The Raw Dog Food Truth

The Raw Revolution: Why Real Food Matters for Your Pets

The Raw Dog Food Truth

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Are you ready to challenge everything you thought you knew about your dog's diet? In this captivating episode, we delve into the surprising world of canine nutrition, guided by DeDe Murcer Moffett and the insights from Dr. Judy Jasek, DVM. We explore the compelling reasons to reconsider processed kibble as a dietary staple for dogs and examine the benefits of transitioning to a raw food diet.

Get prepared for a mind-opening discussion that tackles misbeliefs surrounding kibble, pointing out its numerous fillers and potential health risks. With a strong emphasis on common sense and nutrition, the episode highlights how real food can be the cornerstone of a dog's health and longevity. We consider nutrient density, the body’s detox processes, and how raw feeding can lead to better digestive health in our furry friends. Don't let your dog fall victim to poor diet choices; tune in to find out how real food can enhance their vitality!

Essentially, this episode serves as a passionate call to action for pet parents everywhere. Learn to trust your instincts, educate yourself on pet nutrition, and make empowered decisions that favor fresh, unprocessed food for your canine companions. As we navigate this vital topic, we invite you to engage with us, share your thoughts, and connect over the journey toward a healthier lifestyle for our pets. Join us for this transformative conversation—your dog will thank you!

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Speaker 1:

Oh snaps. Well, hello Relfeaters. I'm Deedee Merson-Moffitt, ceo of a raw dog feeding company. We're Pets, health is our business and we're friends, like my friend, dr Judy Jasik, how do I get you on the video pointing to the? There she is right there. She doesn't let friends feed kibble. Good morning, dr Jasik. How are you?

Speaker 2:

Good morning, Good, good, here can I?

Speaker 1:

I'm going to unblur my screens.

Speaker 2:

Everybody can see me out in my camper.

Speaker 1:

Dr Jasek, we know what's happening. We know what's happening. You are afraid of the bird flu and you've put yourself in a bubble.

Speaker 2:

I can see it right now. I'm the bubble vet. I'm the bubble vet.

Speaker 1:

You're ever loving bird flu mind. What are you doing out? There by the way you're ever loving bird flu mind.

Speaker 2:

What are you doing out there, by the way? Oh, we got our house. Our house is being painted and, um, so there's noise, there's sanding, it's stinky and there's guys running around all over the place. Today they were painting, like the outside doors, like along our deck. So in my bedroom, I mean, when I was getting dressed I locked myself in the bathroom and pulled the shade down so I knew they weren't going to come in there. But then I'm out in my bedroom, you know, and then they're outside, you know, looking in the window. I mean, they were intentionally looking, they're just they're painting, cause we've got a door from our bedroom that goes out onto our deck and all that. So out here I can just be in my bubble and, and you know it's, um, it's okay. I have a lot of fond memories. We've done a lot of really fun camping trips in this camper. So you know it's, it's okay. It's not the most comfortable office seating, but you know it's, it's okay yeah, it's cool, it's.

Speaker 1:

That's very smart to take yourself out of the area that is got a lot of toxins going on in there, right?

Speaker 2:

oh yeah, paint beams, everything like that, that's awesome, just it's just the chaos, just the constant yeah chris can deal with it, my husband, he can. He can just focus on what he's doing and block out all sorts of things, even me. So well, he's a man, he's a man and that's what men do.

Speaker 1:

They just are like, you know, because if they were going into battle, they got to be focused on what their mission is right singular focus, but just us women, you know, we got like 9 000 things going around all at once, right, right, we, we do, we do. Here comes my coffee, coming in from out of the show. Thank you, babe, Thanks Hi.

Speaker 2:

Rick, we're actually on recording.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, babe. I like that when the coffee gods disappear, right.

Speaker 2:

That is awesome. How is it getting better than that? Huh. Right, hey you know what needs to get better, dr Jasek, what needs to get better dr?

Speaker 1:

jasic.

Speaker 2:

What needs to get better common sense as mark didn't mark twain say common sense ain't so common anymore.

Speaker 1:

All the way back then all the way back, then he said that we were losing common sense all the way back then okay, I just you know, okay, folks does. Okay, if you, dr Jasek, let's just talk about this for a second. If you're sick and unwell, in whatever way you want to say, what would you say as a medical professional, maybe even just as a normal human being that has common sense? Processed food's going to make you healthier, heal faster, or is real food going to be the optimal choice? What do you think?

Speaker 2:

Well, my common sense would tell me that real food would make me feel better, because that's what our body is meant to eat. However, that doesn't seem to be the mainstream way of thinking.

