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The Raw Dog Food Truth
Squirrel Pee Panic: The Vaccine Conspiracy Your Vet Won't Tell You About
We explore the parallels between processed foods in human and pet diets, examining how "human kibble" like cookies, bread, and even seemingly healthy options contribute to inflammation just like pet kibble does. Dr. Judy Jasek and I discuss how changing your diet can profoundly impact your health, with personal insights from my current five-day fasting journey.
• Inflammatory ingredients in processed human foods include various gums (xanthan, carrageenan, guar) that essentially function as glue in our digestive systems
• Pet kibble contains synthetic nutrients that are just chemicals masquerading as complete nutrition
• Some veterinary emergency clinics like Blue Pearl have started offering special pricing, suggesting pet parents are becoming more selective about expensive treatments
• Medications like Librela for canine arthritis have concerning side effects including ataxia and neurological issues
• Vaccines like Leptospirosis can cause kidney damage as the body tries to clear vaccine toxins through the lymphatic system
• The body's "sickness" symptoms (vomiting, loose stools, itchy skin) are often just detoxification processes rather than true illness
• Variety in pet's raw diet is crucial - relying on just one protein source or overfeeding organs can cause imbalances
• Intermittent fasting and once-daily feeding schedules benefit both humans and pets by giving digestive systems rest
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Speaker 2:Well, hello Raw Feeders. I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceo of Raw Dog Food Company, where your pet's health is our business and we're friends like my friend, dr Judy Jacey. Doesn't let friends feed kibble now, do you? No way.
Speaker 1:No way Jose.
Speaker 2:Don't you wish that you could help people not eat kibble? Because we were just talking about this. I mean, seriously, you know what is kibble? Okay, if we had to say what is kibble in the people diet, I contend it's every processed food out there. I mean, right, it's like you say cookies, cakes and donuts right, yeah, right. But even if, dr Jasek, you're saying, well, I don't eat cookies, cakes and donuts, right, yeah, right. But even if, dr Jasek, you're saying, well, I don't eat cookies, cakes and donuts, all right, you could still be eating. Maybe you're eating pancakes, maybe eating French toast, maybe just a lot of bread, maybe even a lot of that granola, right, what do you think? What do you think is inflammatory for people? The way kibble is?
Speaker 1:for pets, anything, like you said, that's processed, anything you know. I mean I've heard it said that you know anything you're getting that's packaged in a box or wrapped up somehow is processed in some way. So I mean I guess you can get like whole grains and stuff you know that way, but any of your pastas, any cereal products, of course, any cookies, you're like granolas and stuff. I'm reading, I'm an obsessive label reader and you read the labels on things and pretty much if I pick up anything and it's got more than a couple of ingredients, I'm not going to get it. And I think the other thing that I started avoiding because I found that it like bothers my stomach, are all these gums like the xanthan gum and the carrageenan and the guar gum. I mean you look and there's just what, what, even is that stuff?
Speaker 2:it's to hold your insides together. It's glue, yeah, to hold you together.
Speaker 1:And it's just put in there for like, for texture, you know, and stuff. So you see it in like. What I used to do is I used to do a lot of like nut milks because we were off of dairy for a while. Now we're back on raw dairy, but only raw, and we're doing A2, Aa2, which is supposed to be less inflammatory, but I only do raw dairy, except for occasional trip to the coffee shop where I do, you know. But it's what you do 90 of the time anyway, right, um?
Speaker 1:but um but the nut milk. So you're off dairy.
Speaker 1:You think, okay, dairy is inflammatory, right you read what's in coconut milk or almond milk or oat milk, and it's all these gums and all this chemical stuff. Well, I'm like, well, that can't be good. I'm probably better off having the pasteurized half and half in my coffee than all those gums and stuff, you know, because at least it's a more natural product. Now again here we do all raw, even found an online source by raw cheese. So we do, we do everything raw, but I think anything. I mean, if you can't, if you don't know what it is, you can't pronounce it, it's going to be inflammatory.
Speaker 1:Or the other big thing and we talk to people about this all the time for their pets is synthetic nutrients. It's just a bunch of freaking chemicals Like, oh, it's complete and balanced. And you read in like all these nice vitamins and minerals and whatever, I mean they put them in treats and all kinds of stuff and it's the same on the human side. And then you read the actual ingredients. It's just this whole list of chemicals. I mean, if you can't pronounce something, don't eat it because it's probably inflammatory. Yeah, get some broccoli or something.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 2:So I started fasting. Let's see, two days ago I'm past 48 hours now. Now my husband did remind me that coffee was probably not supposed to be involved. So I said, well, I didn't say water fasting, I said fasting. Okay, so I'm doing nothing in the coffee, mind you.
