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The Raw Dog Food Truth
Pets with allergies, skin issues gut issues, and behavior issues can live better lives by eating a species-appropriate diet. Find out the dangers of kibble and cooked foods. Your Pet's Health Is Our Business "Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble"
The Raw Dog Food Truth
Why Suppressing Symptoms Could Be Killing Your Dog
We dive into the misguided trend of vegetarian and vegan diets for carnivores and the overcomplicated approach to pet nutrition that emphasizes micronutrient counting over species-appropriate feeding.
• Discussing the absurdity of feeding vegetarian diets to carnivores, despite dogs' biological design for meat consumption
• Examining how some veterinarians obsess over specific nutrient values like selenium while missing the bigger nutritional picture
• Exploring how hospital treatments often compromise already sick animals with excessive medications and interventions
• Warning about Cytopoint and other immunosuppressive treatments that mask symptoms without addressing root causes
• Explaining how proper raw diets naturally regulate urinary pH and prevent crystal formation
• Demystifying weight management on raw diets - simple adjustments work without complex calculations
• Emphasizing the simplicity of species-appropriate nutrition over complicated feeding protocols
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Speaker 2:Well, hello Raw Feeders. I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceo of Raw Dog Food Company, where your pet's health is our business and we're friends, like my friend Dr Judy Jasek out there in Tennessee. Well, she doesn't let friends feed kibble, or even her enemies. Because that's how kind and wonderful you are. Yeah, because they care about the animals.
Speaker 1:Right, Right, Right yeah. And we don't let pets people feed vegetarian diets either.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, Dr Jason. What is up with this? Why do people think that a carnivore would eat a vegetarian diet? How I have. I'm befuddled.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me too. And this. This was a new client that came in and she evidently did not read any of our information or watch any of our videos, because we're very clear that we recommend a species appropriate diet. And she got on with Karen, our nutritionist, and right away said I absolutely will not feed my dog meat. And Karen said well then I guess we don't have anything to talk about, so I guess we can call this over.
Speaker 2:I guess and see, and some people are just like, well, okay, then the conversation's over because this is insane and we have learned that you're probably not going to change people's minds. But I would like to understand what is it? Why would somebody make that statement? I absolutely will not feed my carnivore that doesn't have molars, that doesn't have flat teeth. That would suggest they would eat a vegan diet, possibly would eat a, you know, vegan diet, possibly. Why would you not feed a carnivore meat?
Speaker 1:I mean, I think I mean these people, and I would say, I would venture to guess that 99 at least of people feeding their pets vegetarian or vegan diets are vegetarian or vegans themselves. So sometimes and there's a variety of reasons for that it's they believe it's healthier, or feeding their pets vegetarian or vegan diets are vegetarian or vegans themselves. So sometimes and there's a variety of reasons for that, it's they believe it's healthier, or they're saving the planet because cow farts are ruining the climate, and you know that whole narrative, which is just a bunch of bunk. So I think I think a lot of times I think people use those principles, like why they think it's better in general, like whether it's for their health, or why they think meat is bad, I don't know. People have lots of reasons for eating a vegetarian or vegan diet and then they apply those to their pets. And there's a number of holistic vets out there, pretty well-known ones, that have promoted plant-based diets in recent years.
Speaker 1:So if they go digging for some, if they want to feed a vegetarian diet, they can find, you know, support in in doing that, yeah, and then, like when she traveled and stuff, she fed a high quality vegetarian kibble.
Speaker 2:You know a high quality vegetarian kibble.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And does that mean that my carrots were, you know, like 14 karat gold, or what does that mean? What does that mean, folks, it's marketing.