Speaker 1:

Okay when dogs are eating raw. There's a common thought for some dogs that stop eating raw or or they'll have whatever issue they're going to have in in the digestive area. And and people will say my dogs can't digest raw. And I'm befuddled, very befuddled, by that comment, Dr Jasek. Why would raw, real food not be able to be digested better than chemicals, cakes and cookies? Right Got me. I thought you were going to give us a really great answer there. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know answer there. Don't know, I don't know I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know it doesn't make it. It doesn't, it doesn't make any sense, and I hear this all the time too. People will pick apart, like what's in the raw food, like ground bone or the organs, or there's too much copper, because it's copper storage disease, that like. When I was in vet school they said that like you might see one of these in your whole career, maybe two now it's like very commonly diagnosed. So then everybody's like anything with any copper in it. You know it's got to be bad. So we can't feed organs and we can't feed this. Why doesn't anybody ever pick apart the 60 ingredients in a typical bag of kibble?

Speaker 2:

they don't go down that list. What is beet pulp or chicken meal or chicken liver flavor? Nobody ever scrutinized. They don't even know what those are. At least these are real ingredients. Okay, I know what bone is, I know what what liver is, I know what heart is, I know what meat is. But you can't go down that list. Nobody knows. I don't even know what most of that stuff even means. They don't want us to know. And then you get this whole list of chemicals that they call vitamins and minerals, but nobody ever scrutinizes where that comes from. But nobody ever scrutinizes where that comes from. Why is that? I don't understand.

Speaker 1:

Because there's this school of thought that that's safe Raw food is dangerous and that is why the cooked foods for dogs are very popular and void of nutrition, high in the carbs, high in the fillers. But it satisfies the pet parents. Now here's another factor. When we hear that a dog has digestive issues, pretty much most of those dogs have been vaccinated up the wazoo, lots of toxins that have been put into their bodies, all in the name of safety. Got to make sure the dog is safe from rabid squirrels, raccoons, bats don't forget the lepto in the squirrel pee oh, yes, that too because dogs drink, drink, squirrel pee all the time.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, when they're thirsty, come on, it's just a, you know. But I'm just, I, just, um, and and we're very condescending today and I, I on on purpose, because I just don't get it. Guys, what we, we need to snap out of it. We got to snap out. Where's the common sense? I'm not feeling well. Therefore, give me, give me, give me some toxins, dr Jaycee. Let me have some toxins. And and let me have some, um, fried food, some very processed food. I don't have a clue what's in it. We call that comfort food most of the time, right, um and uh, let me see if I feel better. I, I, I don't know, I, I can't, I can't. After this many years of doing raw, doing the podcast, consulting with folks, I just have to say, okay, go.

Speaker 2:

And and you know the reason I think we get condescending it's because we just want to help the pets. But we can't help the pets unless we get through to the humans. And the humans just don't see this. And this isn't just opinion. We've seen so many pets turn around eating fresh food that we know it's healthier for them. I know it's healthier for them.

Speaker 2:

The ones that appear to have issues with it, you know, maybe get some diarrhea or something. It's because their bodies have been so compromised by all the other crap that has been put into them over the years and that doesn't just go away. And people are. The conventional medicine has trained people to think well, I just want that magic fix because there's drugs that'll make symptoms go away, but all those that's suppressing the symptoms just drives the illness deeper. We need to look at what is the body telling us. So there's diarrhea. What is diarrhea? Diarrhea, in most cases is detox. Body's trying to kick something out that it doesn't want. And in the case of raw food, it's not that the raw food is the problem, it's that the body's trying to get rid of all the other toxins that have been put into it for years and years, and years.

Speaker 1:

You know it is a tough conversation, even a tougher concept to think, oh, my dog has loose poops, they're sick. Okay. Now I contend that, as you and I know, that's that if you have been feeding a blend with bone and all of a sudden you decide you're going to feed a blend with no bone, yeah, you're probably going to see some loose poops. If you're feeding raw and you do like what I did, and you give your pup a handful of hearts, you know, and, and then they have loose poops. You're like, and I'm talking about really loose. I'm like what did I just do? You know, let me step back and think what did I do? What's been going on? Ah, I gave a handful of hearts. What was I thinking? One heart would have been enough. I'm talking about a turkey heart for Lazi.

Speaker 1:

But I'm just like I don't have that knee jerk reaction to take my dog to the vet. I just don't. That's not something I do. So I think that's sort of a lifestyle in a belief system and a experience right To say whether I'm going to look at my dog as sick. I don't ever see going to look at my dog as sick. I don't ever see, even at the time that she goes outside and wants to eat some grass or has loose poops or occasionally, once in a blue moon, is going to do the herpes. I'm like she's not sick. This is the body's natural thing that it does.