Speaker 2:But you know what, dr Jason? Here's the thing it doesn't make sense to me to wake up in the morning if I can't have coffee. It just I'm like there's just no point to even starting the day, you know, and luckily my husband has my coffee ready for me when I get up he's like here, hon, have a great day, that's nice, and. But I'm doing it right. So I'm 48 hours in. My goal is to go five days. I've done it right. So I'm 48 hours in. My goal is to go five days. I've done it before, I've done five days before. Why am I doing that? Because I need to, because I've gotten way out of whack. I'm carrying too much weight, my joints were hurting and I'm looking at dogs talking about, you know, kibble, and I'm thinking well, dieters, you got some kibble in your life. I got the human kibble going on, you know. And so what a better way to kickstart it? Not only that, but I was listening to. Everybody needs to listen to this, regardless of your political affiliation and what you think about Tucker Carlson. He interviewed a doctor by the name of Dr Soon, and I think it's Soon Dashong, and he really talks about cancer and what is the cause of cancer. And then there's also in his series and I can't remember the doctor's name, you would know it if I said it but anyway, he's talking about all of the crap that we eat that we were just talking about that contributes to that. But he was talking about inflammation, right, and what does inflammation do to the body? And I think you've always said this that inflammation is the precursor to all disease, right In the dogs, in the cats, in the people.
Speaker 2:And I started noticing my joints were hurting and you know I was making sounds when I got up, remnant, you know, kind of like you know, and I thought this has got to stop. So, anyway, my brother decided to do this fasting, and so I said I'll join you, I'll join you, and literally I had just gone to the grocery store to buy food, right, actually, that was good. So I had to take it all. It was all fresh, I had to put it in the freezer. So I'll do it again. So I'm going to do it for five days and then that's going to jumpstart me and I am seriously going to do what I preach, get back to it.
Speaker 2:And that is not eating inflammatory products, right, I mean one. I think brain fog is a huge thing, right. If you have inflammation in your body, your joints hurt, you're causing other issues to come up, like diabetes, like cancer, like all these other things. Certainly, we know it to be a fact in dogs that they feel better when you remove all that crap out of their diet. They're running around, they're not limping, you know, they're brighter and I'm thinking, yeah, well, I got to get to a tail wagon type spouse again. That's right. There you go, you know, uh, yeah, it's, it's amazing. It's amazing that you know it's. On both sides there are some people that that understand it for the pets, right, and they're just like me and you were like there's no way that a treat that has you know that's been processed, that has all these names behind it, is going in my dog's body. There's no way that that processed food is going in my dog's body and I would say, okay, sure, I'll have those pancakes that go with that veggie omelet?
Speaker 1:yeah right, right, because our dogs don't have a choice. Lousy might say can I just have one milk bone? Just one, just one, just one.
Speaker 2:She probably wouldn't even want it. She's having a beef neck bone.
Speaker 1:Today she's probably saying don't feed me, right, don't feed me that crap.
Speaker 1:But you know, I think it is harder for humans because there's lots of temptations, Like you go out to eat and there's, you know, lots of offerings, lots of yummy looking stuff. You drive by donut shops and Taco Bell and all this stuff, that's that, that's pretty, that's pretty yummy. But I'll say, you know, we, my husband, I eat pretty clean and I'd have to say that when you get back to that and you do it for a while, you really stop craving the stuff because you just don't feel good when you eat it, like you get your body in a clean diet for a while and then it's just like, yeah, I don't really want that stuff because I'm not going to feel good, you know, if, if I eat it.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I used to just have the hugest sweet tooth, like I just loved to eat sweets, and now, even, like on the holidays, I'll just, you know, little treat. I don't eat gluten at all because I do feel sick of a gluten, but you know, I'll have a little gluten free cookie or something like I just don't feel good afterwards because of the sugar, so it's almost like, you know, it's not worth it. I'll have some raw yogurt or something like that, you know. So I don't feel like I'm depriving myself of anything after you get away from it that's the thing, though, in my mind.
Speaker 2:It's like everybody's having so much fun in the restaurants and if I can't be there, then I'm not gonna have any fun. See, it's this concept that that they make them really fun and then they then they feed you stuff that's full of msg and and gluten and everything else. That's not good for you, right, because you there's no way you can go to a restaurant. I've eaten with you and chris, and you guys are very, you know, picky not picky in a bad way, but you know what has good stuff in it and what's not. Most people don't, right, but do do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, don't you think, because they put you know what's the first thing they do, like most restaurants, they put this big bread in front of you, or rolls, or if it's mexican, like we love, we love mexican, that's our treat. If we're gonna go out to eat, we'd love to go out for mexican, but they put this big thing of chips in front of you and so, and, and I, I don't eat that stuff. Chris will eat that stuff, but I still I just don't eat that stuff.
Speaker 1:Chris will eat that stuff, but I just don't eat the grains, the carbs, any of that stuff. I just feel better when I don't eat it. It's pretty much some version of meat and veggies when I go out and nuts. I just feel better if I eat that way. But it's just a mindset, you've got to snap out of it. I know Snap, you know, but it's just, it's a mindset, you gotta snap out of it you know, I know, snap out of it, didi.
Speaker 2:What do you think I was gonna ask you this? I, whenever I have eaten tortilla chips okay, at a Mexican restaurant, I almost feel like I'm drunk. I get. I mean, it's like, it's a weird, like my equilibrium goes off. What's that? Is that gluten?
