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Paws Off the Processed: Why Your Dog's "Allergies" Might Just Be Detox

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Are your dog's supposed "allergic reactions" actually signs of healing? When transitioning from processed kibble to raw dog food, many pet parents misinterpret normal detoxification symptoms as negative reactions. These temporary changes—itching, minor digestive adjustments, even brief behavioral shifts—signal your pet's body finally purging accumulated toxins from years of inappropriate nutrition.

Dr. Judy Jasek DVM and DeDe Murcer Moffett dive deep into this crucial misunderstanding that causes many well-intentioned pet parents to abandon raw feeding just when their pets are beginning to heal. They explain how the conventional veterinary approach often misdiagnoses these detoxification symptoms as food allergies, leading to even more problematic "solutions" like highly processed hydrolyzed protein diets that further compromise pet health.

The conversation turns to a concerning new pharmaceutical trend—a recently developed injection for pancreatitis that was tested on just 31 dogs with questionable results. This highlights the industry's preference for profitable drug development over addressing the nutritional foundations of health. As Dr. Jasek warns, "Don't let your dog or cat be a guinea pig" for newly released medications when nutrition could resolve many common health issues.

Most powerfully, the hosts share their extensive experience witnessing dramatic improvements in behavior, anxiety, and overall vitality when pets transition to species-appropriate nutrition. Unlike popular misconceptions, raw-fed dogs typically become calmer, more attentive, and easier to train—not more anxious or hyperactive. This episode offers a refreshing perspective that challenges conventional wisdom about pet nutrition and provides practical guidance for those considering a transition to raw feeding. Ready to transform your pet's health? Visit rawdogfoodandcompany.com where your pet's health is their business.

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Speaker 1:

Oh snap. Well, hello Raw Feeders. I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, CEO of a raw dog feeding company, when your pet's health is our business and we're friends. Like my friend, Dr Judy Jasek, Doesn't let friends feed kibble Now, do you?

Speaker 2:

No way. No way, jose, or anybody else.

Speaker 1:

All right, we're going to start this podcast today with a little customer stuff. This dog lost his companion first, okay, and then he got on raw and he stopped eating. He didn't want to do anything, he didn't want to play. Uh, let me see if I can get more of the information, but basically it's this in a nutshell. She felt that the raw food was causing an allergic reaction because he was, in my opinion, exerting and acting in ways that a grieving dog would. But once he got back on his old food kibble, it fixed everything.

Speaker 2:

And only a second.

Speaker 1:

So the grief was triggering the allergic reaction? Well'm not sure. I'm not sure, but because there was a little itching going on. But but here's what we know, dr jasic, and what we've seen over and over and over again. If you're coming off of a food that has lots of different ingredients in it that our carnivores don't need, shouldn't eat, ingredients in it that our carnivores don't need, shouldn't eat they probably are going to itch for a while. Why? Because it's coming out, the skin coming at your skin. It's got to get out. Either we got to vomit or we got to itch, or we got to poop, or we got to cough or get chills or something like that. How do you get the crap out of your body if it's not that okay? And this absolutely freaks our pet parents out and unfortunately we can't stop them from running back to get the thing that is not going to be good for the dog in the first place.

Speaker 2:

They got diarrhea because we're transitioning them and their bodies can now detox, so so they're going through this detox. Then you put them on all the toxins and the diarrhea goes away. So that's yeah, that's frustrating, Because what do you say? I mean, we try to, because we've tried to tell people that this could happen. Your pet may go through a detox. It's a good thing. They're getting all the crap out, but you know, some people it's just too much for them.

Speaker 1:

Here's the other thing, guys.

Speaker 1:

Um, it's very, very, very, very, very did I say very dr jayzik difficult to say one more time, very uh, to tell what the heck your dog is responding to if we have a lot of things going into their body. Okay, so now let me just read this, because this is coming from the customer and this will give you a better idea of what she was dealing with. But she said you know, it's been a roller coaster since they started their dog on the raw food diet. And she said I think we figured, figured something out. I think he is having an extreme allergic reaction. Um, and and, dr jasek, what you and I see is an extreme allergic reaction is if the dog is biting and pulling their hair out, making themselves bleed. Would you agree with that?

Speaker 2:

yeah, that would be extreme. That would be like or like rip-roaring bloody diarrhea or something like that okay.

