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The Raw Dog Food Truth
Pets with allergies, skin issues gut issues, and behavior issues can live better lives by eating a species-appropriate diet. Find out the dangers of kibble and cooked foods. Your Pet's Health Is Our Business "Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble"
The Raw Dog Food Truth
The marketing machine behind pet food is killing our animals while making billions.
We expose the deceptive marketing practices used by pet food companies and pharmaceutical corporations that prioritize profits over pet health. Dr. Judy Jasek explains how kibble manufacturers and medication companies use half-truths and misleading claims while hiding behind the minimal consequences they face when products harm animals.
• Seresto flea collars remain on the market despite thousands of incident reports and pet deaths
• Companies like Monsanto/Bayer are pushing state bills for immunity against pesticide harm lawsuits
• "Standard of care" in veterinary medicine often means ineffective protocols that generate profit
• Medications like gabapentin are widely prescribed despite causing adverse effects and limited benefits
• The flawed human food pyramid has influenced pet nutrition, promoting inflammatory carbs over species-appropriate fats and proteins
• Processed pet foods marketed as "fresh" or "natural" still fall short of truly species-appropriate nutrition
• Changing to a raw diet should be the first intervention before medications for common pet ailments
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Well, hello Raw Feeders. I'm Deedee Merson-Moffitt, ceo of Raw Dog Food Company. We're your pet's health is our business, and we're friends, like my friend Dr Judy Jasik. Well now, dr Jasik, you let friends feed kibble. No way.
Speaker 2:Not even with toppers on it or a fixer None of it.
Speaker 1:Not even with green eggs and ham. Look, you can't fix stupid and you can't fix kibble. You just can't. You just can't. You can change the name. They always do that. They try to change the name and change the stuff and it doesn't even matter. You know, if pets die or they get sick. And I was looking at, dr Jacek, this Soresto this is one of the things that I that I was looking at. So Alonco is the company that you know makes Soresto, and I was looking at the fact that they are still on the market. Right, and thousands, thousands of pet owners had deadly effects of Seresto flea and tick collars and there was a class action lawsuit alleging that the company misled consumers about the safety of the seresto collars. Right, and check this out. The suit states this that elanco misrepresented the product through affirmative statements, half-truths, omissions regarding the safety of the product. Now, dr jasic, would you say that most of the commercials that you see on TV about kibble would be misrepresentations, omissions and half-truths?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think they could be in that category. They have the golden retriever running through the field, daisies and you know. Oh, this food gives them a you know shiny coat and a long healthy life. And the part I hate worse is they say that the vets recommend it. So I hate that they're not this bad, I know, but don't they?
Speaker 1:I mean, when we talk about kibble right and prescription diets, tell me, dr Rightcoat, how is your prescription diet any different than the kibble I'm seeing on TV? Because again, what is prescription about this? Yeah, it is a fact that when we look at prescriptions you would say, well, you can't get it without a doctor's recommendation and you can't get the veterinarian kibble food without the veterinarian giving it to you or selling it to you. So by that standard, it is a prescription in word only.
Speaker 2:Right, and price because it costs more. Oh, there it is. Yes, yes, it's much more, much more expensive because the veterinarian could, could sell it. But that's really all the vets know about it. Cause the sales rep comes in and says you know, like Hills, they, like, you know, they got the, all the letters, the alphabet soup, the A-D and the C-D and the D-D, I don't know, they probably got, they probably started over, they probably have a double A-D or something.
Speaker 1:Did you talk about bra sizes here? What are we talking about?
Speaker 2:Probably they probably used up all the letters. You know Not my bra size, but they probably used up all the letters. But you know, the best I remember was seeing little handbooks, you know, like so what's the problem Diarrhea, vomiting, whatever and you look it up and then they tell you what letter? Oh, that's vomiting, you do ID, or their skin's itching, you do DD, and that's all they need to know about nutrition. And look at how much money you can make selling these to your you know, your clients that come in your clinic. So that's like all they need to know. And they don't even look at the ingredients. They don't even know.