Speaker 1:I don't know. Could be because gluten Well corn, well, corn doesn't have gluten in it. But if they're fried you know like those are basically fried tortillas, so you don't know what kind of oil that they're fried in. Or if it's like GMO corn. If it's not healthy corn genetically modified corn the corn may not be good for you. So it's like gmo corn. If it's not healthy corn genetically modified corn the corn may not be good for you.
Speaker 2:so it might like inflame your brain. So man it it. It really has done, and it's not one or two times, it has been every time and it was no, no no, are you sure you're not having margarita along with those? There it is. That's what it is. How many margaritas you have with the chips?
Speaker 1:because that might be the issue, because I feel a little drunk sometimes when I Mexican food, but I don't think it's the tortillas right, hey, so let's talk a little bit about um we were.
Speaker 2:We've talked a lot on this podcast about how expensive um the dog health, the medical field has gotten right, the, the, the, the vac, uh, the uh, vcas and all that kind of stuff. You sent me something that I thought was I. I can't believe they did. It was a blue pearl that you said pearl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, starting to drop their pricing, yeah they were sending out specials to the vets, which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 2:Wow. So they're seeing. Don't you think that if they're dropping their prices, that only means one thing, dr Jason, that people have backed off? Pet parents have backed off taking their pets in One because it's so daggum expensive. But I have seldom seen where you know they back down those prices.
Speaker 1:So that was quite interesting, I've never seen emergency clinics run a special, but the prices have gone up and up. I mean, you walk in the door of an emergency clinic and it's going to be a thousand bucks most places, and that's all around the country and a lot of people just can't afford it. And, sadly, if it's something like like one of the things on there was like a feline urinary obstruction, so cats get blocked, they get crystals in their urine and they get blocked, especially male cats, because their little urethra is so small. Well, they can't live that way. They don't have the surgery, they have to euthanize them and so, sadly, a lot of pets are probably getting euthanized because their pet parents can't afford the cost of the care and they've just been jacking up these prices left, I mean, every year. I'm like I'm blown away at how much the same procedures are going up thousands of dollars and people can't most people can't afford that, you know I mean. Or they just have to make a judgment call. You know how much money you know are they able to put into their pet.
Speaker 1:If they don't, you know they don't have insurance, which I think pet insurance can really help. If you have a just an accident and illness policy that could pay. 80% of, you know doesn't need to cover wellness or anything, but, you know, because that's more affordable. But accident or illness where you might, you know, might be 10 grand or something at the ER that could make the difference between whether or not you can get your pet fixed or, you know, you have to euthanize it.
Speaker 1:But yeah, the only reason they're running that special is because they're not. Their business is dropped off. I think they've just reached their price point where yeah, this you know people have gone down in what they're and there's more and more competition to because there's more and more corporate clinics. So that was directed to the veterinarians. So they're counting on the veterinarian is the general practitioner veterinarians and not ER vets to tell their clients, hey, when they're referring them out to an ER, say, hey, this ER has a special on this condition. You go there and you know, save 20%. So it sounds like there there's more competition now between the different emergency hospitals.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, I found that was really interesting.
Speaker 2:They squeezed the pet parents so much that their sphincter was starting to pucker, so they had to bring those prices down right.
Speaker 1:Because people got to afford to buy the raw food.
Speaker 2:Yeah, feed your dogs well and they will be well. Now see, that would have been a good tagline too. That's a good tagline too Feed them well and they will be well. Feed them well to be well. There you go. Okay, hey, I was talking with some people the other day and they were saying, yeah, my vet wanted my dog to get on Librella. And they said, and pretty soon after my dog was on Librella, you know the arthritic medication let's don't change the food, let's just give him the Librella.
Speaker 2:This dog got ataxia, so bad, and she said and I went to my vet and my vet said well, out of a million dogs, a million dogs, there's probably only you know 16. At where she came up, this number is weird. She goes. You know, 16 dogs out of a million. That would have a side effect from a labrador. And she goes. Well, I guess my dog's one of the 16. And I was like just change their food Again. We harp on this all the time. Change their food, don't take a drug to. You know, that's like me. Okay, I'm in pain. I mean, I tell my my joints are inflamed. Can somebody just continue to give me a donut but give me a pill to make this inflammation not not feel bad? It doesn't work. It doesn't work. Um, so Librella, a very, very scary. I said so, librella, a very, very scary. I said, listen, that's a scary medication.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the side effects are huge. Ataxia I worked with a client whose kitty had that and well, the kitty version is Silencia. But it's the same technology, the same sort of medication started seizuring afterwards, and it's an unusual technology.
Speaker 1:It's like a monoclonal antibody or something that's designed to reduce inflammation. So it sounds like the pets are more comfortable, but there's a whole host of side effects and just not feeling well, neurologic conditions, intestinal GI stuff, all sorts of stuff not wanting to eat. Yeah, and I'm quite sure it's probably more than 16 in whatever a million, but it doesn't matter, it's your pet.