Speaker 1:

So, um, this sweet pet parent said I'm putting the raw diet on hold right now because he has become bizarre in his behavior. She said his whole personality changed, um, from the saturday night. So this was uh, what night was this? Uh, tuesday, saturday, put him on raw tuesday. This voicemail is coming in and saying that, um, he was having, you know, a personality change. I do want to come back to that in a second.

Speaker 1:

But they said, um, we thought he was just grieving the loss of his brother and now I realized he had an anxiety attack on Saturday night. Now I want to talk about that in a second too. Let me finish another one. Last night, um, it kept us up all night and um, so I had some allergy pills from his I don't know what this is, zt so I gave him that and it seemed to do the trick. I also gave him melatonin and so, anyway, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1:

Let's go back to one thing, and this is where we really have to help our pet parents parse this thing apart, because we don't see this as bizarre behavior, certainly if a dog has lost another dog, um, because probably the pet parents are grieving, right, and and you just wrote a paper on grief. Grief is a very strong emotion and it's going to be felt by the parents as well as the pet. But we talked about the allergy, the allergy attack. But what would an anxiety attack look like in a dog? I? What would that look like?

Speaker 1:

It's a really good question. Well, I mean, was he like pacing and breathing heavy? And I? You know, if we see that pacing and breathing heavy, um or whining, we might think bloat or an obstruction. Right, that may be something that I would see. Now I have seen dogs that go to the vet and they don't want to be at the vet. I don't know why, but they don't want to be at the vet, you know, for something's freaking them out and they are panting and maybe pacing. So I don't know if that would be it or not. That's certainly not, in my book, bizarre behavior. But again, real food, real raw food, will never cause a reaction like that.

Speaker 2:

It causes the opposite. In my experience it causes them. But what I hear back from pet parents that transition to raw is it helps calm them down, they're more attentive, they're easier to train, they're actually less anxious and agitated. And I wonder in this dog, maybe he was looking for his buddy. You know, sometimes if dogs are really close, depending on how bonded they are, and one dies. I mean, sometimes dogs just kind of go with the flow and it's no big deal, but if they're used to being together they will look for their buddy, kind of wander around and like where'd they go? Where'd they go? I got to go find them, kind of thing. So I wonder if maybe it was in part that picking up on their pet parents grief, and there's so many other things.

Speaker 2:

This is another. You know, we always say there's more to the story. What else was going on? You know, did they have people visiting? Was there any changes in the household? You know, were there other stressors in the family? You know, in the humans and what else was going on? There can be so many things and, like you said, what exactly were they seeing? And you know, was it anxiety? Or, you know, was it something else? Because, I agree. I don't see raw food make dogs more anxious.

Speaker 1:

And allergic reactions. This is a catch-all, a catch-all phrase. Unfortunately, the pet parents didn't come upon that themselves. I mean, there's been a lot of help in the pet professional industry, the vet industry, because it's like, oh, they're just allergic and you're like, are they now? Are they now? Or is it an issue where the food because the food is blamed and then the crappy food is never looked at? And this is this is our issue, and we're going to talk about a new drug for pancreatitis which you sent me and I. I find this funny because if we could just change the food, I damn sure bet dr Jason that we'd see that drop. The pancreatitis issues would drop.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, allergies are like the knee jerk, like they're itching, so I know it's allergies. Really, how do you know it's allergies? There's like many reasons why a dog's will itch and I think itchy skin is the toughest thing I ever treat because there's all these contributing factors. You know what are they eating? Were they on any drugs, even past courses of antibiotics? You know, I have heard that like a course of antibiotics, it can take your microbiome like six or seven months to rebuild. So dogs that have repeat courses of antibiotics, their gut's not going to be healthy and that's going to have an impact on the skin also. So there's so many factors and it could be things that happened a while ago that's made their gut not healthy. So now they're having a little more of a hard time with the food chain. So maybe they get they need a little extra support. But it doesn't have anything to do with allergies and I've said this before.

Speaker 2:

I think true, food allergies are actually extremely rare and what I see is people then start to limit the diet so much and people come into me and say, well, my dog just I don't know what to feed him because it's allergic to everything.

Speaker 2:

But it's not that they're allergic to the food.