Speaker 2:I used to well, I still do Christmas. The people coming into me now kind of wised up to that. But I pull up the ingredients on these foods and show them like this is actually what you just paid. You know that, hundred dollars a bag for whatever they're paying now. And they'd be like shocked, like for soybean meal and pork fat or whatever. I'm like, yeah, it's probably the same as is in the grocery store food, it's just, it's just more expensive. So it's just, it's just a marketing game. It's really.
Speaker 1:It's really just a big marketing game and marketing games typically are omissions of truth, half lies or half truth, let's. Let's call it that. And they just make up words. Let's call it that. Um, and they just make up words, um, and, and.
Speaker 1:Does it cost them not much? Does it cost them to play in this half truth game? Not really, because, when you think about it, um, the lawsuit that went against ilanco for seresto okay, ilanco is the owner of who bayer health care. Okay, yeah, of who Bayer Healthcare. Okay, yeah, that lawsuit was for $15 million, but their callers, their Seresto, flea and Tick callers made over $300 million in 2019. Okay, and so it really doesn't matter. Regardless that, there were over 100,000 incident reports, deaths of 2,500 plus pets, 894 different human incidents right, because of this insecticide. Right, that's on these collars. Now, I don't think that any of the collars are any better out there, and yet they still go out. They're still going to advertise them. Why? Because half-truths and omissions and the fines or the lawsuits are way less drop in the bucket compared to what they can make.
Speaker 2:It's the cost of doing business. It's just a business expense. They just look at it like a business expense. They don't care about the pets. Did you know I just actually wrote a sub stack on this that there's a bill? This bill is just now coming up in Tennessee.
Speaker 2:That cause you mentioned Bayer made me think of this, the pesticide company. So Bayer bought Monsanto, that that makes Roundup. Well, they now are proposing a bill. They want the states to make a law that they have immunity against any side effects. Anybody, any person, any animal, any pet that gets sick from these pesticides.
Speaker 2:And pesticides include herbicides, insecticides, anything that kills, anything that they consider pests is in this group that these companies would have complete immunity. And it's been proven that glyphosate they've already had lawsuits for lymphoma, for non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, for causing that in farmers, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, for causing that in farmers. And they're going to the farmers talking about marketing and saying if, if, if you, you know, if you allow, if you don't, if you don't allow us this immunity, and they start to outlaw these products. Like you need these products or you're not going to be able to produce food anymore, Like there's no other way to produce food except spraying it with round. So what they're telling the farmers are scaring the farmers into not supporting these bills.
Speaker 2:And it's the same thing that happened with the vaccine industry, Like in 1986, they passed a bill where now all of the vaccine companies have complete immunity. They can't be super. Look at how much of our population has now gotten sick from vaccines. And the same thing is happening with the pesticides and the narrative that they're trying to sell to the farmers scaring them, telling them that you know well, you're not going to be able to grow food. You can't grow food without if you don't kill the weeds, where there's plenty of other methods of farming. So yeah, it's like these big corporations they're just all about the money. It's all they're looking at as the bottom line. So what?
Speaker 1:so that's their selling point, right? They're saying, okay, you're not going to be able, your crop's going to die, right? Isn't there evidence, like from joe sulliton um, that this isn't true? Absolutely. I mean, there's mounds of evidence right there. What's the other stronghold do you think that they've that they're throwing out there to try to get this? And, and the other question is is this a state to state or is it a federal?
Speaker 2:State to state. So there's more states that are. I just listened to a. Where was that? I think it was on CHD, children's Health Defense. They have a show called Financial Rebellion and they had somebody on there talking about this. They had the two people in Tennessee that were here in Tennessee trying to rally opposition to this bill here in Tennessee, and that's what they said is that's what they're pitching to the farmers is that if this is going to allow you to keep farming, because you have to, these like reps from this company are going on the farms and you know they're all buddy buddy with the farmers because they're nothing but salesmen and they're just saying you know you really need to keep, you know, if you want to be able to keep using these products, you know you need to oppose this bill because they're trying to get these products off the market, because they're saying that they're harming people, which you know they're saying. Well, there's no real proof of that, even though there's actually been.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Even though there's actually already been, you know, lawsuits that you know that have proven it.