Speaker 1:You know it doesn't matter, it's not at the 16. And I bet that the vet didn't tell the pet parent that you know that? Oh you, oh you're. You know the odds of your pet having a side effect are 16 and a million.
Speaker 1:Because if pet, if pet parents know there's any chance of side effects, I bet they think twice about doing something like oh, there's you know it's only one million, but your pet could have seizures or your pet could die, you know, but it's just one in a million. But they might say well, is there anything else we can do? You know, you don't die from eating raw what's happening.
Speaker 2:I said no, next we're gonna give them the lepto. You know, and I was listening to these people talk and it's so funny because you know we, we've been, you know, you've been doing this forever. I've been working with you, certainly been feeding raw for this my 25th year this year and you know it doesn't appear that sometimes I have the authority to speak on the things that we do, but you know, gosh, doggone it. You know, it's like all of these things that are causing so many problems, like, and they were talking about why that really wanted me to give this drug that you know, in case they sniff the pee, and I said the leptospirosis. You know, do you know how much kidney failure happens in dogs from the lepto? And I was. I was looking up an article and I was reading about this and in this article it was saying that 100% of dogs okay with leptospirosis contacted it just after being vaccinated against it. Tell me it's not true.
Speaker 2:I'm not, it's really. I'm lying out to my sphincter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, amazing how that happens. Huh, like they get sick from the vaccines. Yeah, isn't that amazing. And then the vet will still tell people oh nope, your dog must have sniffed some squirrel pee in your yard. You know, it's just ridiculous the stories that people like sniffing pee. So you know, yeah, lepto is. It's a urinary tract disease and it is supposedly spread in the urine. But just think about this logically. You know dogs sniff pee all the time. You really think that sniffing pee they're gonna inhale some organism that's going to go into their kidneys. I mean, it doesn't even make any sense if you think about it logically. But that's the stories and that's what the sales reps come in and tell the vets and the vets believe it and they tell to their clients and clients like, oh yeah, I need something else to be afraid of today. So I'll just, I'll be afraid of that. Sure, give my pet that shot. And you know, then they get sicker and sicker and sicker.
Speaker 1:Lepto is probably one of the highest side effects that I've seen. I I quit giving that long before I quit giving all the other. I wouldn't give a vaccine today for for anything. I just hope you want to do that. I mean, I do telemedicine mostly. But you know, if I were seeing pets in person I would be just go someplace else. There's just no way I at this point that I could live with myself to inject that poison into into pets. Because I did the you know, thimerosal free rabies for a while, because I thought, well, people need to get the rabies shot, they want to follow the laws. At least they're getting this one. It's a little safer than that. I wouldn't do that anymore. They just go someplace else. Let somebody else poison your dog for you right in this article.
Speaker 2:I was talking about um dr patricia jordan, and I think you know who she, but she's done a lot of research on the vaccine issues and she said kidney failure is a common sequel to vaccination. A common sequel to vaccination, right, and she said so here. This is what she's saying. She's saying the basement membrane, okay, in the kidneys is susceptible to damage from a clogging that results as the immune complexes are drained via the lymphatics and the kidney is a big part of the lymphatic system. So she says the body tries to clear those toxins from that vaccine and there is damage done in this clearing mechanism.
Speaker 2:And yet, you know you again, all you have to do to really get people running out to get a vaccine is scare them and it's that with everything right. I don't know. I guess you would just have to do some research and say really, how many dogs, how many dogs in my area, have had leptospirosis? How have they really tested for that? How have they really determined that that's not something that most people are going to do? So it's a safe bet. You throw out some sort of misinformation we all love that word today, right, misinformation? And people just go running.
Speaker 1:Right. And the thing people need to remember too and this is probably a big thing I learned through COVID is you've got to be really skeptical of the testing. You've got to ask are these tests reliable? No lab test, in my opinion, is 100% reliable, and especially when we're testing for diseases, because a lot of them are antibodies tests. I get asked all the time about Lyme disease and all these tick-borne. There's this little test that they do, this little 4DX test. They do a lot in the spring. They test for heartworm and then three of the tick-borne. There's this little test that they do, this little 4DX test. They do a lot in the spring. They test for heartworm and then three of the tick-borne diseases Lyme and Ehrlichia and anaplasmosis, and those are all the heartworm's an antigen, but all the tick-borne they're an antibody.
Speaker 1:So A even if the test for true is really testing for an antibody and I believe the lepto test is the same way it's an antibody test. It could just mean so, say, your pet did actually have antibodies against a certain organism. It could just mean it was exposed to it and the body's doing its job because it made these antibodies. Now there's lots of controversy over antibodies and what they really are and is that testing even valid to begin with? But say the conventional narrative is true, that you know the reason you would give a vaccine like lepto is to build antibodies against a certain disease. Then your testing is checking for those same antibodies. So if they have antibodies, how does that mean that they have the disease? It could just be their body recognized or something that needs to be addressing, and it's made these proteins that's now that are part of the immune system that are helping to to address it.