Speaker 2:

Let it do it. Well, you know what, if I have loose poops, I don't go running off to the doctor. I say what did I eat different the last couple of days? Did I eat something? That's the very first thing and that's what most people I know think. Oh, maybe it's that Mexican food I had last night. Yeah, that's it, the extra spicy with all the jalapenosenos. That's probably why I got loose poops today. You know, we think about that as humans, but with the dogs it's like, oh my gosh, better run off to the vet and get drugs and put them on antibiotics or put them on something some pharmaceutical, because that's the way veterinarians are programmed. I actually remember this was years ago I remember sitting at a conference and I was in like a practice management lecture and they said your clients expect to walk out of your office with a bottle of pills and if you don't give them a bottle of pills, they're not going to be happy and they'll go someplace else because they want that bottle of pills.

Speaker 1:

That's how vets are taught to run their businesses that's exactly what what um amanda, our daughter, has said. When I have said why, why do it what? Why, why are we giving those antibiotics? Because people want something? Yeah, right, exactly. So I had this tooth done, dr jason, where I had it yanked out of my head right, didn't didn't want it yanked out of my head Right, didn't want it yanked out. But they were like, yeah, you don't have a choice. Yeah, you always have a choice. You could hold on to it and have pain. But they were like it's cracked all the way down. You got extras.

Speaker 2:

You got lots of spares, so just one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's a big hole still. And there's a big hole still. Okay, they gave me antibiotics, hydrocodone. Did I take any of it? Absolutely not. Took none of it. And they would say, oh, you've got to take the antibiotics in case it gets infected. And I'm like, well, if it gets infected, then I'll take the antibiotics, but I'm going gonna let the body do its job, right. And and even when I've had some other little minor surgeries, they say, now listen, guys, don't you know you got to make your own decision. They're like did he tell me not to give my dog antibiotic and she't she die? I'm not giving you medical advice. I'm telling you a story of my life, of me, of what I do, because this is the lifestyle that I choose. Right, because why? I'm not afraid of bacteria, not afraid of I can give medical advice.

Speaker 2:

Okay, there it is. Because I got this, I can put I got this little certificate that I got that I paid a whole lot of money for many, many years ago. This is, I can give medical advice there you go and there's no benefit to the prophylactic use of antibiotics. What is prophylactic means? It means just in case, oh does it, I thought it meant through the mouth.

Speaker 1:

What does prophylactic mean actually?

Speaker 2:

just in case you, just as a preventative, like prophylactic means. So if you're if you're doing prophylaxis, you're doing preventative. So you know, dog gets bit by another dog and they go in right away and get everything cleaned up. Well, just in case this gets infected, let's give antibiotics. That's called prophylactic use of of anything.

Speaker 1:

Wow, I learned something new today, see yeah, that's.

Speaker 2:

That's why I need you, that's why the world needs.

Speaker 1:

Dr Jacey, thank you.

Speaker 2:

I told you, we go to medical school to learn the big words.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you do, and then we sound smart.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to be smart, you just have to be able to say the big words and everybody thinks you're smart.

Speaker 1:

Well, I disagree. You have to be smart. Now some people may shut the dogs as well, but let's just say this Dr Jasek, I don't do the prophylactics thing, just in case I decide I'm not going to take it unless I have a problem. Can I get on top of that problem with antibiotics in the event that I do have a problem? Can I get on top of that problem with antibiotics in the event?

Speaker 2:

that I do have a problem. Well, if you believe that the body can heal, I mean, why give the body something that it doesn't need? That's going to further harm? I mean, that's the other part of this is is that prophylaxis benign or is there potential harm to come of it?

Speaker 2:

In the case of a tooth removal like in animals most of the time teeth that need to come out they are infected or there's bacteria there, because the tooth has broken down and the ligaments between the root and the bone have broken down, so the tooth's loose, so there is a bunch of bacteria growing in there. But the reason that's happening is because that tooth is diseased. And if you remove the tooth, you're removing the problem and then the body can come up and or come in and clean up the rest, because the body knows how to do that. If you do the antibiotics just in case, well, first of all you're hammering the gut, so you're actually impeding the body's ability to get in there and clean up any unwanted bacteria or clean up this tooth removal site with the antibiotics. So you're actually doing more harm than good. In the interest of for supposedly preventing a problem.

Speaker 1:

you actually could be creating more problem which is exactly what they said when they took this tooth out. They're like, oh, there's some bacteria in there, we're going to clean it out, okay you clean it out and do your job, whatever that is.

Speaker 1:

And they packed it right Because they're like well, you have to have an implant. Nothing you can do about that. If you decide to have an implant or you just leave a hole in your face, I don't know, but there's still an opening there. Am I worried about it? I am not. And yet they have said the human mouth is the dirtiest thing. There's so much bacteria in there. I'm like, well, okay, obviously it knows what it's doing and I'm not taking one antibiotic because I, like you, believe that that's how the body heals.

Speaker 1:

They took it out. If it was cracked and there was a hole that went all the way straight down, there was maybe something that was festering. Who knows, whatever, it's still a little sore, but do I worry about it? No, you know what I do. I gargle with sea salt from Dran, the seawater, the ibiza seawater. I love it. Actually, this is kind of gross, but what I do is I squish it around in my mouth and then I just swallow it, because that's what you're supposed to do with that seawater is. Take a little bit of it every day and they say it's like blood plasma. Right, it's, it's.