Speaker 2:So that's, that is what they're what they're telling the farmers, but they're not saying the other side that there are alternatives. There's plenty of alternatives, plenty of alternatives permaculture, and it's been well proven that you can grow healthy crops through permaculture. Where you're not killing the weeds, you're creating an ecosystem and you use ground covers, and there's there's farmers that have completely converted their farms to doing that and their production actually increases because the soil is healthier, because when you're all you're doing is killing the weeds, I mean the weeds are there because the soil is healthier, because when you're all you're doing is killing the weeds, I mean the weeds are there because the earth is trying to heal itself, because the earth doesn't like to be naked, it likes to be covered, so it throws weeds to cover it, and that competes with the plants. But if you create a healthy soil, you can actually grow your crops with other support plants. You can plant ground covers and other things like that that make the soil even healthier and actually have a better yield. But they don't.
Speaker 1:They don't talk about that. Well, we can continue to say that all of these cancers that we see are coming from the invisible viruses that we've never been able to see, right? And then we don't have to say maybe it's the insecticides, the pesticides and all of the carcinogens that are allowed to get in our food, our water and probably even inside pharmaceutical products. So again, we see the same thing. It's not this, it's that, right, right.
Speaker 2:They decide where they want you to look. Don't look here, Look here. This is the real cause Cancer. That's just genetic. It's just got the bad genes.
Speaker 1:That's all. There's no freaking way. No freaking way. I just I'm never, I'm never, no, I'm never going to believe that. And if you look at the explosion of what type of cancers? And so so you line it up and you say what type of cancers are we seeing explosions of? All right, what kind of pharmaceuticals have we pushed out there and what pesticides and chemicals have we been putting in the water and the food, right, and and probably I would say there's probably a darn good link. And I don't know. I mean, god love them, the people that are trying in this world to clean it up, you know, if they don't get whacked first, um, but it's like I don't even know where you would start to start cleaning up this mess, you know I I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 2:You know there's actually a product now, um, it's a company called environautics and they developed this. It's basically um, a bacterial plant. It's like a probiotic for the soil. I was listening to um marjorie wildcraft, who's a homesteader. I've been listening to her for years. She's got um the grow network is her website but um, she's been doing research on this, like she said when I first heard this that like so the claim is that you put this product on, which is basically a mix of bacteria, and it will actually clean chemicals out of your soil, cause they say things like glyphosate will live for long periods of time and it washes down into the groundwater. And she said she didn't even believe it. But she's been doing research and actually testing the soil and it is working and it's like a bacterial formulation. It's very affordable. She's all about, like people you know putting gardens in their yards and small you know small homesteads, and it's very affordable. Like for a few hundred dollars you could treat a quarter acre or something like that and help to actually get all these chemicals you know out of the soil.
Speaker 2:I think getting the big commercial farmers that kind of have they've got their money invested. And you know, once these farmers start buying seeds from companies like Monsanto because they actually buy ground up resistant plants. They're buying seeds from companies like Monsanto because they actually buy ground up resistant plants. They're buying seeds that have been modified so that they don't die. They can go spray the field and kill all the weeds and the crops don't die. But there are these specially genetically modified seeds from Monsanto and it's very hard to get away from them.
Speaker 2:Once you start doing that, like there's rules about what they like they kind of have to stay under Monsanto's umbrella. Once they get there they can't like I don't think those plants even reproduce, but they can't like sell like a farmer could, like you know if they have a good crop when you're they could harvest those seeds and then, you know, use them again. You can't do that If it's like you have to buy every year from Monsanto once you kind of get in with them. So getting the big farmers to change would be hard, but get enough people doing it on a small scale At least we'd have some more food options that would be healthier. It freaks me doing it on a small scale. At least we'd have some more food options that would be healthier.
Speaker 1:It freaks me out a little bit when I hear you say seeds that won't die, right, they do it so they don't die. And yet when you look at cancer, what is cancer? Cancer is the fact that these cells don't know when their time is up. They will not die.
