients. Even the muscle meat has a whole host of nutrients. It's not just protein, because people, how can a diet that's a hundred percent protein be healthy? It's like, wow, it's not protein, you know. So I think you're like you said people have no idea what the actual nutrient content in meat is yeah, and.

Speaker 1:

And yes, we need bones, yes, we need organs, yes, we need variety. And other than that, guys, it's really super simple. It's just simple, and I would say keep it simple so that you don't get frustrated and you're not tempted to go back to feeding cakes, cookies and chemicals. Right, we have a choice whether we're going to eat cakes, cookies and chemicals or not. Right, if you go down and you get you some cupcakes and those cookies, even if you're buying them at Sprouts, it's still chemicals and processing. We do have a choice. Our dogs don't have a choice, because we are the one paying for that and bringing it home, putting it in their bowl. So I'm hoping that we can honor what these animals are and if anyone says they have evolved to eat processed foods, please ask them to explain that and then give that explanation to us. We would love to hear it. Tell us how.

Speaker 2:

It's literally impossible, I mean really, for any species to evolve to eat processed food, because it's not a natural food. Our natural foods have to come from nature. You know, how does, how does how does any species, how could it adapt to a processed food? I mean, there's just, there's just no way, because it's so unnatural. The only foods that are natural for any species come from nature. For cows and horses it's grass, and for us it's more of the only foods that are natural for any species come from nature. For cows and horses it's grass, and for us it's more of a mix, because we're more omnivores, and for dogs and cats it's meat, bones and organs.

Speaker 1:

And I would say it like this they haven't evolved to eat processed foods. They've been pushed. They haven't been given a choice, like you said yeah, and you know, I like I go back to that little vet tech who said this to me and she said not all dogs can eat raw. And my question is why? Well, because their guts just can't take it. And my question is why? Right?

Speaker 2:

because they've been poisoned with all of your drugs that you're giving think about this.

Speaker 1:

They're, they're eating, they're that when they when they're suckling on their mom's teeth. That's not processed, that's real food. So we're going to come off the mom's teeth and then we're going to go to a processed food that's been fortified, that's been created. And has it been created? If you look at the test and what's in it and then how they do the feeding trials, it's been created. Number one it's just not real. But how did we test it to make sure that this created synthetic cake cookies and chemicals is good for the dog, right? How did we come to that, or can?

Speaker 2:

you even like. Can they even absorb those nutrients? They give this list, this multivitamin. That's like vitamin spray they put on these foods. Got this nice list of nutrients but how do you know any of that's even getting into the tissues? It just looks pretty on the paper but you have no idea that if it's even getting in there and benefiting the dog and I would contend that it's not, because that's why we see dogs get so much healthier when they change from a processed food to to a raw food diet.

Speaker 1:

You know, I just, I just love the the ladder of questions, right? So if you just keep asking the question well, how is that determined? How did you come to that? How did you figure that out? Where are the tests that show that? Right, that they will get frustrated. The veterinary industry will get frustrated before they will answer your question, will get frustrated before they will answer your question.

Speaker 1:

How did, how is it that a diet that has these ingredients, right, just take, go go, grab you a bag off the internet. Don't grab it and take it home, but look at the ingredients, look up what those ingredients are and you're going to see that they're not something that your animals should have in their body. And the next time that a vet says, hey, your dog has kidney issues, it needs to eat this, you want to ask the question how is it that these synthetics that the kidneys have to process are good for them? How did that come to be? Why wouldn't a dog or cat be on a highly highest digestibility factor in food Moisture? Food moisture rich, no synthetics. How is it that? That is scary.

Speaker 2:

And bad. It's going to make kidney disease worse and liver disease makes everything worse.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, how did that come to be? So we have to snap out of it, we have to think, we have to ask the questions and don't let them get by with the non-answers.

Speaker 2:

Good, keep asking questions. I love it. I tell people that all the time, just keep asking them so that when they say, well, I think the raw food is making your dog sick, well, why? Oh, because of the bacteria. Well, which bacteria? And how do you know that? That that those bacteria a were in the food I fed my dog? Because you haven't tested it. And how do you know that that that bacteria is making my dog sick? Cause, if you test it to see if that's the same bacteria, if you keep asking questions, it makes absolutely no sense and it will back them in a corner and they won't. They won't like it. But I think it's kind of a funny exercise. I sometimes like to just go into one of these vet clinics and ask questions. You know just somebody that doesn't know me asking questions. I think it'd be kind of fun. You should start a show.

Speaker 1:

I think it would be so funny undercover vet, you know, and and just it would be hilarious, especially if you could have some sort of like creative people that change your nose, give you a wig so that you know you look different every time, and I but you would have to pay so much money just to go in and and I don't know if they would even talk to you unless you walked in with the pet, but it would be hilarious. It would be hilarious. See, there I'm coming up with ideas for you.

Speaker 1:

There's my next business model, right, right, I would. I would love to do that. I think that that that this you know, they've got the like cheaters the cheater shows and all this kind of stuff. Got the like, uh, cheaters, the cheater shows and all this kind of stuff, and it would be so funny to really be able to go in um and question them and watch them squirm yeah, like you see what my pet to have a rabies shot have you had your rabies? Shot, you know when did you have your last rabies shot?

Speaker 2:

like if the rabies shots are so good, why, why, why does my pet have to have them? Because? If you've got ears and they're so great, you should be protected, right. You know, and then and then, okay, so you want to give this rabies shot, but you might go and get that package insert and I'd like to sit down and go over it with you and see if there's any health risks to my pet that you have not informed me of.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, I mean, I had so much fun doing that. Yeah, it is crazy. It is crazy. Well, you guys, it's super easy to feed a raw diet. Okay, don't let it get complicated. I get it that sometimes dogs get into things. Maybe they have loose stools, maybe they need more bone, but it is a simple tweak. Right, it is a simple tweak.