Speaker 1:This came up in humans with AIDS. They, you know the AIDS test was an antibody test. So they said well, if you, you want antibodies against this AIDS, the AIDS virus, supposedly, but the, but to show that you have it, you have the antibodies, but that's what's supposed to be fighting it. It doesn't make any sense that if you have the thing that's supposed to be eliminating it that's why you give vaccines to build antibodies but you have the, but that's what's supposed to be fighting it. It doesn't make any sense that if you have the thing that's supposed to be eliminating it that's why you give vaccines to build antibodies but you have the thing that's supposed to be eliminating it and that's what proves you have it. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:I feel like I'm talking in circles.
Speaker 2:Isn't that the way we're supposed to talk these days? We make no sense.
Speaker 1:It's nonsensical and you just go yeah, yeah, okay, good, yes, uh-huh yep makes no sense, but you know, as long as, you got squirrels in your yard and they're peeing.
Speaker 2:Well, stop licking the squirrel pee, would you? I'm sorry, I just I didn't even see squirrels here in arizona. I, I know, I think they're like hell. No, it's hot here. I'm not, that's true that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1:How hot's it going to get where you are when you get to summertime?
Speaker 2:Well, when we got here, it was 118. Today it is sweatshirt weather. I'm going to just tell you it's cool today and I know that it is snowing back in Colorado right now. It was snowing up at our house, yeah well, april, still snowing. Yeah, still snowing, but no, I haven't seen one squirrel. Since I've been here Now, I've seen a lot of bats that come out at night, because where we are is by the water and the bats come out. Now, what about the bat peeing on you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. They're spreading rabiesies. You know that's pretty scary these poor bats.
Speaker 2:They are really, um, you know, vilified bat. You know, you say bat and they go rabies. Oh really, I mean does is there really a preposterous amount of rabies that live in bats?
Speaker 1:I think all of the whole rabies narrative, as we were talking about before, was pretty much just made up by a pastor and I think the whole bat thing I don't know how the bats got the rap for that either Like why? Maybe because they can fly around so they can spray. You know they're a mammal, you know they fly around, but they're a flying mammal, so they're kind of bizarre. I mean, they're really kind of freaky looking. If you really look at a bat they're not like cute or anything, so maybe they just were. It was just easy to make bats evil because they're kind of an unusual creature. I love seeing the bats because they eat the mosquitoes and we have a few mosquitoes. We have bats flying around here and I'm like hi, mr Bat, eat those mosquitoes. Right, you know I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 1:I think fear is one of the biggest causes of the disease because it's such a strong energy that people are afraid and I think this energetics that we take on and we project onto our pets and into our households and you're just afraid of so much stuff. I think that that really plays a big role in creating disease and we just got to get out of that fear mode and believe that. You know, god made these bodies and our pets bodies to be perfect and to know how to stay healthy. And we're making them sick with all the stuff we're putting into them because we're afraid of stuff that doesn't even exist. I mean, you know, vaccines haven't been around all that long, like, well, parvo vaccine probably maybe since the 70s Rabies well, let's see, probably maybe since the 70s rabies. Well, let's see, pasteur first started working on that maybe 150 years ago, but animals lived before that.
Speaker 1:So, if this stuff, like where this stuff just come out of nowhere, the sphincter, the viruses, just, you know, gain of function labs, I don't know where part of it comes from, but what is what has happened? What has happened? Our world has become so much more toxic that's where the symptoms have come from and our and our culture has gotten so much more harried and fast paced and more technology and abnormal frequencies coming from the EMF and all that. And I think that's what's really stressing us and and stressing our pets and just putting all these, all these chemicals into. I mean, to me, health in pets is so incredibly simple. You feed them a species appropriate diet and you don't put poisons in their body. Bada bing, bada boom. They're healthy. Well, why is it so hard to convince people of that?
Speaker 2:See, I say that to people all the time and they'll say, well, you know, I just do, I just do the, the, the vaccines that are required. Okay, well, that's still toxins in the dog's body. And you know, I cook my dog's food. You do, yeah, and I give them rice and I give them know, all this and all that, and I'm like, you know, you don't even have to take that extra step, don't have to cook it.
Speaker 1:They're like yeah, because they got you, because bird flu right, right man has that just died down.
Speaker 2:Where did that go? Did it flew out, flew away, just like it flew in it? It's kind of gone.
Speaker 1:People are afraid of something else. Maybe people are just afraid of the tariffs for now, so they don't got to be afraid of you know, they don't got to be afraid of that. I don't know. I haven't heard anything about it, though. I think they're still testing farms, because I listen to a podcast that Joel Soliton does every week and he's still talking about it, that they are still going on farms and testing farms, and he talks every week about the millions and millions of birds that are being killed. So I think they're still testing farms, but I have not heard about it in like the pet food industry.