Speaker 2:

There's another reason causing the inflammation and the itchy skin and you have to pick that apart and sometimes you don't know, you just can't figure it out. But the popular narrative, like you said, is that, oh, it's a food allergy, so the vets want to put them on these hydrolyzed protein, which are horrible, horrible diets. It's like the worst thing. I mean, it's like putting your dog on a vegan diet or something like there's no real food in those at all. It's a really terrible diet. But they're going under the presumption that, well, it's a protein allergy and instead of trying all these different proteins, let's just break the protein down so much and process it so much that there's just no way that it could, you know, cause allergies. And even that doesn't work, because I work with people that are like I've tried all these different foods and this hydrolyzed protein and my dog's still at cheat because they're not getting to the bottom of the problem. So you need to make sure you're digging deep enough and getting to the root of the problem.

Speaker 1:

And I, I'm just going to say this you guys, uh, it's just been 25 years, but I'm just gonna, you know, go out on a limb and say I've never seen a dog get anxious on a real food, that either, real raw food. Now you could say, you can make a case and say, well, farmer's dog is real food, yeah, it's not, it's not raw, okay. So I'm saying real raw, that's minus all the crap. If it's meat, bones, bones, organ and fat, what in that? Is it the bone that's going to make him anxious? Is it the meat? I mean, why would our God create an animal to not be able to eat that which he is designed to eat? Now, that's different. That's a different statement than saying your dog's gut's been jacked up from x, y and z. Okay, those are two different things. But even if your dog's gut was jacked up, dr jasic, you wouldn't keep jacking it up with more right you gotta godly food, you gotta eliminate the problem and that's you know.

Speaker 2:

It's hard for some people to realize. Well, they go back to feeding kibble and their pet seems to do better. But it's actually in the long run going to make their pet less healthy. So you've got to get get rid of the kibble. Maybe to do do some support. Maybe they need some enzymes or some herbs to help soothe the gut, maybe help to ease that transition just a little bit. Sometimes things like that can help. Be sure they're warming the food. I just did a little video on Facebook on the importance of warming the food. It got like 800 views or something Really Like. People don't know this, but anyway I'm glad people are paying attention because, like you know, it's important information and sometimes little things like that, like feeding the food cold, sometimes that's enough to just upset the stomach and interrupt normal digestion and make that transition even harder.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right. So no kibble Friends. Don't let friends feed kibble, ever, for no reason.

Speaker 2:

I don't let my enemies feed it either, honestly, because I care about the pets.

Speaker 1:

Right, that's so right, that's so right. All right, let's do a little update on the Dobie, the Doberman Pinscher that was having the prostate issue. Sure that was having the the prostate issue? Um, she did listen to the program and she um she said thank you again. It's so hard to find any information on prostate health because nobody really talks much about it, so you have no idea how much it means to me. Please let Didi and Dr Jasek know how much they're um helping animals. Even if most don't listen or appreciate it, there are many of us like me who do and I believe my dogs are becoming healthier with the knowledge I have gained.

Speaker 1:

Please keep doing what you're doing. So thank you so much, but you had a couple of other questions, dr Jacek, that we wanted to get from this sweet pet parent and she sent some more information to us. But basically, you need you need more information like what are the symptoms? Um, does he have an abnormal urination, defecation? And what diagnostics were done, especially imaging, because, as I was reading this, this poor doby, he's in a diaper 24 7, oh so he's like dribbling urine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah so, um, I don't know if you had a chance to, uh, take a look, I'm trying to get this thing to pop up, but um, so she did have a test done, a dna test, where you asked if this dog was um willowbrand's disease yeah, right, so she did yeah, she got the test for that and that's why they chose not to neuter him.

Speaker 1:

Uh, they, they haven't done a clotting test, but they um feel that what they've seen is to you know, a lot of he bleeds a lot over small scratches um, last year, right before switching to raw, she, she did say, unfortunately they, they had him vaccinated for the second time, so I think that would be rabies, um, and then um he, about six months ago in august is when he started bleeding profusely from his penis and had that bloody urine and so from that urinalysis, the ultrasound is where they saw the cyst but no tumors. And um, they've they um, they've just kept an eye on it. But they said in the last couple of months he started having incontinence, you know that weaker urine stream and some difficulty pooping. But the vet said that they didn't feel like the cysts were any bigger and he does not have an infection of any kind. But he is in that diaper, poor little guy.

Speaker 2:

That's tough. If it's a cyst, you know there are Chinese herbs that can actually help with that and help with the incontinence. That's what.