Speaker 1:

I'm not sure where the idea came from that these pure raw diets have excessive amounts of bacteria in them when your dog licks their butts and so many dogs have chlorophagia where they just eat crap all the time, right, and somebody was telling me the other day they were like I literally have to run outside and pick up my other dog's poop before my other dog runs over to eat it. Okay, now they this, this particular dog has been doing that his entire life and yet and we have many dogs that do that you know whether they're bored or whether it's just they like it. I have no idea, right, but they're not dead, they're not sick and they're eating poop. So how is it that they can't eat a diet that they were meant to eat? What is so scary about it? What is so dirty? What is so bacteria filled? And, dr Jasek, if you get that name. What's the name of the podcast that this woman teaches people how to get roadkill?

Speaker 2:

teaches people how to get roadkill. Oh, it's on it's on.

Speaker 1:

Alex Zach you know, alex Zach the way forward.

Speaker 2:

The way forward it's like the last one I can't think of her name but it's like the very last interview that he did. So it's like the last issue of his podcast that I've been listening to. It's, it's very good. I I'll send you the link. You can post it if you want, but it's, it's really interesting. I'm just like partway into it. Cause it's interesting?

Speaker 2:

Cause she said she started out, you know, seeing what's going on in the world and wanting to be prepared for her family. So she started doing the like, you know, survival meals. So you buy these, you know these freeze dried foods and stuff that she goes, oh, bunch of process crap, you know, I mean, okay, we'd keep you alive if you couldn't go to the grocery store, but it's still not a lot of healthy stuff in some of those freeze-dried meals. So she decided that, well, and then she got to a point in her life where she had lost her job and she didn't have a lot of money and she said, you know, I could learn. And she met a guy that taught her to fish and she's like I can learn to live off the land and that sort of became her passion.

Speaker 2:

So she knows how to forage for plants. I think she does. I haven't finished listening to him. I think she does some stuff with herbs, fishing, hunting, you know she's like, if you know how to live off the land, you can survive anywhere, you know. So it's, it's pretty interesting, interesting concept. But yeah, I'll send you the link.

Speaker 1:

Make sure you don't feed death cap mushrooms. You know it's so funny. Neely and I did a podcast years ago on death cap mushrooms and now there's a podcast out about this woman named Erin Peterson. Now there's a podcast out about this woman named Erin Peterson, who she's in Australia, I believe, and she killed like three people in her family, or allegedly, but it's because she got these death cap mushrooms and put it in their food, invited them all to lunch.

Speaker 2:

And she was really. She knew, she knew she was poisoning them.

Speaker 1:

Well, you have to listen to the entire story. It does appear that she knew that because she called them to lunch under false pretenses, right Like, oh, I have cancer. She never had cancer, she never even had it diagnosed, and just all these things that she did. I think next week it's actually going to, you know it's it's going to be in the jury's hands and they're going to decide whether she actually but it was her. She was separated from her husband, was mad at him. They have these texts that have derogatory remarks about his family and I think it was Beef Wellington that she put it in, but it's just. All of this evidence really looks against her. Three people Three people I believe died because it was her the father, the ex-husband's parents and somebody else.

Speaker 1:

Or death cap mushrooms. Avoid those. Yeah, yeah, we want to avoid those and I think they have a yellow tinge to them. But I remember we were talking about can you feed your dogs mushrooms? And Neely said, not death cap mushrooms, and you know you want to make sure what kind of mushrooms are growing outside because some of them are very poisonous. But, yeah, it's, if you guys look up this podcast, it's it's like there's several like the mushroom cook and the mushroom diary, but the person's name is Aaron Peterson and, yeah, death cap mushrooms Interesting.

Speaker 2:

I'd like to learn more about like feeling good about identifying them, because some of them even the really poisonous ones and the okay ones they look pretty similar. You gotta know what you're doing, so, but we have mushrooms gone all over the place here in Tennessee because it's so humid, and so I'd love to know, learn more about that. You know, maybe, maybe, once we get moved in our new house, I'll I'll find somebody to you know, teach me more about that, or find a class or something, or grow my own.

Speaker 2:

You just buy the spores and then inoculate it into logs or sawdust or something like that. They're supposed to be pretty easy. Yeah, mush, yeah, mushroom production.

Speaker 1:

And then there you go. There you go. Not the poisonous kind, okay, all right, everybody, thanks so much for listening to the raw dog food truth. Remember that we have yappy hour every week and that's where we put a lot of things on sale because, you know, we just like to give you guys the opportunity to get more of the good stuff at a lower cost, and that's on Wednesdays from 4 pm until midnight. You just hit our sale page and you can get that. Also, remember, brian is there going to give you a free consultation if you need some advice on why you shouldn't cook or you want to move from a cooked product over to a species appropriate. I think you're going to see great, great things happen when you actually feed your dog and cat what they were created to eat. It's a novel concept, dr Jasek.

Speaker 1:

It's the one that we've been doing for about 25 years, so anyway, You'd think it'd be common sense.

Speaker 2:

But would Mark Twain say, common sense is not so common.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think we've seen that in today's world. So if you want to work with Dr Jasek's team, it's easy, just go to ahavetcom. Ahavetcom, all right, everybody, get over to Raw Dog Food. And companycom, where your pet's health is our business. And what Dr BASIC, where friends don't let friends feed, kibble y'all. That's right. We'll see you soon, everybody. Bye, bye.

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Oh snap.

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