Speaker 1:It means that she listened to the marketing. And she said in her response when I said you know, I'm sorry, we just don't work with people that will not feed a species appropriate diet, she said well, I was closed minded, I needed to expand my mind, because her dog was in exceptional health, except for the fact that it had cancer, and Karen kindly pointed that out to her. You know cause? The lady immediately said you know, when Karen said, well, we don't work with people that feed vegetarian, my dog was like an exceptional health and she said except for the fact that your dog has cancer, right, um, but I'm close-minded and I'm closed minded. You are, and I'm going to stay that way Because I don't think we should feed. That's what I am, because I want my patients and anybody's dogs to be as healthy as possible. If that's closed minded, then I guess I'm closed minded. All right, well, I'm going to ask you then I guess I'm closed-minded.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, I'm going to ask you a question. I'm just going to see how closed-minded you are about certain things. So I want to know Dr Jacek, do you know how much selenium you put in your body every day? I don't have a clue. You're not worried about it. Yeah, no, and I'm not worried about it either. I mean, you don't feel like that's irresponsible, Dr Jayseek, that you don't know how much selenium you have in your body? Maybe I am?
Speaker 1:just close-minded and I just don't care.
Speaker 2:All right, so here's where I'm going with this.
Speaker 2:So Brian, our nutritionist, he says to me he says people actually contact him and want to know how much selenium is in the food, want to know how much selenium is in blah blah, want to know how much selenium is in blah blah, blah. Anyway, so there was a vet. So Athena, one of Brian's dogs, had some joint problems because dogs run around and they, you know, knock their joints out of whack. And, by the way, he did see Dr Andy and found that there was nothing terribly wrong, it was just she needed an adjustment. He did see Dr Andy and found that there was nothing terribly wrong, it was just she needed an adjustment. But this particular vet told Brian that it was because the dog wasn't getting enough selenium Because it was eating a raw diet. Yeah, we're going to come up to that too.
Speaker 2:But Brian alsorian also said that a nutritionist a nutritionist with 25 years experience and a vet, uh, told brian that it was irresponsible for a human being to not know how much selenium was in that they were getting and how much selenium their dog was getting. Oh my God. And Brian said, you know, counting nutrients has not stopped cancer or produced healthier dogs. The opposite is happening. And you know there is Mars is in a lawsuit right now because of a vitamin D toxic toxicity in their food. Shocker, we always see that. But but this? This vet also said that six years, what? So a brain said okay, look, my dog is super healthy. And blah, blah, blah. To which this vet, who said it was irresponsible that you don't know how much selenium, said well, six years is not a long enough sample time to know if your dog's diet is giving them everything they need. And then Brian pushed back and said well, how long does it take for deficiencies to show up? And he said, to which she had no answer, simply got argumentative and attacked him yeah, because she didn't.
Speaker 1:She didn't know the thing about all this micromanaging nutrients when they're measuring them, like. Like I don't think you can actually measure it in a fresh food diet or it would be hard. You know, the reason that some diets have all that data is they're putting in a synthetic that's not even natural. So it might be selenium, but it's not a natural source of it, so it looks good on the label. Okay, they need that, and who knows how much selenium. How did they even determine how much selenium? How did they even determine how much selenium a dog really needs? Or a person who decided that?
Speaker 2:maybe it was an anthony fauci test, I don't know, but let me tell you. Let me tell you some of the top 10 selenium rich foods beef got that in the raw diet. Sardines got that in the raw diet. Sardines got that in the raw diet. Turkey in the raw diet. Liver in the raw diet. Eggs people we tell them to put it in the raw diet all the time. Some of the other ones are going to be yellowfish, tuna, halibut, brazilian nuts, sunflower seeds.
Speaker 1:Brazilian nuts, sunflower seeds and spinach. So in other words, in other words, if you do a proper rotation of proteins and you add in fish and eggs like all the stuff we recommend, probably have plenty of selenium in their diet.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know, that's being irresponsible to not have a number. Dr Jasek, it's very close-minded.
Speaker 1:Did he ask her if she knew how much selenium she was eating every day?