Speaker 2:Who was I listening to the other day? It was a female. Who was it? Anyway, she said, basically that was Gavin Newsom, you know kind of pushed that whole agenda and is responsible for all of so many chickens being killed. And yeah, it's like gosh. I wish I could remember. She was quite, quite interesting that I was listening to her, but she was talking about all that and it's just so crazy, you know that again, these asymptomatic chickens that never had to die, right, it killed them.
Speaker 1:You know, don't kill the healthy ones. You know you can call the sick ones, but don't kill the healthy ones.
Speaker 2:But then we really got to identify what sick is, because we know that sick is not detox, detoxing is not sick. And you know, you and I hear that a lot in the pet industry where my dog is sick, well, what's the symptoms? Well, they're regurgitating their food. Okay, that's probably not sick. That's you sick. There's a lot of things with that. Or even my dog's poop is loose, okay. Well, what are you doing? Well, I'm just giving him chicken. No bone, no variety.
Speaker 2:No, you know, and Lossie is very like I've said this before she's more susceptible towards tripe right, which produces a lot of gastric acidity as well. She'll have looser stools and I had Austin, my other German, who could eat just tons of tripe, never bothered her. So all dogs are different, all guts are different, the way they metabolize is different. Or, you know, like today, I gave her a full beef neck bone right, or beef neck bones, and they have a lot of meat on them, they have a lot of bone on them, and she got her meal too. So probably in the next couple of days, you know, she's going to have a lot stiffer poop than she did before. And again, I can't stop the dog from eating goose poop or duck poop. I can't, I try, she is the fastest thing it's a yummy little delicacy.
Speaker 2:Let me just get over here and lick it up and um, so I, but again I don't worry about it, right? But my whole thing is what is sick, you know, sick is temperature can't get up, vomiting, bloody diarrhea, you know, can't keep anything down.
Speaker 1:Okay, I think we really need to get rid of that word sick, because that has a specific connotation and people need to say okay, what is my pet's body trying to tell me? It's pooping a whole bunch of stuff out. Well, what does that system do? It gets rid of unwanted stuff. So there must be a bunch of unwanted stuff that my pet's body needs to get ruined.
Speaker 2:That cool, like you get rid of all that stuff, or maybe it's vomiting it up now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there can be times where they swallow something and get a blockageets do swallow toys or panties or socks and all kinds of things you know, for all the stories over the years.
Speaker 2:They can get a blockage.
Speaker 1:So if they're, you know it's nonstop vomiting the belly is very painful. I mean there can be some things that are more serious, but the occasional once or twice vomiting loose stools, you know that's just the body cleaning stuff out. You know, I mean it, it's. It doesn't mean. I mean I think people need to get past that. Oh, my dog vomited once so it's sick, right? No, it's just the body kind of cleaning itself out Even itchy skin. The body tries to detox through the skin doesn't mean they have allergies, for goodness sakes. It's the immediate assumption that dog itches must be allergic to something. How about? It's just inflamed and it's trying to get rid of what's causing the inflammation. Because the skin is the biggest organ in the body, it's got the biggest surface area, so the body can try to push stuff out through the skin and that shows up like itchy skin and sores and rashes and hot spots and all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Let's say, if you're not putting the poisons in the body in the first place, I know it's gonna be fine, they're just, they're just fine that's why, if a pet parent tells me that they're a raw feeder, okay, and their dog has a hot spot, I'm like have you had a vaccine or are you doing processed treats or are you sneaking some processed foods? One of the two always greenies, greenies, that, yeah, I hear people talk about little greenies.
Speaker 2:Don't feed anything that looks like a green toothbrush, right, that's ultra processed. So I always know, right, I always know, and again they move over to that. Well, no, my dog has an allergy. I'm like, no, your dog is telling you that this is not appropriate for them and it's coming out in a certain way. So, yeah, I would definitely pay close attention to that. The other thing that we just want to really express, you know, dr Jason and I were talking about on the human side, because I'm doing this detox and kind of where I'm going in my own diet, and it is again variety, variety, variety. Guys, right, I know everybody gets really hung up on one thing my dog loves chicken. Well, okay, but they can't eat chicken forever. Put some beef in there. Let's do some pork. Let's do some, you know, turkey. Let's do some duck, but lamb rabbit, try it. Wow right.
Speaker 2:Variety is the spice of life, as they say I saw this one customer today this was very funny, um buying and I know this customer because they've been a customer for a while buying like 59 pounds of organ right, one little chubs it's a chicken organ mix and I was like that doesn't sound right.
Speaker 1:That's a lot of organ.
Speaker 2:Right. So I started looking back on the orders and typically what she buys is the one pound chicken mix which is meat, bones and organ. So I texted her and I said, did you mean to buy straight organs? No, I didn't. And I was like, okay, bring those back, because if not, your dog's going to be, you're going to die, real Right, right, right. And I mean I don't even know. I mean, what would happen if all you fed dogs were organs? I think that would be really bad for them, really bad for them well you think about.