Speaker 2:You can spray poison on these plants and they don't die.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So like what? What are we creating? You know what are we creating. And then, what do we eat? What do we do? You know, and and again, you and I always say that you, you have to, you have to in your life, do that, what you can take, control of, control of, and and we can control so much, much more than we think, much more than we're probably doing today. So, for instance, in my own life, you know, taking all processed foods out if it, if it, if it has a label on it, I'm, if it's been changed from its original form, right. So a cookie, nobody grew a cookie, I get it, you know people want to make no cookie trees out there.
Speaker 1:There's no cookie trees out there, and you know, looking at that and saying, wow, just taking processed foods out of your diet, okay, that's one right. Same thing for your dogs. Then the next thing is, how much of energy drinks, right? These, these Starbucks bottled drinks that have? Look at the labels, I mean, there's so much gunk in there. Right, there's so much stuff, and I'm just using that one. There's many of them.
Speaker 1:If you just did that, that's a huge advantage to your body. You know, regardless of what comes along, you know how do we stay healthy? Well, that's one. Then we got to look at the mental side and breathing error. Are you, you know, in a coal mine 24 hours of the day? That's probably not going to bode well for your lungs. I can do it for you, right, right. Or even people that work in paint shops or things like that. So, but there are many things that we don't have time. We think we just can't do it, but we can, we can and we can do it for our pets as well.
Speaker 1:You know, what is so crazy to me because I hear it so much is, again, it's the marketing. It's the big marketing. It's the big marketing of the companies that want you to buy their product that really isn't good for your dog and again it's or your cat. It's super simple Take out the processed foods, okay, take out the processed treats, give them good water and stop forcing them and I'm going to say it because that's what's happening Stop forcing them to put toxins in their body. You know, look at the, look at the fleet Like we were talking about Seresto.
Speaker 1:Look at how they market that. They're like they get the big ants and they get the big thing, you know, out there and your dog's going to battle against it. Really, how are they going to battle against it if they can't even get up because they're so sick and on the verge of death because of some insecticide that has been put in this chemical? So again, you always say does the risk outweigh the rewards? And sometimes we will not wake up and don't realize that the risk did outweigh the rewards until we have to deal with the other big R word, and that's regret. Yeah, because we didn't.
Speaker 2:And I see that all the time People I work with gosh I've only known. I've only known when I tell people all the time you can only do what you know. Now you know different, you can do different. They're like I wish I met you years ago, you know, and I hadn't given my pet all those products, because now we're dealing with cancer and it's brutal on people and I I hear it all the time but I and I can't blame people if they're not, if they're not hearing the narrative that we say and all they're hearing from their vet is oh, that's safe and effective. Where do we hear that before? It's safe and effective? And you know these vaccines aren't going to harm your pets, are going to protect them from all the you know boogeyman viruses out there and all these. You know horrible fleas and ticks that spread all these diseases. And you know just one one, one stop treatment. You know I mean there's a, there's a heartworm prevention now that it's a shot that you give once a year. Don't put anything in your pet's body that you can't take back out, because your pet gets sick from that. It's going to have those effects for a whole year. And you know what? That? It's called ProHeart and it was on the market, something like I remember when I still had my, my regular clinic. Like, time goes by so fast, so it's probably like 15 years ago, maybe it's 20 years ago, I don't know. Well, a while ago it was pulled off the market because of effects you know, and so it's like you were saying earlier. So they run into these trouble. There's complaints, you know, pets are getting sick, so they pull it off the market. Do you think they really changed anything? Or they just waited for enough people to forget about that? All those pets that got sick, they've now died and gone to the rainbow bridge and people have maybe forgotten about that and the vets have forgotten about it. So they come back with this product. Do you think they made that any safer? I highly doubt it. They're just going going another round and seeing how many more pets that that they can inject with that stuff. And you know, we also know, and I've seen this many times, that changing the diet and getting pets off of these inflammatory diets, the bugs don't like them. They don't taste as good little bugs, evidently, because the bugs go to the pets that are inflamed, that have the inflamed skin and the in the goopy ears and all that. That's what they like to to go after. I guess they're just tastier, they smell better to the bugs.