Speaker 2:Right, you know it's so, it's so, but, but. But let me say this, dr Jasek, I think you would agree. What we see when we consult people want numbers, they want a spreadsheet, they want something, instead of us just saying feed a variety and you're going to be just fine. That is way too simple.
Speaker 1:I know People want to make it complicated and then questions like this come up because they've been trained that, you know, got to have this amount of this nutrient and that nutrient. And again those are the problems with excesses and deficiencies, like this deal with Mars, come when you're putting in the synthetics, because they put in too much or it's not bioavailable or it could interact with something else. When you feed the nutrients in a whole food form, you just, you just don't have to worry about all that stuff. It really is, you know, just that simple. But in nutrition and in health, like what you just went through with with lozzy, it's always this micromanaging the numbers, the, the lab results oh my God, kidney values are up a little bit, or this or that you know, and you got to treat this and treat that. And they're always micromanaging numbers without looking at OK, does this appear to be a healthy dog? Because I would think that a veterinarian could recognize if a dog was malnourished in some way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what? Let's talk a little bit about that. You, you made this statement. We were talking about this because Lazi is bounced back. She's perfectly fine. We didn't do anything dramatic. There was there. We didn't let them do the surgery. We didn't allow them to put steroids on this other kind of stuff in her body. You made the statement that many times that when a dog goes into the vet and let me say this if you, if your dog is ill, many times you have to go to the vet to get fluids, and you're a big proponent of that. Okay, so hear me when I say that the fluids is incredibly important, right, because we can't let a dog get dehydrated from vomiting or diarrhea. However, you made the statement that many times they are going to compromise the dog by all of the things that they're going to put in the dog when the dog's in a compromised situation. Can you speak a little bit more about that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they go in. So you know, like Lazi was vomiting and she got to the point that you knew she wasn't doing. Well, you know she was a little staggering and stuff and you tell which happens with dehydration. Sometimes they can't hold down water if they're vomiting so much and there's losses, right, they're vomiting. So even if they're drinking a lot of times they're vomiting so much and there's losses, right, they're vomiting. So even if they're drinking a lot of times, they're still losing more than they can take in.
Speaker 1:They need supplemental fluids and I've seen so many cases, but that's all they need is just hydrate the body, because the body can't heal if it's dehydrated. Hydrate the body and the body will be fine. But nowadays you go into the ER and they're putting them on. You know multiple antibiotics. They throw steroids at everything and then they'll put them on. You know anti-nausea medications and appetite stimulants, and I've seen these lists. I mean dogs when they're automatically put on like six to eight different drugs.
Speaker 1:They checked her blood work. Her kidney values were up a bit. So, okay, maybe there was a little kidney insult or that could have just been the dehydration. But you start throwing drugs at her when her body's compromised, her kidneys are not functioning optimally. You're going to make all of that worse. And when they couldn't pinpoint an exact diagnosis, what they wanted, they wanted to open her up and look and I can guarantee you they would have wanted to go in there and biopsy every organ in her body because they had to find a diagnosis, and then she would have been really sick from having to, you know, go through that surgery.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I mean I think they definitely make make pets sicker and sicker with with all the drugs. Some things are necessary but and I know it's hard for, like, the average pet parent, when they're scared and their dog's really sick or hurt and they go in and they want to trust the vet because they don't know what's necessary and what's not but I think a lot of this stuff just ends up making them sicker. I bet pets die because of you know. They say now that, like for humans, like the last place you want to go if you're sick is the hospital, because a lot of people get sick and die in hospitals just because of the incompetence of the care. And sadly it's becoming the same way in veterinary medicine.