Speaker 2:

I wasn't sure of was exactly what they were seeing. But if he's incontinence, and we know it's a cyst and it's not a tumor, then you know there are some Chinese herbs that could perhaps help with that. So if they wanted to reach out to us, we could, we could, we could certainly help them with that and we might be able to improve his quality of life, get him out of the diaper, Cause that's not a good quality of life for dogs.

Speaker 1:

That's hard on pet parents too, dr Jessica. I mean, it really is just a. You know these anytime they run outside, like when Laza's in heat.

Speaker 1:

You know anytime they run outside, like when las is in heat you know, we got our nice little panties on her and, um, you know the door be open out to the backyard and I'm not looking. She comes back in. She got, she got a present. Yeah, she had to go. Yeah, and those aren't disposable, mind you. So anyway, uh, it's not easy on the pet parents. So, yeah, check out Dr Jasek's team. They're over at ahavetcom. All right, dr Jasek.

Speaker 1:

As if there wasn't enough drugs for dogs out there, we got a new one for pancreatitis. And you know what I noticed about this, dr Jasek? They said something that is so relevant to the raw diet. They said something that is so relevant to the raw diet and, and they said that, pancreatitis, because there's not enough like moisture water in in there. Let me just get the right words. What was I reading here? It was like it's a? Uh, how it works, where is it? Maybe I'm on. I was reading about this drug and I was like, okay, okay, well, if you just switch over to a raw diet, then maybe. Oh, the dehydration, the dehydration wheel, okay, I was looking at that. Dehydration is a common symptom of gastrointestinal issues such as pancreatitis. So if you really want to look at how does a dog become dehydrated, well, if your dog is eating kibble 100%. That dog is dehydrated all the time. Is that a correct statement, dr Jasek?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would say so Because you know kibble is about maybe 10% moisture On your average. Your fresh food diet, raw food diet about 70% moisture. So they're, they're getting a, they're having a moisture deficit just by eating. So the food is dehydrating them. Are they going to drink enough to make up for that? You know, you don't, you don't know, you don't know. People say, well, my dog goes to the water dish and drinks, but are they drinking enough to make up for the fact that it's a dehydrated food? And then they go on exercise and and they need any more. And then that dry food is so unhealthy for the stomach because it sits in there and it just it sucks all the water out of the like lining of the stomach. So the stomach lining isn't healthy and can't make the right enzymes, and all that. And yeah, it's no wonder it can cause things like pancreatitis.

Speaker 1:

Well, and we've talked about this many a times Kibble. You guys, do you have any idea how long the bag sits in a hot warehouse? Because kibble doesn't have to be frozen or put in the fridge, I mean it's in a bag. It can sit in a warehouse for a very long time. There are oils in there, there are things in that kibble that go rancid, and do you see higher rates of pancreatitis in the summertime than you do any other time?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I mean I can't say that I've ever tracked that. So I would say in general it's being diagnosed more and more, but I think more presumptively it's why this new drug scares me, because there's a lot of well. The dog's vomiting Dog quit eating must be pancreatitis. Let's just give him the pancreatitis shot just in case there's going to be a lot of that going on. But I can't say that I've ever really tracked that.

Speaker 1:

So this is a shot, Lord. Our dogs are becoming pin cushions.

Speaker 2:

What is?

Speaker 1:

happening. Yeah, so is this just a preventative? Oh, let's give your dog another shot so we can prevent pancreatitis, or when would this be given?

Speaker 2:

it's actually, and I think it's just being tested. I actually saw this on dr judy morgan's site. She did a lot of a little video on this, so I don't know that it's actually out on the market quite yet. Um, but it's. It's supposed to be an anti-inflammatory that specifically targets the pancreas. Somehow, somehow magically, I don't know. They did a study on 31 dogs, so I'm sure they know all about it.

Speaker 1:

Whoa 31, and do we, and we do do we know what the rules were for being able to kick out half of those? Because I'm guaranteeing there were.

Speaker 2:

They didn't publish that, but they did publish that I think five of the dogs died, or something like that.

Speaker 1:

From the shot.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's not clear Like some of them got sick, Like half of those got severe pancreatitis, so go figure but.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what exactly like were the dogs. Like it didn't say, it just said like the study didn't give the details of the study. In the little insert thing that I read it said that you know the study contained 31 dogs. Now were those dogs already diagnosed with pancreatitis and they were treating it, or were they just testing drug safety and giving it to them and see what happens? But on that sheet I sent you it was like the top, like two within the top three side effects were GI effects, gi inflammation were GI effects, gi inflammation.