Speaker 2:I have clients I have clients all over the South here and talk to some oh my God, I got to do something about heartworm, got so many mosquitoes here and I can talk to somebody else in the same area and they're like man. I'm worried about that in years. I'm like any problems. Pets are getting sick. Now Fleas and ticks are a problem. Now I find ticks here and there. I just pluck them off. I have no problem with fleas. So it's again. It's all this marketing. Well, and we got to be afraid of them and they're going to your dog's, going to get Lyme disease if you don't. You know, use these products, and so they just create all this fear and I think it's just. I think it's just all made up. I mean heartworm, does heartworm exist? Yeah, I mean you can. I mean that's a parasite.
Speaker 2:It's an actual worm that they have found in the heart. Where have I actually seen heartworm cases in stray dogs like roaming the streets in the South? But there's lots of mosquitoes. They're just. They have no care, no love in their life, they're just eating crap. Of course those are the ones that get sick. Your average pet dog that's on a good diet, that's getting good care and a good home, they aren't getting heartworm disease. So it's just. It's just. It's just a lot of fear. That fear sells a lot of products.
Speaker 1:I was thinking about Bacteria. Obviously. You know kind of been in and out of the hospital a lot with family member in this last year and you know I see so many masks and fear of bacteria and everything and it just it's hard when people don't have this view that you and I have right, which means doing raw for 25 years, never being ill. I've never, 25 years never being ill. I've never really seen a dog get sick from said salmonella E coli or listeria. I just haven't seen it. And yet that narrative is so big and the and the and the actuality of it is so small. But but the story is fantastical. The story is so fantastical and it has to be to get people to move in a certain direction and it's very, very, very hard to change their opinion. I, I, I don't know that I even try anymore. You know it's just. If people want to talk to me about it, you know I'll talk to them about it, but you see them glass over and it's just really funny. It's funny.
Speaker 1:My girlfriend and I were talking about this today because her mom has been in and out of the hospital for the better part of five years for the better part of five years she also previous to her experience in the hospitals, was working for a company that would actually go into nursing homes and test the patients to see what drugs they were taking in their body that were fighting against or having adverse effects right, that were fighting against or having adverse effects right Pharmacol, something like that, but anyway. So she was talking about gabapentin and she's very well-versed in all these drugs and she noticed that her mom had this seizure and that they thought she was having a seizure. And she looked on the chart and found that gabapentin was on there, which gabapentin you know they prescribe. She said did they prescribe gabapentin still to all of these elderly patients? And she said it shows that it's so damaging to them that it can cause and does cause seizures many, many times. And she said you take that and never give that back to my mother again.
Speaker 1:And she said how is it that you and I know about gabapentin? And the nurses are like what and the doctors are like what? I said, because there is so uncertain I'm not going to say in every healthcare facility, but in many healthcare facilities there is no thinking going on. It is here are my orders, here is what I'm supposed to do and I have no knowledge of what adverse effects can be happening or the reports that came out, or how damaging it could be, and therefore that is why they say that the highest death rate is coming from the health care industry, right From misdiagnosed patients and giving the wrong protocol.
Speaker 2:Well, standard of care right.
Speaker 2:They say this is standard of care and it doesn't matter if it doesn't work, makes patients sick. As long as it's standard of care, the doctors can use it and not get in trouble because they were following standard of care. So they give something and a patient has a seizure. Well, that's standard of care. Here's the protocol, you know, because they've medicines become very algorithmic. Here's this diagnosis and this medication is appropriate for these things. And as long as they have that, then they can't get in trouble, Even if it harms the patients. Gabapentin has gotten huge in veterinary medicine.