Speaker 2:Well, come on, dr Jasey, you got vets prescribing vegan diets and saying that you're an irresponsible pet parent if you don't know how much selenium is going in your pet, and then what? Then? What are they selling them? A supplement that has selenium? I mean, what, what? What are we? What are we doing? What is happening?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know where their brains are going or where their active brain cells, like when I went to vet school, you know you had to be pretty smart. There was a lot of school and it was tough, so you had to have at least a few brain cells to rub together. Maybe it's changed, I don't know. I don't know, but it's really scary what's going on. People really need to learn how to navigate the system and be strong and advocate for your pet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I want to talk about something else that we see going on in the veterinary world and it's just devastating to pets, and that's a Cytopoint, dr Jasek, the Cytopoint injection or pill. You know they've got two different ones depending on which one you use, but Cytopoint is the one that is very dangerous and I don't think that people understand why it's dangerous. They don't change the diet. So let's talk about what do we see that causes massive itching in dogs. First, it's the food Okay. So if you feed any type of a prescription diet, a kibble diet or a cooked diet, okay, you have changed the vitamin and mineral structure of real food, period bar none, and maybe that is causing a worse situation in the body.
Speaker 2:I don't say maybe it is right, it is causing issues. And certainly all of the carbs, all of the sugar, all of the crap that is in these cooked foods are wreaking havoc with our dogs. Not only that, but then you guys know how we feel about all of the preventatives, the flea and tick and the heartworm and all of the shots that you've got to give because you've got to travel and you've got to do this and you've got to Okay, and I'm saying if you've got to, you've got to, but you've got to is not going to change what you're going to get, and that's an itchy dog, right, and that's an itchy dog Right. And then you're going to go in and put this thing called cytopoint in the body and I want to talk about what cytopoint actually is and what it does. Dr Jasek, what are your thoughts about cytopoint?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree, anything that suppresses itching. So it's like you said itching is a reaction. The body's telling us something. You know we got to get away from this. Oh, we just, we just need to make symptoms go away. We make symptoms go away, then we're happy, our dogs are no longer itching, so we've helped the dog. We have to think about why they're itching in the first place and go after that root cause, which is diet and vaccines primarily especially when very young dogs start itching or and the preventatives.
Speaker 1:There's no doubt in my mind these flea and tick, the Prevecto Symperico those are kind of the two biggies. Now Advantix, all of them make create the skin disease. I think they're cause it. Cause the topicals like travel through the, through the fat layer in the body and um, just can inflame the skin. To doctors like itching, like man and and like just don't respond even to diet changes, but they're on these drugs and then the drugs are stopped, make it better. But what Cytopoint does is it just suppresses the immune system and the and the way it's sold, cause anything that just stops itching. Like that you're suppressing the immune system, because itching is an immune response. The body is reacting to something or they're trying to detox through their skin Anytime. Anything that just shuts that down, you're suppressing the immune system. Side of point, soul. Because it's not a steroid. So people become a little afraid of steroids, like we don't want to use steroids. So they say, well, this is much better because it's not a steroid. And they say the same thing about Apico too, which is the pill. And they, they, they say oh, this is safe and all this stuff and it's going to help. And I see it all the time. But I see what's at a point is it'll help. Usually the shots are given once a month to people like it, so you don't have to give pills at home. It stops the dog from itching and then usually what starts to happen is it doesn't last as long. So, like, sometimes people will give the shot, maybe they'll get two months and then they have to give it at six weeks and then they have to give it a month and then it stops working altogether.
Speaker 1:And I started working with a client this week. Her dogs had two dogs are four years old. They've been on Cytopoint since they started itching like mad around a year of age. So they've been on Cytopoint for three years since they started itching like mad around a year of age. So they've been on Cytopoint for three years. So the problem is, yeah, the immune system. So first of all, the issue that caused the itching in the first place has never been addressed. So that's just smoldering there while you're suppressing the symptoms, and the whole time you're disrupting normal immune system function.