Speaker 2:

So just giving the shot could make the GI signs worse, which makes sense because it's an anti-inflammatory and we know that anti-inflammatory is like, you know, carprofen. It's just also rimidil or these NSAIDs. You know these anti-inflammatory drugs can be very hard on the stomach. Now they're not giving it orally. Heart on the stomach. Now they're not giving it orally. I believe it's actually given IV. So so they're giving this drug that could be potentially hard on the digestive tract. So how much sense does that make that you're giving something that could actually aggravate the situation. And if you know oh, you know more than a 10th, what 15, 15, 20% of the dogs in the study get sick. I mean, what does? What does that tell you? That's, that's not a really good safety record there. You know you don't want any and they, you know, and they do these studies. Number one it's not on very many dogs. That's like a nothing burger study, right there. Right, because they're just not even. They're not even testing enough dogs to have a good. I mean you should have 1000s in the study. Well, what they do is they test enough so they can say that's been tested to get it out in the market. The real study on efficacy and safety is out in the real world on everybody's pets and I've always.

Speaker 2:

Dr morgan said when she was in practice that she would not use a new drug until it had been out for five years. Um, I would used to say two that she went even went five years. Don't let your dog or cat be a guinea pig and use any new drug for any reason. You know these. I think we've talked about these arthritis drugs the Silencia and the Labrella. I was talking to a lady today. Her cat had two of the Silencia, so they're basically the same drug, just one's for cats, one's for dogs.

Speaker 2:

Had seizures, bloody urine. Now it has cancer. It was like a 21-year-old cat and they gave two of these shots. The vet said oh yeah, just give it. No problem Won't be a problem for your cat. And it's been shown now I mean they're being investigated for this that that makes them sick and it lasts a whole month. So your pet gets sick from a drug like that. You can't just take it out Now. I don't know how long the effects of this pancreatitis drug last, but it's not like you can just treat the side effects and they go away really fast. And if your pet's already sick and now you're putting a drug on top of it that could make those symptoms worse like it's not a good idea and it's not necessary.

Speaker 2:

You know, pancreatitis is an inflamed digestive tract. What do we do for inflamed digestive tract? We fast them. We just let it rest. It's like what do you do when you've got a sore muscle? You overuse your arm, you work out too hard at the gym and your arm hurts. You rest it. You just rest the GI tract, make sure they're staying hydrated. Give them a couple days. The body knows how to heal and the body will heal.

Speaker 2:

Now we're going to be pumping another toxic pharmaceutical into our pets. And you know what else is really interesting is, in the last couple of years and I just got to think this is not a coincidence that the, the diagnosis of pancreatitis has gone up and up and up. Like I was saying, even pets that just aren't that sick, they just vomited once or twice the vet will say oh, they got pancreatitis. They are going to be given out this drug like candy. Any, I bet you anything, any pet that comes in vomiting any, any sign of GI upset. They're just going to be given them this drug and I bet it's going to make a lot of pets sicker. And over time we'll we'll find out how sick because unfortunately, some pets are probably going to die from it, and then they'll pull it off the market, but they'll have already made their money, you know so they don't care. So don't make your pets a guinea pig until something's been out there in the real world for a couple of years. Don't, don't get talked into it.

Speaker 1:

You know what. We've talked about pancreatitis many a times, about what are the things that cause an inflamed gut. Well, the wrong dang food is a big one, but then all the other toxins that go with that, guys. So it's not fat either and it's not.

Speaker 2:

Not healthy fat, unhealthy fat like your toxic seed oils in the kibble that's been sitting in the 110 degree garage in the middle of the summertime. Those would cause pancreatitis. But your healthy saturated animal fats that are in the raw food do not cause pancreatitis.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no and no. But what I know is this uh, when a mindset says my dog has pancreatitis and can't eat raw food, there ain't no change in it. So there ain't no change in it. So I don't know that the dog's going to get healthy. But there may not be any change in that mindset.

Speaker 2:

But they'll sign up for the shot, I bet you, of course. Yeah, brand new medication, just a shot. Like changing the diet is like like this I don't know, this is like bizarre concept that, like all my pet needs is a different diet, but give them a shot. That just came out. Sure, just give me the shot, just give me the drug. I don't care if it's been tested, I don't care how many dogs died from it, just give me the drug and I'm okay with that. Change the food.