Speaker 2:I mean in recent years. Dogs are started on it like crazy before any other pain medication and sometimes you know a dog needs a pain medication if they're really hurt, hurting, you know, just for a few days. Keep them comfortable. You know I'm not opposed to that. But gabapentin, and I'll, I'll ask people and I say that where the dog's on gabapentin, you know cause it hurt its leg or something, I say well, is it helping? And most of the time they'll say no, it's not helping. And not only that, but they'll say and my dog is just acting really weird since they're on it, like it makes them a little loopy because it affects the central nervous system, thus the seizures. And let's say my dog acts for it. It's just not acting like him or herself since he's been on the gab of pet and like no, let's stop that and let's get them on something that's actually appropriate, for you know what's going on with their pet. But that's the except thing.
Speaker 2:I used to use tramadol all the time, like especially after surgeries and stuff. You know the pet's hurting, you don't want them to hurt after a surgery. It's good for soft tissue pain. Well, evidently there's some article came out or something that said the tramadol doesn't work in dogs and I'm like I used it for like a couple of decades in practice and it worked. It worked wonderfully, and the surgery patients, might you know it could. It was a mild opioid because it could relax them and make them a little sleepy, but you just want them to go home and rest anyway, after surgery, you know, for like 72 hours. Just get them over that post-op pain, and you know it worked great.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? It doesn't work, like I saw it work. And now they give them gabapentin that doesn't do anything and makes them feel worse and loopy. So like, where does this stuff come from? But's the accepted protocol? So they're just, it's so robotic, it's just like they just they don't even use their heads, like you said. There's no, there's no, no thinking required. I could, they could take, you know, monkeys and put them to medicals. Medicine will probably be all just robots here soon.
Speaker 1:Well, you know where the head is. Where's the head, dr Jasek? In the sphincter? There it is. Hey, you know. You said something to me along the same line of the gabapentin being used for humans. So it's okay for dogs. It never was good for humans. It's still not good for dogs. But you said you think that a lot of pet parents extrapolate nutritional information that they hear on the human side and use that towards the justification for what they feed their pets, such as you know, like low fat or the need for carbs, rice potato and the need for fiber. And you were listening to a podcast that was talking about the need to revamp the food pyramid for humans to be based on what Sounds like they were all dog food diet to me fat, protein and not carbs, right, so tell us a little bit about that podcast you were listening to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they were. So this lady is actually she's actually trying to lobby. She wrote, wrote a book to something that I can't remember the story or can't remember the exact name, but she wrote a book about basically how fat is not dangerous, and that's been published before, that saturated fat is not dangerous and that's been published before, that saturated fat is not dangerous. It's the seed oils and the trans fats that are dangerous. But what she's pushing for is to actually change the food pyramid, because the food pyramid is you should have all these carbs and and I don't know what's it's. It's like, I think, think grains, I think grains are like at the bottom, and then it's veggies and then fruits, and then your protein and fat is like way up, way up at the peak, which.
Speaker 2:But she's proposing this is literally reversed you've got your protein and fat, but the fats are saturated animal fats lard tallow butter or ghee, whole fat dairy, then your veggies, low glycemic veggies like broccoli and cauliflower, and then your starchy veggies might be above that, like your root veggies, like carrots and beets, and then your potatoes, your grains, your legumes. All that stuff, all those starches, all turns to sugar. And it's exactly what she said on the podcast and they've actually found she wrote an article that they've actually found that when people expect people with any sort of metabolic disorder, which is a lot of the chronic illness that we see diabetes, even arthritis, any kind of inflammation in the body, is going to get better when you get them off the sugars. And what it got me thinking was we're kind of saying the same thing, we're trying to do the same thing.
Speaker 2:The whole pet food industry and all the kibble follows that original pyramid. And I think she even said those diet. The original diet recommendations was about 50% carbohydrate. Well, what's in kibble? So they've done the same thing in the pet food industry. Well, what do we see? Diabetes, skin disease, all this chronic inflammation, cancer coming from the diet. And I hear from you know clients all the time like when their pet gets sick, you know, and they don't know what. What do they feed them Chicken and rice. Okay, the chicken's. Okay. Why are you feeding rice? Why do they need rice? Why do they need carbs? Well, it comes from this, this training that that that's what they need.