Speaker 2:

It's amazing I've heard that that seawater is the same as, like the natural fluid in our body yeah, yeah, now you don't want to take a ton of it.

Speaker 1:

You're probably going to be, you know, have a little loose stool and then you're going to go get something for that loose stool. No, you're more into right. So that's, that's the again there. There is nothing that I'm going to be able to say to a pet parent that's going to convince you any differently. If you call, just tell us what you want us to say and we'll say it. I don't think I'm going to be able to convince you that real food, ie raw, is healthier for your dog than any kind of prescription, or kibble or cooked. I'm not going to be able to do that. That comes from my belief, my research and my 25 years experience. I also do not know what else you're putting into your dog, whether you think that the vaccines and the preventatives and the prophylactics are safe, or whether you think that the vaccines and the preventatives and the prophylactics are safe, or whether you think that they're they're good, they they have a repercussion on the body. I'm not going to be able to to talk you out of that.

Speaker 2:

So even if you feel like you have to do them because you hear that. You know well I had to why they're just as bad for the body. Yeah, number one there are no have-tos. You made a choice. You decided I don't want to learn how to groom my dog. I want to take my dog to the groomer. My groomer requires a rabies shot, so you get the rabies shot. Well, you could have made another choice and said you know what? I'm going to go buy some clippers and I'm going to figure out how to do this because it's important to me that I give dog rabies shot. I want to take my dog on an airplane and I have to get the rabies shot. Well, put your dog in a car or you don't travel internationally with your car. You can make different choices. There's no have to. You're making a choice based on your lifestyle and you know and your preferences.

Speaker 2:

I have many clients that don't vaccinate their pets and they figure it out. They just say I'm not, I'm not going on vacation anywhere that I can't take my dogs because I'm not going to vaccinate them, to put them in a boarding kennel. If I can't find somebody to stay home with them, I'm going somewhere where I can take my dogs and I'm going to stay in pet friendly motels. And and end of story, because they're firm in that, in their stance, that they don't want to vaccinate their dog, so it can be done and have to, doesn't change the side effects. It's like, well, I had to, so must be the raw food. Right, that's making my dog sick because I had to give it, so it can be the vaccine that's making my dog sick. Must be the raw food. Does that make any sense? Is there any common sense in that at all? Must?

Speaker 1:

be so. It's not the mercury, it's not all of the adjuvants, it's not all of the crap that's in there right right now. Now I will say this Maybe you've been feeding a blend for a really long time. I hear this one. It never has affected them before. Okay, it is now. Maybe this blend doesn't work for them at the moment. Maybe we need to switch blends. Perfectly fine. The other thing is perfectly fine. If you want to warm it up, you want to slightly cook it I hate that word, cook but you want to put it in the pan and make it a little, a little less raw. Be my guest, do it. Do it, but I am never going to, am never going to agree that cakes, cookies and chemicals can be digested better and are better for your dog's health than what they were made to eat.

Speaker 2:

Can't do it, dr chasing sorry me either, even when I mean I'll have clients come back and tell me well, if I kibble, my dog's goops are better. So I don't have an exact explanation for that, but I still don't think it's better. And I think actually the reason for that is that kibble is so unhealthy that the body's detoxification pathways aren't working and you feed a healthy diet and now the body can actually detox, can actually get rid of all those chemicals and the body. You know, when we start to feed raw, they lose body fat. Well, chemicals, toxins are stored in the fat. So when dogs and I've seen this many times they trim down, they get this nice lean body mass. They don't have that kibble fluff, that fat layer.

Speaker 2:

When all that goes away, well, there's toxins in there. Body's going to flush out. The body has just so many ways to get rid of toxins. They can pee them out, poop them out. Humans can sweat them out. Dogs can't sweat them out, but they get skin rashes and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

There's just so many ways that they can get rid of these toxins and so that is what I think is going on. The body's finally like, okay, let's dump all this stuff. It's not that the raw food's making them sick. It's that the raw food's making the body healthier and the body's able to get rid of all those toxins and put them back on kibble and the poops might look better. But now the body healthier and the body's able to get rid of all those toxins and put them back on kibble and the poops might look better, but now the body's holding on to all those toxins which down the road is going to turn into, you know, potentially cancer or some other chronic disease and then the lipomas come and the lipomas come and then we go get them taken out.

Speaker 1:

Then we do an unnecessary anesthesia or whatever else they're going to put in the body. Just take out the trash, because the body's trying to take out the trash. So you're going to Look how compounded this is Right. So I have a dog. I'm afraid of raw. I'm going to feed it crap. Not only am I going to feed it crap, I'm afraid they're going to get sick. So I'm going to feed it crap. Not only am I going to feed it crap, I'm afraid they're going to get sick. So I'm going to put all the toxins in them and then I get the kibble fluff and the lipomas. And now I get to take them back in and put more toxins in them and expose them to a surgery that they don't need, and then we're going to get more toxins to put in their body to help them get over that.