Speaker 1:

Could do that. Is Fauci involved? Oh my gosh, I don't know what a fall from grace I mean, if there. I mean, come on, are there any people that still think this guy is a decent human being? I mean, come on, just the blunder about COVID. And back to what you were saying. They could come out and say all the apologies now and say, oh, you know well, maybe we were not totally correct. Yeah, we wanted all you guys dead, that uh didn't get vaccinated right, we lied, we lied out of our sphincters.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, both, both sphincters, because you had two, one in your face and one in your hind end, you know. So you lied out your sphincter. You're right, and I'm just like I that makes me really angry that that you can put something out there Totally false, just like the whole cardiomyopathy.

Speaker 2:

Cardiomyopathy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, that was just BS out the sphincter. And everybody ate that up. I ate that up, man. And every dog had cardiomyopathy and they needed to be on a different diet the diets that the vets had, right, it was all just bull honky. And so this is the game it's like. Well, we know the fear. We're going to create even more fear and then we're going to create a solution to that fear and we know that this many of the sheeple people are just going to run and that running of the sheep is going to pay us this much money, right, and then we'll get rid of it. We'll say we're sorry, we're sorry, right.

Speaker 2:

But you can't undo it, doesn't undo it, no matter how many. I'm sorry'm sorry. You know people hear the damage. The damage is done and not only what people put in their bodies, but businesses that got shut down, that didn't survive, families got split up over this. You know there was a lot of tragedy that went beyond the direct. You know medical consequences, the the. You know medical consequences, the the. You know social, social consequences and psychological consequences of it. You know it's. It was really far rich reaching. But oh, we're sorry.

Speaker 1:

I remember, I remember having a conversation with a former customer, was a customer, then quickly became a former customer because they were very upset that we, you and I, uh, were pushing a no mask. Uh, you know conversation. And I said, well, there is no science on that. Oh, there is science on it there. I said, gladly, take a look at it. You send me the science, right. And then I'll never forget. One of our reviews that we got on the podcast was you are letting people in your exam room without a mask and you yourself are not wearing a mask. No, because we didn't have her head in our sphincter, that's right. But you know what I noticed, dr Jasek Nobody has written me an apology. Have you gotten an apology? Have you seen one?

Speaker 2:

No, no, usually people like that. We block them. We stop communicating with them. So if they did apologize, we wouldn't know it, but I sincerely doubt that they would.

Speaker 2:

But you know what I did so early on in COVID, like I wasn't really sure, like I don't know. And my mom was still alive, she was 98. So I wasn't too worried about myself. I can keep myself healthy. I got ozone, I got all these cool therapies, herbs. I know how to keep myself healthy, you know.

Speaker 2:

But I wanted to make sure that if there was anything to this that you know, she wasn't going to get sick. So I was careful for a little bit. I wore a mask at work for a little bit and then I started seeing I don't buy into this. And one day I just I just said you know what, I'm just not living in fear, and I took my mask off and I've never been sick. I I mean, you know, never like no symptoms in years since before covet. I haven't, by the last time that I actually had like a like what I would call a good cold or something that really you know was a problem for several weeks, one of those colds and he goes before covet never, ever been sick. That's because you know what you don problem for several weeks.

Speaker 1:

One of those colds and he goes. That was before COVID. Never I haven't been sick. That's because you know what. You don't put crap in your body, you really don't. I know how you eat and you don't. You know smoke and you don't take drugs and you don't drink a whole lot, if any. You know what I'm saying. You guys are healthy when you. You know, before you moved out to Tennessee, you guys were hiking all the time.

Speaker 2:

So even here we're outside exercising and we're not afraid. I think fear brings it in, you know but your fear appears.

Speaker 2:

If you sit there and you're so worried about getting sick, it's like a bleeding cause of disease is is fear, because fear causes stress in your body and it puts it in that sympathetic mode, that fight or flight, and and you're just so focused on it that you know you're gonna end up getting sick just from just from the fear. And your pets pick up on that energy too. So when people are so afraid of things like bird flu or feeding raw food causing pancreatitis or other awful diseases, you know they'll find a reason. People that are. If people are afraid enough of feeding raw and they're like well, they've been told it's good, so they want to try it, but they're really. The fear is the overarching emotion. There'll always be a problem with it, always be a problem with it, and it'll always be because of the raw.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I just took a nurse actually some raw food for her cat, because her cats are young but they already have massive tartar and they have issues gastrointestinal issues, so what. They're on hydrolyzed protein and I was like she said, but I'm not going to be able to do this, I'm gonna, um, I'm going to have to have my husband do it. I said are you vegan? She said no, I'm not vegan. I just it's a, it's a bacteria thing, it's a germ, a phobic bacteria type issue, right?