Speaker 1:So getting dogs off of these drugs it's really hard and it takes time. I think we can do it but it takes a lot. Of matter of fact, I essentially fired a client I was working with because she just there was always something wrong with the food, just the raw food wasn't working. And she got some raw and the package was torn and she's like it's just not, not, this food just isn't working for me. And then there was a problem with the herbs and she couldn't give the herbs. And then you know it had been a month and the herbs weren't working and she's like I just can't stand this and the dog had been on Cytopoint for years. I told her it's gonna take time and she's like I just can't do this kind of protocol with my lifestyle. And she went out and got a side of point shot and I said well, good luck center records. Hope you and your pet have a good life. I fired her essentially Cause I'm like it takes time and it takes patience and if she's going to go back to that and she was especially especially abrasive too, I don't just fire everybody that slips back into conventional care, but but she was exceptionally abrasive to me and my team and but.
Speaker 1:But if you don't give these things time, it's not a quick turnaround. You know reasonably healthy dogs. They start on a raw diet. They can do a 180 and be so much better. We see those cases. They stop itching and their ears are no longer inflamed and they've got more energy and they're feeling great.
Speaker 1:But the longer they've been on drugs like this, it it takes time. It's not a quick turnaround and you know it can happen. But it's going to take. It's going to take months and oftentimes, coming off of these drugs, they get worse before they get better and you just got to ride it out as as best you can.
Speaker 1:You know, sometimes I'll do like maybe some Benadryl, maybe some antihistamines or something. Just the dogs like up all night scratching and it's just unbearable, just so we don't have to go back to the strong immunosuppressants. But these are horrible drugs, horrible drugs. Yeah, they stop the itching and the people that keep doing them, those dogs are going to end up with cancer. I mean, I can almost guarantee it, because you, you're suppressing the immune system, you know they're going to end up with cancer, autoimmune disease or something more serious. So for people that have been giving these drugs, it's not just you stop the drugs and start them on a raw diet and all is good. It is a process. And these dogs not only have they been probably getting the Cytopoint, because they're going into the vet every one to two months for the Cytopoint, you know they're probably kept current on vaccines and all the other stuff.
Speaker 1:So yeah, these pets are a hot mess and it's not a quick fix.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Cytopoint. What it does, guys, is it blocks interleukin 31. Okay, and what is interleukin-31? It regulates homostasis of the cells that create red blood cells and it's involved in the regulation of connective tissues. So in this article, where I was doing some study about it, it says blocking the interleukin-31 may contribute to the development of diseases in your dog. Okay, like immune mediated hemolytic anemia and other things. It can also cause, you know, immune system dysregulation.
Speaker 2:So what, what happened here is that the drug companies, what they did was they said, all right, let's, let's inject dogs with this interleukin 31. Okay, and that made them itch the more that they had in them. So to turn that off, they decided to develop this cytopoint to to suppress that. But that has real side effects, like what you were saying. And there's many, many people who have reported that Cytopoint actually killed their dog. Dr Jasey killed their dogs and that they suffered with real severe side effects or adverse reactions shortly after getting Cytopoint.
Speaker 2:And you know what we see, or what I've seen, especially talking to people, obviously, that are on the raw diet the veterinarians will never look at what drug did I just put in the dog and now they're having this reaction. If you're on a raw diet, it is. It is going to be that, and they will not look at. What drug did I just put in the dog that could be causing these adverse effects? And you know what they say? Well, it's FDA approved. Care, if it's fda approved, there's a lot of crap out there that's fda approved. What does that?
Speaker 1:mean that means nothing means nothing because they don't test this stuff. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I've never looked into the data on how cytopoint was tested before they put it out in the market, but like we were talking about that labrella, that arthritis drug you know it's tested on like I think think $30 or something like, and they and I've seen that many times in other things like new vaccines they only test them on very small population and they're probably not doing really good like placebo controlled testing either. They're just doing enough testing to get the FDA stamp of approval so they can get it out on the market.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's absolutely insane. So a lot of times the vets are again in their infinite wisdom, not looking at the root cause. We cannot just keep throwing drugs or keep throwing selenium. I mean, let's get real folks. What is happening with your dog? And there are a lot of people that feed the wrong diet? But when I travel, when I put them in a boarding facility, you know other things come into play and that is kibble, because certain boarding facilities won't feed raw. They demand that you have other vaccines and they're also getting treats when they're in there. And then your dog is in a compromising position and you're like this raw diet isn't working. And that is what drives me insane, because I'm like the raw diet works on all levels for all animals. And I had this vet say to me not all dogs can eat a raw diet. Why, if they were created to eat it? Why? Well, because they have different. They have different, you know, digestive and gut issues. Why? Why do they have gut issues? Right?