Speaker 1:

Because I love them, I love them, I want them to be here forever. They ain't going to be here forever. If you do that, at least not healthily. I mean, look, I walk here every day. We walk four miles and we walk where there are tons of dogs. I have never in my life seen so many obese. There is a lab and Dr Jasek, he cannot even hardly walk because he's so fat. And she says to me one day wish my dog was as as athletic as yours. And I am just like I should have a card to hand out. I can help you, I can help you help your dog. But again, if, if they've gone to their vet and their vet has said put your animal on this.

Speaker 1:

We were talking to somebody yesterday. They have cats and she was saying, well, what do I? What do I do? Cats eat raw. And we're like, yeah, more so, they need to eat raw, more so than than even dogs. And she was like, well, my vets, because their cat was doing this. You know, regurgitation, right? Would the vet put them on hydrolyzed protein? Their cat was doing this regurgitation, right? What did the vet put them on? Hydrolyzed protein? Their cat is two years old and already having to go in and get all of this tartar built up removed. And I was at. This is a excuse me. This is a food issue. Well, my vet is not for the raw. Okay, there's not a doggone thing, not a sphincter thing in the world I can do about that.

Speaker 2:

Dr jay said okay, you gotta make it. You gotta make a choice. Who are you gonna believe? They might not want to believe the lady walking down the street with the shirt on, even though her dog looks fantastic.

Speaker 2:

I mean, just look at the proof. You're like, okay, well, this is what you could get. I mean, not that their lab's going to turn into a german shepherd, but you could get a nice, lean, fit dog like this, right? But oh my, that says that I shouldn't do that. Okay, well, you asked. I mean, all you can do is give people the information. That's, that's what I'm getting to like. I think you said I'm not going to try to convince people one way or another.

Speaker 2:

I think the biggest paradigm shift that we need is that there's like this ego trip in the medical professions that health is created. Health is not created. God got it right. God made our bodies, our pet's bodies, absolutely perfect.

Speaker 2:

The reason we get illness is because we've interrupted that. Something has disrupted those normal processes in the body and it usually started very, very young. A lot of times, with these six and eight week vaccines started on kibble, really young. It starts very young and it builds up where all these mechanisms that god put in our bodies to keep them healthy get disrupted, and they get disrupted for years and years and years. It's hard to fix it. It doesn't fix overnight, but we don't create health.

Speaker 2:

Health is the natural state of the body. This is the. You know the whole antibiotic thing. Well, the doctor, like I'm going to give you the pills to keep your body healthy, because your body doesn't know what it's doing. But your body cannot figure this out. You know, let's kick out bacteria we don't want, keep the bacteria we do want. Like, body can't, can't do that right, so we're going to give it a bunch of drugs because it doesn't know how to stay healthy. The body knows how to stay healthy on its own that no, no, no disrupted the body is lacking, dr jay, sick mercury adjuvants.

Speaker 1:

It is absolutely lacking in that and craving that right. There's a lack of it in your body, so we're just going to go ahead and put it in. They're going to make your dog all well right, right, yep, yep, that antibiotic deficiency.

Speaker 2:

It's that amoxicillin deficiency yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So let's talk a tad bit about elevated liver enzymes, because I hear this a lot. Right, so, dogs not eating we go in, we get these elevated liver enzymes. People freak out, but you know what? Um and I am taking this from an article that I found from dogs, naturally, but um, we've talked about this many, many times. Okay, what causes elevated liver enzymes in dogs? You want to know what? The first um three things are, dr Jacek, I do. You do, okay, medications, vaccine adjuvants that we were just talking about and endocrine disrupting chemicals, but they also, um, kibble, kibble diets right.

Speaker 2:

So they're saying what?

Speaker 1:

what? That's just wrong. Um, so they're saying, you know, like people want to say, oh my gosh, I'm feeding a raw diet and my dog's got these elevated liver enzymes. What's in that raw food? Eating a raw diet and my dog's got these elevated liver enzymes? What's in that raw food? No, no, no. It's not in the medications that we just gave the dogs, you know, like the phenobarbital maybe that they're taking for seizures or heartworm medications or anti-inflammatory drugs, right? No, no, no, no, no, no. Not causing these elevated liver enzymes Prednisone.

Speaker 2:

I've had clients come into me because their dog has elevated liver enzymes Prednisone. I've had clients come in to me because their dog has elevated liver enzymes. You know, of course I'm looking at the records and everything and like your dog's still on prednisone, yeah Well, did your vet tell you that that'll raise the liver enzymes? Because the vet now wants to do like a liver biopsy or something because it got these elevated enzymes. Well, did the vet mention that prednisone could maybe be raising those enzymes? Well, the vet mentioned that prednisone could maybe be raising those?