Speaker 2:

She was trained to be afraid of germs.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, right. And I was just like, oh, I said, listen, girl. I said if anybody was going to die it'd be me Of feeding raw food, Because I use my hands.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying I wash them, but I just um, yeah, don't, I just don't. It's not a thing for me. And we have had such a big body of evidence that you know all these dogs, all these cats that have turned around, who do so well on raw, who were sick prior to getting the real food that they were created to eat, that you know, it's not just my opinion, it is my experience and the evidence of not only my own but of others.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, if this gal that couldn't feed the raw food, if she's not a vegan, she's eating meat, does that mean her husband does all the cooking Because they're bringing raw meat into their house to eat it themselves?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, dr Jasek, it's a weird thing for people Once you put the word dog food in front of it, because, honestly, it does look like beef.

Speaker 2:

It looks like hamburger that you buy. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1:

I think you could pass it off to one of your guests that you didn't like. Just fry it up in a patty and give it to them. Just don't use the blends with tripe, because that's pretty potent. That might be a giveaway. They're like this is me. You don't want your house smelling like tripe cooking or the neighborhood smelling to put them on the grill like right, right, um, yeah, so, anyway. So watch out for this pancreatitis new shot coming out. We don't know how it's going to be used.

Speaker 2:

Librella oh my gosh, just horrible stuff, um and there's so many other things you can do. I think a lot of times these drugs are sold on convenience, um and well, and the vets are making a grundle of money. I think I think I had a client tell me it's over like a hundred dollars. Like she had tried like little umbrella way back when it first came out and um, it's like like a hundred dollars. Like she had tried like the labrella way back when it first came out and um, it's like over a hundred dollars or something to go in every month. So they're making a grundle of money on it. People like it, they're willing to pay because it's convenience.

Speaker 2:

I don't have to worry about giving my pet um, giving my pet drugs. But there's options. Like I said, pancreatitis should be fully treatable. You don't need to give these experimental drugs Arthritis. I mean nothing makes arthritis go away if it's bad enough. But there's herbs and there's just the diet change. Just getting them on the raw diet, getting the weight off of them, getting them down to a lean body mass, makes a huge difference. And there's herbs, turmeric, cbd, there's all sorts of things you can add in that will. That will help, um, help decrease that inflammation. Green lip muscle I've got a green lip muscle. Um, deer antler velvet product that I learned about at the conference I went to last year. A guy in New Zealand sells it. They raise their own deer and harvest the velvet and all that stuff. So, um, so supplements like that can be really useful. So there's so many options but your conventional vet isn't going to tell you about it, unfortunately, because they just want to sell you the drugs because that's easy and that's where they make their money. That's right.

Speaker 1:

So tell all your friends, friends right, that have overweight dogs, they have dogs with extreme behavioral issues, and I'm not talking about just panting, but I'm talking about, you know, they just can't settle. I it again. I have to tell you, nothing makes me angrier than people who feed their dogs and they love their dogs, okay, or they wouldn't feed them. There there's this symbiotic, you know. They're like oh, I just I feel so good when I give my dog more sugar and their dogs are jacked up on sugar and then they get in trouble for not acting correct, or they get a shot caller, or they get this or they get that.

Speaker 1:

Now, I'm not saying I'm against shot callers on the. In the hands of the right person at the right time, on the right animal, they're very, um, effective and you don't have to, you know, use them for very long. But I'm just saying why? Why are we feeding the wrong food that jacks up your dog? They don't act right. How are they going to get all of that out of their body, right? And then, without acting up, they can't concentrate, they got brain fog, um, they got arthritis, their body hurts, and then you get on to them. I'm sorry, that's wrong.