Speaker 1:Right, what caused all that stuff in the first place? Cause, if, if a dog, I mean, I would challenge anybody that says that their dog can't eat a raw diet, because sometimes people just have an aversion to it. But if dogs are, I mean some dogs are harder to transition because their digestion is so messed up from the poor diets and all the drugs and all this stuff that they've been on that they need more digestive support because it's just, it's such a big change from these this processed sugar, you know, in the kibble to a raw diet. Even though the raw diet is much better, it's still a big change and sometimes their digestion is so weak. It's the, it's the change that's hard for them. So we have to do a little more to support them through that. But it's not that they can't eat it, it's their natural food. It'd be like saying you know, I can't eat, I don't know, chocolate. Isn't chocolate a natural food? For I think it's high in selenium.
Speaker 2:Um, the last thing I want to touch on today is crystals, dr jc, because I I personally don't see dogs on a species appropriate raw, high moisture food get crystals, and yet people want to come in. And here's what I what what I see happening is they're coming off, they're they're on a kibble diet, they want to go to raw, and then they then they are like I need this specific type of raw, I need a low calcium, I need this, I need that. My opinion you just need to get them off the daggum kibble and get them on a species appropriate, raw, high moisture diet and many times these crystals are going to go away. But am I wrong? Am I wrong in?
Speaker 1:saying that? Nope, you're not wrong at all. I've actually seen that many times that when dogs are on kibble diet because it's not a species appropriate diet it changes the pH. So crystals show up in the first place because the pH is abnormal. Most commonly we see a high pH, so you get the struvite crystals. If the pH is too low, you can get calcium oxalate crystals. So if they come in asking for low calcium, their dog might have calcium oxalate. So they think that if they get feed a low calcium diet that's going to make the crystals go away. But they're not looking at what's really the issue is that the pH is not correct.
Speaker 1:And the reason that pH is not correct because they're not getting a good quality diet, because the body manages that pH very specifically. The body has very tight mechanisms for keeping the pH normal and when it's off, you got to look at what you're putting in the body. And the other thing the supplements. A lot of dogs I've seen that that have, you know, an abnormal pH or and there's, we're seeing crystals on a boatload of supplements. Because you just don't know how those supplements are affecting the body, how they're interacting with each other. Um, so yeah, I always get a new baseline on a, you know, raw meat-based diet, balanced raw diet, and see if the pH corrects. And I have people just measure the pH at home. You can buy pH strips. We want the pH at like six to six and a half, right, slightly acidic, seven's neutral, not slightly acidic.
Speaker 1:And if it's staying there you're, the crystals are going to go away. I mean, there there are direct consequences of the pH being too high or too low and I've seen like a lot of dogs lately that are getting like eight and nine pH, you know, really really high and we're seeing crystals in the urine and, um, yeah, it's exactly what I do. So you got to get off the kibble. You know, eliminate any processed treats. The greenies, all that stuff total meat-based diet. I tell them to stop any produce too. Greenies, all that stuff, total meat-based diet. I tell them to stop any produce too. I don't think that some produce is always bad, but in this case I want to adjust the meat, bone and organ and check the pH, because sometimes even the produce can change the pH in the body and we need to get that new baseline. Then, if you, then if people want to share a slice of apple with their dog or whatever you can but you keep monitoring the pH.