Speaker 1:

oh no, they didn't mention that, you know. So you want to talk about vaccine adjuvants? Uh, in this article they were saying the aluminum hydroxide adjuvant adjuvant, adjuvant also triggers the motor neuron autoimmunity issue seen in gulf war syndrome sufferers. Okay, and uh, this syndrome has been found to be indistinguishable from the autoimmune disease als um. And and they said, the aluminum hydroxide also causes a loss of mitochondria and cell death in mouse livers exposed to low doses of the hep B vaccine. So you want to talk about all of these adjuvants? I mean, you could go on forever talking about what they do, right.

Speaker 1:

And then you come back to my dog needs cakes, cookies and chemicals in order to digest the food. And it's the question in this article says can dog food cause elevated liver enzymes? And it's saying, yeah, the dangerous mycotoxins and aflatoxins in kibble dog food affects the liver, causing jaundice, weight loss, lethargy and the those toxins can be life threatening. Also the synthetic vitamins, minerals, pesticides, other toxins. You know your dog's body has to work really hard to detox that, as you were talking about. Right, they may not feel well after they're getting off all that crap, getting on a raw diet. And then people are like, oh, it's making my dog sick, and then you push it right back towards the stuff that is not good for them, right? And the question in this article says so. What do you feed a dog with high liver enzymes? I don't know, dr Jasek. What do you think it says?

Speaker 2:

Probably the same thing. I'd recommend a healthy dog eat, because a healthy diet is a healthy diet and the liver needs healthy food more than ever if the liver enzymes are elevated. Just a guess what they say.

Speaker 1:

That's exactly right. It says you can feed a diet that supports the liver and that's a fresh, whole food, raw, meat-based diet without synthetic chemicals Right. And if you want to support the liver, dr Jasek, you have great herbs, things like milk, thistle and all these different types of things that you can support that. But I would say, before you go down this crazy, you know, giving your dogs all these things and continuing to put the, the major offenders in their body, switch the diet, pull the toxins out, then let's have a look-see, right?

Speaker 2:

and not only the chemicals, but for people that have their dog on 20 or 30 quote-unquote natural supplements, like I think you can overload I know you can overload the liver with even natural things. Um, that you know. Sure, they're herbs and they're all this stuff, but you're giving the body so much to process and the liver has to work to process that stuff. So if I have a client come in and their dog has elevated liver enzymes and I look at their supplement list and it's like 20 long, I'm like anything that's not medically necessary, like there's some things don't just pull them off, cold turkey, anything else we stop it. Stop them, get them on a healthy diet and then we recheck those liver enzymes.

Speaker 2:

And a lot of people don't like to hear that because they want to know what's the next thing I'm going to add to get the liver enzymes down. People don't often think in terms of what do I need to take out? It's like what else can I put in here? Because I got these list of 10 other supplements I was thinking about buying. Which ones do you think I should get now to support the liver? It's like no, no, no, we got to take stuff out. We get a new baseline and then we see if the liver enzymes are still elevated, okay, then we can add in something specific for liver support. But a lot of times we're just overloading the liver. And then when we get those things, get those things out, we're not overloading the liver. And then we do more appropriate supplementation, the liver enzymes come down.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I really do think that we have to take it one step at a time and every step that we take, give it some space, breathe. You know what I'm saying, like it's, it's my, my sweet mom. You know she, she's going through some some back problems and this and that some different anxiety problems, and she really is very wants something for it right now. And I'm like, mom, are you doing the exercises? Are you eating correctly? Are we doing, you know? Are we doing? Know, are we doing? Well, no, but you know, it's kind of like I just need if they would just give me this thing over here, then I'd be okay.

Speaker 1:

And you know, watching family members that are going through some major illnesses right now, when the body is going through a healing phase, it's's painful, it can be painful and it can be painful for a dog and you have to work back up to health. But a lot of Americans don't want to do the work or to be patient. Right, and being patient is work in itself, it just is right. It's being patient and kind of waiting and seeing what we're going to do, and it's hard and it's frightening.

Speaker 1:

And I think the other thing too, dr Drasik, is there's a real lack of trust in our medical industry, and rightly so. They've earned that. Okay, so they've earned that, okay, they've earned that. And, um, I mean, just look at this whole avian flu, look at the covid, um, you know, so it's, it's tough and that's why I really think that working with dr jacek's group aha vetcom, aha, vetcom is very essential, effective, uh, for you as a pet parent, because she can say the big words and four or five syllables, bring them on let me see what I can do.