Speaker 1:We know that when you get too high in the organs they get a soft stool. Why is that? They're getting too much, they're. They're rich, you know, like liver is very high in vitamin A. They're like, well, if you feed too much river liver you can get, you know, too high in vitamin A, which is fat soluble vitamin was exactly what the body's telling you. You know they get diarrhea because they're getting too much of some stuff. You know, certain vitamins or minerals or it's just so rich like their body can't break it down and then it's not balanced with the bone, you know, to help firm things up. So your body's just kicking all that stuff out because it's just too much, it just can't assimilate at all. So we know. Just again, look at what the body tells you when there's you know when there's too much organ but then they're not getting, you know it's completely imbalanced because they're not getting the right protein and mineral balance to go along with the organ.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so make sure you're pretty. No, I was like and this was the second time it happened and I was like, wow, and you haven't had any diarrhea.
Speaker 1:And she did feed just the organs for a while.
Speaker 2:Well, she must have, because the last order was just like this one. Because, um, you know, one of my employees said you know, um, as we're, you know, redoing our stock, they're like somebody's is just buying out the organs. And I'm like that's weird. Who's doing that? Let me look. I mean, because that just wouldn't be, you know, unless you're making your own, and that'd be fine, but not at that level. And so you know you've just been doing it long enough that you're like something's not right with that order. So you go back and you start looking at past orders and you can see where the names are similar right, chicken organ mix, which I wish it wasn't that name. And then you got chicken mix. And so I think that somebody just doesn't read that it says this is organs only. So, anyway, you guys, when you're ordering, you want to make sure you know, because the last thing you want to do is get the wrong you know idea. You're like, oh, my dog can't eat raw. Why.
Speaker 1:Because it has diarrhea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you're feeding it organs and we get that a lot. So not that a lot. But what we get is, oh, my dog can't eat raw. Because when I'm talking to people, you know, because our truck says you know raw dog food and company, and people say tell me about your dog food, and they're like, oh yeah, I tried raw at one time and it just did. You know, my dog just had diarrhea and I'm like, well, it either wasn't balanced correctly or they were just simply trying to get adjusted right.
Speaker 1:yeah, well, they're still feeding kibble, because a lot of times the kibble is part of the problem or the processed treats, and they're feeding that along with the ron. You've got to get rid of all the crap sometimes for them to, you know, fully transition to the. I do see that one too, where they got to get rid of the bad stuff before their bodies are going to be able to detox and then do well.
Speaker 2:On the good stuff. I know Brian said to me the other day he goes well, this certain customer is not going to be a customer because I just couldn't convince them that the dog, the puppy did not need kibble, convinced them that the dog, the puppy did not need kibble. They just really they believe that all those vitamins and minerals for those puppies is important and it's like all right if you could say it like this cakes and cookies and chemicals are not something that you want a newborn to start putting in their body, right, right. But then then they're like well, what do you mean? Well, that's what it is. Well, no, it says 45.
Speaker 1:It's APCO approved. Like what are you talking about? It's on cakes and cookies.
Speaker 2:ASCO, asco approved. Okay, I see I'm getting giddy because I haven't had anything to eat. No, I feel to eat. No, I feel pretty good. I feel pretty good. I'm gonna have to let you guys know next week how I did um five days, but I'm gonna so 48 hours. Yes, that was tuesday, this is thursday. I'm really doing okay. I'm really doing okay and I think, as you and I were talking um, um, tomorrow by two, I won't even notice there's food anywhere. Right, if you get through three days, I think you can just keep going. Now, I think, at some point.
Speaker 2:What we were talking about, guys, is that there's some research, and I even saw this in regards regards to cancer. Now, dr jay, we know that dogs and animals instinctually will stop eating when they don't, when they're, when they're trying to heal right. And what do pet parents do? They say oh, my dog's not eating. Let's go to the vet, give him an appetite suppressant. I gotta shove that food in their body. Their body's saying no, I'm trying to heal right.
Speaker 2:I was reading an article where they are now incorporating fasting in humans with cancer treatments and your alternative folks have been doing this for a long time. There's actually a center out there where you can go for fasting. It's like a whole fasting clinic and you don't get to do anything. However, when you go on these long fasts and I'm talking about water only, probably some, maybe some vitamins and minerals, but 30, 40 days they're trying to get rid of a chronic disease. And I was just talking to Dr Katie Deming the other day and she was saying that they had a patient who had a carcinoma on his on his tongue and did, I think she said, 40 day fast and it went away.
Speaker 2:But, I think the idea is you need to rest.
Speaker 1:It's not like you do that, and you especially that long like you can do. Oh, exactly.
Speaker 1:Get on with your life, but when you especially that long like you can do oh exactly, can't combine with your life, but when you're doing that, it's and and it can be impaired. People I've never done that long, but I've heard people say that it can be rather like spiritual and introspective and you can clear not only physical toxins out of your body but it can help you address toxic emotions, past emotional stresses, like you can clear all kinds of stuff because your body isn't putting that energy into the food and you're stepping away from your regular routine, your regular daily stressors, and you're just allowing your resting and just allowing your body to heal. So I think that's that's a big part of it. And and people can I do have people that advocate that they'll fast their dog like one day a week. They have nothing wrong with doing that. It just gives their, gives their gut around. You got to look at the sad eyes. Now that might be the hardest part.