Speaker 2:Another thing they talked about, about, or she talked about, was how bad these seed oils are. And if you look, if you look anybody that has a bag of kibble, you look, and if you see soybean oil, corn oil, canola oil, those are all seed oils and they're very toxic and very inflammatory, especially when they're processed at high temperature. So not only is that food not nutritionally sound, it's, you know, it's just, it's just downright toxic. And I think, because saturated fat was made, you know, the bad guy on the human side, people extrapolated that fat's bad. People, to be healthy, need to eat a low fat diet.
Speaker 2:When pets have trouble pooping, well, they didn't want to give them fiber. Like they're carnivores, they don't need fiber and even talked about on this podcast. So they found people with digestive upset. Now they actually do better to less fiber because it's hard to digest. So there's just a lot of things that I think people are thinking about that might benefit their pet that are coming from this false narrative that's been told to humans for decades and promoted by industries that benefit, like the seed oil companies and the pharmaceutical industries that make money treating all the sick people. These narratives have been out there for humans and I think people just say, well, if that's what they're saying is good for people, well, that must be good for my pet, and not so much.
Speaker 1:Not true, because we're just alike, because I lick my butt every day, just like my pets. Okay, do you eat. Goose poop too yeah.
Speaker 2:Goose poop what I have Goose Poop.
Speaker 1:What's the name of the book? The Big Fat Surprise? Why Butter Me?
Speaker 2:and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet, yeah, something like that, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Nina Techholz is her name, and this book it said so it came out in 2014, but she said it was a nine-year-long investigation and it shows how this misinformation about the saturated fats took hold in the scientific community and the public imagination. Oh my goodness, imagine that that we put a narrative out there that gets in the imagination and it just runs amok. But what really disturbs me about that is that she said it took hold in the scientific community. How does nonsense take hold in the scientific community?
Speaker 2:Well, I think that comes down to who's paying for the research.
Speaker 1:Oh, say it isn't so, it's so, it is so, it is so. I hate to tell you research. Oh, say it isn't so, it's so, it is so right, it is so I so I hate to tell you I cannot say it's not, I cannot tell a lie, right?
Speaker 1:we cannot tell a lie and that's why we tell you that you must remove processed foods from your dog's diet. I contend that dr harvey food I see it out there all the time is processed. It is not. It's not meat, organs and fat, it's a processed type food. Look at the ingredients. Okay, I don't mean ill will, but I'm just saying let's not confuse real raw meat, bones, organ meat, bones, organ and animal animal fat with farmer's dog, all of those other ones that are out. This is real wrong and we always tend to start out with a great thing and then dilute the crap out of it. Why? Because investors are going to get on the gravy money train, but the only way that they can make it work for them is to cheapen it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, they got to make it less expensive to produce by putting cheap fillers, because then they can pay for the TV commercials, because they're not putting as much money into making the good food. But then they can use the creative marketing and they still use the buzzwords like it's fresh, it's natural, it's all this and all that. So people think, well, okay, that sounds good, I want to feed that to my dog. I can't believe how many people come in feeding farmer's dog. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:And it's because of the advertising Right, and they're, like somebody said to me, I have to say, I have to say yes, yes, because kibble is our arch, you know, enemy, because it's the most prevalent, in, in, in, in the poorest health of dogs. I I mean. But you know again why, why? Why, if you can feed the best food, are we not doing that? If you can feed the best food, are we not doing that why? And and it really comes down to Dr Jacek, either one of two things. It's convenience. Well, maybe three things convenience, money or packaging, right, people, people don't want to, they, they, they want to just like.
Speaker 1:If you look at the farmer's dog, they want to like, cut it open and spoon it out, you know, and it's got. It looks like you could just open up a can of Campbell's soup, right, and put it in a bowl. That's what it looks like. So it comes down to that. So I guess you have to say can I do better Without, you know, causing myself too much grief? I don't know, it's not, it's doesn't cause me any grief, right? So I get it. Some carnivores.
Speaker 2:What's your, what's your pet's?
Speaker 1:health worth to you.