Speaker 1:

I can't do any of it, but I but I'm not here to dispel medical advice, okay, but dr jason giz, okay. So we, we at raw dog feeding company, what we're gonna give you is how to feed your dogs and cats appropriately, and we're going to give you that information based on research and experience and a whole body of evidence. So I'm not going to be able to compete with the vets that have just come out of school and have no experience. I can't. I can't compete with that because they have a white coat and, um, maybe I should have made all of our raw dog food shirts look like white coats right, I should have you know.

Speaker 1:

But but I will say this you know, viore is a uh, I think it's viore, I'm not even sure if that's the right one, but they're making medical wear very comfortable, very, very nice. You know, they're making like leggings and so they are taking off the white coats. I will say that.

Speaker 2:

I used to wear. I used to wear those white coats, but you know what, when you're working with pets, they're not white for about 10 minutes, and then you got hair and you got dirt and you got, you get pee. I mean, come on like I. I gave that up because I mean that's just not very practical. Maybe if you're working on people and you don't like have to actually touch your patients stuff, um, maybe that, maybe that works. But, um, I have one occasionally if I want to, you know, like pictures, but I don't even do that anymore. I just think natural is better.

Speaker 1:

Hey, why did you want to be a vet?

Speaker 2:

You know, I I really I've really enjoyed learning like how the body works. I think that was that initial curiosity Cause I'm like I was like curious, like you know, how does this, you know this stuff work? I think it more started with like that curiosity like how does that body work, how does that stuff work? And then I don't know, I was always more drawn to helping animals more than people. I think it's because, like people got brains, you know, like they can figure stuff out.

Speaker 2:

Animals are subject to what their people think and what their people decide. I mean, put three dishes of food down for your dog, like you're cooked like farmer's dog and you're raw in your kibble and see what your dog wants to eat. You know, maybe like, try that, eat all three. The lab, they probably eat all three, um, but they're not given that choice. You know they can't tell you, hey, when I eat that I just don't, you know, I just don't feel good. So so pets, it seems like, need more, more help. You know, getting getting the right care. So being an advocate for pets, um, I don't know, was more appealing to me than than working with people. However, with what I finally figured out, those, all these pets come attached to a human to talk to the people anyway right, right and and and again.

Speaker 1:

I contend that many times when, when folks are asking for advice, I just need to ask them what they want me to say. What do you want me to say today? Here's the things that I'm not going to be able to agree with you on, and I should just list it out. Not going to be able to agree with that, but I will help you. Maybe you need to switch the blend. Okay, that's the first thing. Reduce toxins, not mixing kibble or crappy treats or puppuccinos or, you know, milk or dairy products, um, and stop putting toxins in them now you should have a post this says here's today's answers, just all those things.

Speaker 2:

If you want a different answer, I guess you're gonna have to ask somebody else. These are all the answers I got today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, these are my answers today, tomorrow and the next day they're probably all the same every day these are my answers Right?

Speaker 1:

Right, Slightly cook it if you want. I don't, that's fine. I don't like to waste my money, I don't. I don't want to waste my money or take away the minerals. I do warm my dog food up. I do just to room temperature. And how do I do that? Well, and I'm going to get some pushback on this too but I actually weigh it out, I put it in a plastic bag, I put a bowl of water there and I put the plastic bag in the water and then I just turn it over a couple of times and it just kind of takes that chill off. It's not hot, so that you know the plastics leaching into the dog food, because the people will be saying it's not like that. That's just what I do. And then I take the plastic bag and I just dump it out in the bowl.

Speaker 2:

Well.

Speaker 1:

I'm even lazier than that.

Speaker 2:

I'm even lazier than that. I wait out and then I just take some warm water and just splash it on the food and make it a little soupy.

Speaker 1:

That's what I've done too. I've done that too, and so there's all different ways you know to do it. But, dr Jessica, I just this is what befuddles me in 25 years I have not had a dog not be able to digest raw food and not want their food. I've never, ever had that happen. Now I know that people say it happens. What I, I would love. I wish you know, and I think that Julianne Lee with the Doored Beast, I mean, she had this amazing clinic right At one time where it was like you could come in for all of these different services and I bet and she said that she started kind of seeing that she had to counsel the humans was something that she, but I bet if she had that kind of clinic she could.

Speaker 1:

To counsel the humans was something that she, but I bet if, if, if she had that kind of clinic, she could bring a dog in. Now, she wasn't in the dog food business, she was in the supplement business. But bring a dog in and bring the food and then watch and let me see what's happening and then get a whole list of what was happening in the in her, in the parent's house, which is what she said. I had to get this whole list right. We had to go through this whole checklist of you know what could possibly be the issue.

Speaker 1:

But if you have a group, you have a big group of dogs, of animals, who are not having toxins go in their body. No preventatives go in their body, no chemicals, no synthetics go in their body. No preventatives go in their body. No chemicals, no synthetics go in their body. Which group stops eating? Right? And if you're doing a rotation of proteins and and I still see that people get really stuck on one protein, one blend, and then their dogs are like I'm getting sick of this blend. They're not sick, they're sick and tired of that blend.