Speaker 1:I had a client back in Colorado that their whole household once a month would fast for like I think they did like 30 hours, like a day and a half, and she says I can't eat. What pets do when they're not feeling well. Their body says, okay, we need to use our energy to address something else that's going on. We shouldn't be eating right now and so they stop eating. That's not a sign of illness.
Speaker 1:If it goes on for days and days and days, then that's. You know. That's different. But also, I think just switching, getting off of those inflammatory carbohydrates and switching to a raw food diet that does not have all that garbage in that basically turns to sugar in the body, is doing a lot of the same things for the body. You're not stopping eating completely, but because you're getting rid of all those toxic ingredients, you're allowing the body to heal and the cells to get rid of all this garbage. And so the kind of keto diet approach is has a very similar metabolic effect to fasting. It's kind of exactly the same, but it's kind of on the way there. So you're having a lot of the same benefits of fasting doing that approach.
Speaker 2:Well, and if you feed your dog once a day, right, so I feed, I feed laws once a day. So because I was looking at as I come, so I was talking to one of my other friends who her son's an athlete, he was a baseball player, you know, was recorded, recruited by Kansas city, roy uh Royals. And I mean this guy's a real athlete. And she was saying, and this is many years later now, he's probably 40, but um, he, she said he's, he, he only eats between, I think, three and six, 3. Pm and 6. Pm every day. Three and six, 3 pm and 6 pm every day. And she said he is the fittest, feels the best he's ever felt in his life because he only eats in that short window.
Speaker 2:And so I was thinking about on the pets I know it's tough for some pet parents, they're kind of on the schedule. My mom, she was in the hospital having surgery. She wouldn't let my stepdad stay with her because she was like you've got to get home to feed Gia, the little five pound you know monster. And I was like I think she's going to be fine, mom, if she doesn't have her one meal. No, no, no, no, no, she's got to have, you know, her two meals. But I think that, so you look at it, lazi eats what in the morning. Let's just call it seven o'clock. Now she doesn't eat again until that next morning at seven. So if it bugs you right to fast them, can you? Would you be more comfortable moving your dogs over to once a day? Now I don't know about cats, two once a day Now I don't know about cats, but dogs I don't. I don't know cats very well.
Speaker 1:You could do the same thing on cats. I think this whole thing about like cats need to eat more frequently. It's because cats livers get really inflamed when they're eating kibble because carnivore the carnivore system is really designed to kind of binge. They kill a prey and then they may not eat for a couple days. That's what happens in nature right all the time. So I think cats would be fine eating once a day. Now they, if they're used to eating all the time or they're used to nibbling on kibble throughout the day. They'll drive you crazy if you're trying to do that, but I think they'd be fine eating.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah so, yeah, so anyway, that's what I've got going and I'm uh, you know I need to, I need to walk my talk and I just I just got myself out of line. You know, eating things and and uh, certainly, when you guys are stressed and uh, it seems like everybody's stressed these days, you know, we, we, we sometimes don't, you know, we make choices based on these comfort foods that aren't really going to be comfortable when we've gained an extra 30 pounds, right, nobody's comfortable doing that, and I promise you that fat dogs aren't comfortable. I'm just going to harp on that again. There's so many fat dogs out here and I don't know why. I think it's because the pet parents are so happy and they're, so, they're really fit out here. I will tell you they're fit here and um, but their dogs are fat and I'm like what is happening?
Speaker 1:that's. That's the the different. They don't see it in their dogs, they see it in themselves and they do it for themselves, but they don't see it in their pets I know, I know they're like, very happy feeding their, their pets.
Speaker 2:I guess I don't know. Listen, you guys, if you have issues with your dogs that you can't figure out, maybe your vet is suggesting something like labrella or leptospirosis or some of these other things and you've got this little voice behind you know, your head or on your shoulder saying I've heard DeeDee and Dr Jasek talk about how toxic they are. Maybe you want to get an appointment with Dr Jasek and go over that a little more. And then what can you do to make yourself feel safer? Right, if you need to feel safer about it, then then there's some homeopathic things that you could do or just do some research. But I think that you know, if you're working with a vet who has done both sides right the holistic, you've done the standard of care and they've got a body of work that they can look at it and say, where are my healthiest patients? Right, what do they look like? And we're going to move you in that direction of what health looks like and not just keep doing what profit looks like. Okay, that's just all I got to say about that. So that's it, that's it. That's it. Get your dog on a species appropriate diet.
Speaker 2:Does that mean, guys, that means non-processed foods and that means raw. Is raw cooked? No is. Is raw freeze-dried? Not necessarily. I mean, you know I do freeze-dry the raw, um, for emergency situations. But raw is raw and there is no fear of bacteria. And if you have a fear of bacteria then you need to go see dr jay again, get yourself a consultation so we can help you get over that fear. Okay, and the bird flu is not an issue. So butterbean butterboom, right, definitely no.
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