Speaker 1:But the pH is the key and people can go online and just order pH strips and check the pH and they can prove it to themselves. You know what I'm saying. They don't have to keep going back into the vet and doing the $80 or however much it is now your analysis.
Speaker 2:They can just monitor that pH and change the diet and see where that pH lands, dr Jacek, of the foods that you want to avoid for your pet, for struvite stones? Okay, for struvite stones, broccoli, sprouts, cabbage, pumpkin, asparagus, carrots, cucumbers, green beans, peas, kale, spinach, sweet potatoes, swiss chards and bananas, apples, pineapples or strawberries.
Speaker 1:We never see any of that stuff in a commercial diet, do we?
Speaker 2:Right, Right. Any of that stuff in a commercial diet do we Right, right? But for those folks that are feeding a vegan diet, I wonder about their UTI health. I wonder about that. What am I trying to say?
Speaker 1:Urinary tract. There it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you want to feed, you know low oxalate foods as well for that, and that's going to be beef, chicken, turkey organ meats, eggs, what did I say? Fish.
Speaker 1:Let's see, wait a minute. You mean we just feed a raw diet and rotate the proteins, like we see all the time?
Speaker 2:Too damn simple.
Speaker 1:And not only is they have adequate selenium, they have good urinary tract health.
Speaker 2:You are just so close-minded.
Speaker 1:People overthink this. I'm very simple-minded, I just I don't like being, I don't like complications, I don't want it to measure. How would that be if you really had to worry about 20 different nutrients, vitamins and minerals and you had to measure exactly what you were eating? Who does that? Nobody does that Come on.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they do, people do it. They don't do it well, but they do it. They're, like you know, got their little spreadsheets out, but there there are health professionals that promote that crap. It's just like you know. I had a vet. I could not convince this vet that her chart for managing a dog's weight was just time consuming and irrelevant. I said, first of all, what other things is your client putting in their dog's food and what should the dog weigh? What does the dog weigh and how much are they feeding?
Speaker 1:because I have never in 25 years had to do a damn spreadsheet it's extremely rare for a dog eating a balanced raw diet to be overweight. They they just naturally tend to maintain. If anything, I've seen them be underweight because people just aren't feeding enough. But for them to get overweight it's really hard. It's. I've seen it a few times where dogs, I think, had thyroid issues or something else going on. It's extremely rare to see a dog overweight on a raw diet.
Speaker 2:Well, and what's extremely easy, Dr Jasik, is to manage it. You know how you do it. You take a couple of ounces out of the daily meal. You feed them less and I really do see that why people have an issue with this or why they're concerned. They're like well, is my dog getting all the vitamins and minerals they need? Why? Because you're taking a few ounces out of the raw diet a day.
Speaker 2:So if Lossie gets out of the figure eight, okay, where I can see the ribs, I can see. You know, I can't see the ribs. I'm sorry. I can see the chest Right. So I see the eight. Right, it's not, she's not a sausage from the front to the back. There are times where in two weeks I will see that that has, you know, expanded and there's too much food there. So what do I do? I'll come from 22 ounces a day to 20. And if you hold that for a couple of weeks, you'll see a dramatic shift in their weight. Right, you can't see the hip bones, you can't see the rib bones. It's real simple. Take a couple of ounces out. Are you skewing with the vitamins and minerals?
Speaker 2:No it also has the same vitamins and minerals. You're just not feeding them as much. Why do you need an incredibly elaborate? My dog's getting this much and the metabolic output is this and da-da-da-da-da. I'm just like, oh, for Pete's sakes. And the reason I believe that that works for some vets is because they're feeding that crap food and they have somehow. They have to figure that out. It's like, first of all, your dog's starving on that food, they're getting fat on that food and they're not getting any nutrition. Wow, what a great food to sell to every patient that you have coming through the door. Right, well, it's a great food to sell to every patient that you have coming through the door.