Speaker 2:Is it not worth a little extra money and a few extra minutes of your day? And maybe you got a little meat juice on your counter you got to wipe up, Cause it's cause it's a little messy? I mean, is your? You, I mean people. I hear all the time how much they love their pets and they're just everything to them and you won't put a little extra effort into it. How much do you really love your pet? If you can, just it just not, it's just not quite convenient to to do it Like what, what is that? I just, I just don't get it. You know, rearrange your priorities and if your pet really means that much, then it should be worth it to you to do this.
Speaker 1:Look, just say I don't really love my pet that much. I can respect that I might not like you, but I can respect the truth.
Speaker 2:But at least be honest. Right you, but I can respect the truth. At least be honest.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right. Because, like I said, I I know some extremely, extremely wealthy people and I'm talking really wealthy who are like that's just too much. That's just too much money for my dog's food and I'm like that, that baffles the sphincter is anatomy Is that a word?
Speaker 1:It is now. So I mean it's really just. It's just really all. You know over the board how people feel about their pets. But I think those that listen to this podcast they love their dogs, they're going to figure it out. We hope that we give you lots of good information to be able to discuss with your friends or your family members whose dogs are having issues, because we contend that before you do anything, before you put them on any massive medications, certainly the Apoquil and the Cytopoint or even arthritis medicine we say change the food first. We say change the food first, give it a chance. If the poops aren't exactly like you need them to be, like you, as a pet parent, need them to be, we know how to tweak it, because we've only been doing this two and a half decades.
Speaker 1:You know, I like when you say decades because it sounds like a lot longer than 25 years. 25 years, doesn't it Decades? Sounds like a very, very long time. You know what else you could say? It's quarter century Sounds like a lot longer than 25 years. 25 years, then that decade sounds like a very, very. You know what else you could say? It's quarter century. Oh, my, that is. I like that one.
Speaker 2:A quarter century.
Speaker 1:And people go. What is a century?
Speaker 2:That sounds like a long time. You didn't even look that old.
Speaker 1:Thank you very much. All right, everybody Listen, you can work with Dr Jasek's team. Why? Well, because you always need a non-biased perspective, and when I say bias, I mean beholden to a. I'm going to take your license away. We're. You know, I've got to make this much money from all my pharmaceutical companies and the reps are coming in and we're really good friends. And yeah, the AHA vet team, yeah, they don't do any of that. They're not beholden to that mindset. Ok, so that's what I mean when I say work with Dr Jasek.
Speaker 1:And also two sides many, many years of doing different practices and seeing where the healthiest dogs actually come in, what drugs are causing problems. What is she here in the vet industry and being able to take that information and shift, when in the traditional veterinary world they don't have that option. It is, here's our protocol you do it or you don't have a job, okay. So this is why I say work with ahavetcom. Ahavetcom, they will help you today. Get over there. And Dr Jacek hasa fabulous website, substack it is. I'm going to try. Judyjacekdvmbm. Substackcom. Was that right? Right?
Speaker 2:Hey, I know it's a funky thing.
Speaker 1:It's a funky address it is J A S E K. I was looking at what we were watching a rodeo on TV last night and in his name he the. The boy's name was Jasek. Oh yeah, j A C E K I think that was his first name, jacek something and I was like, hey, okay, so anyway, j-a-s-e-k. Remember, get your dog on a species appropriate diet. My goodness, we have so much that over here at Raw Dog Food and Company, brian's going to help you figure out what you need to feed your dog. I always say make it basic, just go for a beef and a turkey right off the bat. It's not that hard, but we do have a questionnaire and we do have a free consultation. So get over to rawdogfoodandcompanycom. We have your food, we have bones, treats and supplements, so one-stop shopping right there. The only thing I don't have are those big orange balls. You know the big rubber ball. I don't have any balls.
Speaker 2:I do have balls, but I don't have balls for your dog. Okay, I was going to say I don't think you're supposed to have balls, but All right Well okay, we're not even going there.
Speaker 1:All right, everybody Get them to rawdogfoodandcompanycom, where your pet's health is our business. And what Dr Jasek we?