Speaker 2:

That's wrong well, it's just like children too. They, you know children's eat. Children eat, you know, pop tarts for breakfast and sugary snacks and and soft drinks. Even, you know, like your kool-aids and stuff, a lot of your fruit juice products have a lot of added sugar to them and then they're expected to sit in school for six or seven hours a day and then, when they don't, they give give them drugs. Oh, they must have ADD or ADHD. We've got to drug them so that they. It's tragic because if they just well change the diet and then let kids, kids need to be out, running around out in nature.

Speaker 2:

I've been learning about the Waldorf schools that Rudolf Steiner started, where kids are out, they spend a lot of time outside, they're learning to be creative, learning to be artistic, whatever they're drawn to. That's what they're allowed to develop, and then they're interested and not just sitting and memorizing a bunch of meaningless stuff. And I think we need to remember that dogs need their correct, you know, activities based on their breed. I mean herding. Dogs like to herd things, they're active, they want a job to do, they want to be, they want to stay busy, they're. They don't they're. They're not designed to lay around the house, you know, until you decide okay, now it's convenient for me to take my dog for a walk, so we'll go do some activity.

Speaker 2:

You know you have to think about what, what your dog is meant to do naturally. Hunting dogs are bred to hunt, they're meant to be out running all day. You know, and I think, unfortunately, a lot of dogs are so dumbed down by vaccines and poor diets and being overweight and they're not healthy. They lose a lot of that, a lot of that drive, and it's it's. It's really sad. It's really sad. The dogs and the kids are just expected to be like just zombies and not do anything, not do their natural thing.

Speaker 1:

I think if I had kids, they would have to march, March every night like our soldiers Around the block at least three times. Is that cruel?

Speaker 2:

I think you get some really funny looks from your neighborhood.

Speaker 1:

All right, everybody. Well, thanks so much for listening to the podcast today. Remember, you can give your dog better, lots better, way better, if you just head head over to a ha vetcom, right? Because even even this, this Dobie with the, with the diapers, I think that there's some things that Dr Jasek can suggest and recommend that maybe we get out of the diapers, and we would love to know that. Right, we'd like to see the before and after pictures. Now you see the panties, now you don't. Maybe they call them boxers for the, for the Dobies.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. Tidy whities.

Speaker 1:

Right, Tidy whities, Get your dog on a species appropriate diet, and when I say species appropriate, I mean that's the way they were created to eat. We have not um, um um dogs. They haven't evolved to eat processed food, have you? Have you evolved to eat processed food to the point that it makes you healthy? You know how many people wish that were true, so that they could eat donuts and pop darts and cakes.

Speaker 2:

The problem is they get addicted to it.

Speaker 1:

I know, I think dogs do too.

Speaker 2:

I think, dogs and cats. They get addicted to that sugar high. They say sugar can be more addictive than like heroin and cocaine in some animals and some people. It can be really hard to get off of that because you get like this rush. You just feel so good after you've had that donut or that piece of chocolate and then you you crash down, you want that fix again and it was like, well, it's just food, but people get addicted to it and then they eat more and eat more, eat more. I've heard that, like the high fructose corn syrup, which actually you will find in a lot of pet products too, if you read the actual ingredients um, actually makes you hungrier, so they it's one of the reasons they put it in soft drinks. You go to the fast food restaurant and you know you start sucking down your, your coke or whatever you're drinking and then you just want, man, just supersize me, because now I'm really, really hungry and I can't walk as a dog.

Speaker 1:

Okay, my tummy is about to drag on the ground, but I sure do love me. Some pump ups. Oh my gosh, stop it, stop it, as Bob Newhart would say. Just stop it, stop it, stop it. All right, everybody, get over to raw dog food and companycom. Remember, brian can help you. It is not confusing. Brian's awesome, brian's awesome, brian's awesome. You're going to be a raw feeding guru in bada, bing, bada, bing. Nothing flat, it is nothing to it. It's so simple. Way simpler than feeding kibble and watching your dog blow up like a blowfish. Okay, so we don't want to do that.

Speaker 2:

We don't, we don't want to do that, we just we don't run to eat fish, not look like one.

Speaker 1:

All right, everybody, get over to raw dog food and companycom, where your pet's health is our business. And what, dr jacek, our friends? Don't let friends feed kibble y'all. That's right. We'll see you next week. Everybody, bye-bye, oh snap find out how you can start your dog on the road to health and longevity. Go to raw dog food and companycom, where friends don't let friends feed kibble and where your pet's health is our business.

Speaker 2:

Just snap.

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