Speaker 1:Right? Well, it's a great business model, because then the pets just keep getting sicker and then they can keep treating all the sickness and then they keep making more money because the pets are malnourished some more. You know natural veterinarians and proponents of raw feeding that have these food calculators. You know where they're doing the same thing. They're micromanaging all these nutrients and so you've got to add in a a this and a that and they'll do it. I saw one recently that they're doing it with whole food. So you got to feed them some oyster, or you got to feed them some this, or you got to feed them some that to get.
Speaker 1:they're going like looking at brands of raw food and saying we got to add these things in because they're not you know. Quote unquote complete per the calculator. They're just making it so complicated for people.
Speaker 1:The one thing that I do is I add an extra organ because I think the organs are really nutritious. You want to give a nutritional bump, add in a little extra organ mix, not just one organ, not just liver, but like the organ mix, because those are super nutritious. And then, and then your fish and your egg and all that stuff. And I mean, you know, as long as my pets look healthy, I'm not going to question that. You know, I know that my pets are, you know, struggling in some way, and if they're not, I mean, why would I want to change anything?
Speaker 2:I don't know, but next podcast. Dr Jasek, I'm going to ask you again if you know the level of selenium.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's my homework. I got a homework assignment.
Speaker 2:Ah, for Pete's sakes. All right, everybody, listen, dr Jasek, work with Dr Jasek One. You got to drop the kibble, not feed a vegan diet too. Because, why? Because I this. This is what. This is what blows my mind, dr Jasek, people are going to fight you because you're trying to show them the easiest, most healthy way that they can keep their pets with them for the longest amount of time. And they're fighting you because they're so brainwashed that the best way to keep my dog alive is to pop them full of drugs, to feed them the prescription type diets or the vegan diets, feed them a diet that they were never, never, born to eat. And damn if you're not close-minded, and and and and trying to kill their dogs shame on you.
Speaker 1:I know it's terrible thing, isn't it? But, you know, I guess I'm not going to change, so I guess I'll just continue to be. Here's your pink slip and I'm going to say when it comes to selenium, ignorance is bliss. You know, I just I guess if my nails start falling off or something, I'll worry about selenium deficiency, but aside from that, I think I'm not going to worry about it, right?
Speaker 2:Right, all right, everybody. You can work with Dr Jason. Where is she? She's at ahavetcom. Ahavetcom, that's animal healing arts, is the website. Great stuff on the website. There's lots of podcasts. You want to go back and listen to our podcast. There's blogs, there's videos. So much great stuff over there as well, and so get over there. What is the Substack, dr Jasek? What's the link to that?
Speaker 1:JudyJasekDVMSubstackcom.
Speaker 2:Awesome, j-a-s-e-k. That's how you spell that. So you can work with Dr Jasek anytime. We're going to get to present in the Colorado Make America Healthy Again group and we're so excited about that because they want to know how to make their dogs healthy again. So I'm going to say that Maha, make animals healthy again, dr Jasek.
Speaker 1:That's what it stands for, for us All, right, right, maha, start a new movement there.
Speaker 2:It is All right. Right, start a new movement there. It is All right, everybody, Get over to Raw Dog Food and Company. Get your dogs on a species appropriate diet that's not cooked, that is not kibble and that's not vegan. But if you want that, there's that stuff out there. It's just not going to be at my place. So, anyway, get over to rawdogfoodandcompanycom. Brian is there to assist you on your nutrition needs for your dog. What kind of blends do you need? It'll help you. Just sign up for that free consultation. Remember, every Wednesday is our yappy hour, from 4 pm, mountain time to midnight, so you can get that stuff on sale. It's a great sale. We have a great sale every wednesday night. All right, everybody. Thanks so much. Get over to raw dog food and companycom, where your pet's health is our business. And what, dr jacek, friends don't, let friends be kibble y'all. That's right. We'll see you next week. Everybody bye.