Speaker 2:

So just switch it up Right. And what people are putting in? So these same people that are giving these 20 different supplements? If you're putting a bunch of that stuff in the food, the dogs don't get tired of eating all that stuff. I mean, I run into that even on herbs and things that I do recommend. When somebody comes back and says my dog's not eating, are you still putting herbs in the food? If the answer is yes, I said just stop putting the herbs in. I want to know if the dog's eating its food on its own and like 80% of the time they are. They're just, they don't want the herbs and sometimes they get tired of them.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes their body just doesn't need them anymore.

Speaker 2:

I really think that. You know cause I do a lot with Chinese herbal medicine and Chinese herbal medicine is about correcting imbalances in the body. So sometimes we do a blend. For a while We've handled that situation the dog doesn't need it anymore, or cat, and they don't want it anymore. Their body knows that they don't need it anymore, so they don't want it. So. But it's important to know like, so we'll pull that stuff out and then if they go back to eating, fine, said, okay, it's the herbs. If we decide to continue those, then we find other ways of giving them, hide them in a treat or something separate from from the food. But I think sometimes people don't don't think about that either. All this other stuff there that they're adding is a food. It's that the food always gets blamed. It's never the, it's never the other stuff. Like who, who decided that? That it's always the food's fault?

Speaker 1:

well, I have eight dogs, uh, in family members. Okay, eight dogs that I actually make the order for. That means I know what they're eating and it gets sent to them, right, I pick it out and I sent it to them. They never have issues. Um, except I had one say well, you know, she's doing the burpees and she's doing this kind of stuff. And I said let me look at what else you give them.

Speaker 1:

Well, we got these treats from Costco. I said turn the bag over. How many ingredients are in there? Oh, okay, I was like no, no, no, and pull those out, let me know if it changes. Yep, certainly did change. So I pretty much know, you know. And then, of course, we have all of our employees' dogs, right? So I'm watching all of this all the time, listening to my customers, obviously, taking questions, asking that question what are you doing? What vaccines, what preventatives? And I'm telling you, dr jaycee, nine times out of ten, nine and a half times out of ten, it is those other extenuating circumstances that are having a major bearing on their digestive issues.

Speaker 2:

So absolutely, absolutely. I mean I, I would agree almost always, maybe even 95 of the time. It's that now, you know, sometimes, you know, I see cancer patients decline, sure, and they will lose their appetite. Yeah, that's like way end stage up until that point. Then there's, there's something we can work with and most dogs will eat and love the, the, the raw food. I, you know. I do find you're talking about warming it. Um, because that's one of the first questions we ask. If somebody says their dog isn't wanting to eat the food, I see a lot of people that'll just pull it out of the fridge and just stick it in the bowl cold, and that can be hard on digestion.

Speaker 1:

Because what about their teeth If their teeth are something's wrong with their teeth?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if it's an old dog with bad teeth, sure, but that cold actually inhibits the release of the enzymes in the stomach, so you don't want to feed you know something cold, like you know, right out of the right out of the fridge. So we talk a lot about warming it or pour some warm water, like warm bone broth too is another great thing to pour it, because that's real nourishing for the gut too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, these are lots of good tips today for you and our listeners, and let everybody know about the Raw Dog Food Truth Podcast. Listen, we have a great Rumble page as well, where you're going to see the videos out there. Make sure you follow us on Facebook and on X, because we are there as well. Dr Jasek's website is ahavetcom. Ahavetcom. She can certainly give you a second opinion and alternatives Okay, lots and lots of alternatives to the I have to.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so get over there today and get your dog on a species appropriate diet. Brian is there to help you. He's a nutritionist and you can get into a free consult. Even if you're not going to buy from me, I would say that we can help you because we're in the business of helping your pets, so it's a free consult. He'll help you. Remember that if you're coming to us and you're feeding kibble, that's the first thing that we're going to tell you Get off the kibble, Okay, and I don't care if it's prescription food. Somebody said to me the other day well, we're feeding science diet and I said, well, that's called science death in our world.

Speaker 2:

So just FYI, it's all kibble, even the good ones, even the good ones. I feed a really good. I've never heard that a lot I feed kibble, but it's a really good one.

Speaker 1:

I I say what does that mean? Yeah, what does that mean? It costs more. Okay, cost more. I'm gonna increase my prices in it. All right, everybody, get over to raw dog food and companycom, where your pet's health is our business and where what dr jacek?

Speaker 2:

friends, don't let friends feed, kibble y'all that's right, come run the bubble.

Speaker 1:

All right, dr jacek, take care, we'll see you soon. Bye, bye, oh snap. Find out how you can start your dog on the road to health and longevity. Go to rawdogfoodandcompanycom, where friends don't let friends feed kibble and where your pet's health is our business.

Speaker 2:

Just snap.

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