.jpg)
The Raw Dog Food Truth
Pets with allergies, skin issues gut issues, and behavior issues can live better lives by eating a species-appropriate diet. Find out the dangers of kibble and cooked foods. Your Pet's Health Is Our Business "Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble"
The Raw Dog Food Truth
From Kibble to Raw: A Path to Wellness
Obesity is a growing concern for pets, with many owners unknowingly contributing to the problem through their pets' diets and lifestyle choices. The discussion emphasizes the importance of moving away from kibble towards a raw food diet, addressing misconceptions around pet nutrition and exploring the consequences of feeding practices, while also raising awareness about the impacts of veterinary interventions.
• Exploring the high rates of pet obesity
• The negative impact of kibble on pet health
• Understanding the relationship between diet and exercise
• Debunking myths about the necessity of low-fat diets
• The importance of a supportive and nutrient-rich diet
• Addressing issues around vaccines and their effects on pets
• Tips for adopting a holistic approach to pet nutrition
• Guiding pet owners towards better dietary choices
• Engaging in open conversations regarding pet health and weight
• Encouraging pet owners to consider alternative feeding options
Raw Dog Food and Company where Your Pet's Health is Our Business and Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble
Contact Us Today We Can Help Your Pets Live Happier Healthier Lives
Here we go. Well, hello Ralph. I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceo of a raw dog food and company. We're your pet's health is our business, and we're friends. Don't let friends feed kibble. Now do we? Dr Jasek? No way.
Speaker 2:Not, not, ever, not even a little bit, not even a couple little pieces of kibble here and there, not in treats, not in bowls, not on the floor, not anywhere. No green eggs and ham.
Speaker 1:Sam, I am no no, it's so funny how many people I run into out here in Arizona right now who still have never heard of raw. They think that raw is cooked. You know farmer's dog type stuff. They think that that kibble if I think we talked about this on a on a last podcast if it is the type that the breeder use, that they must bring that over and continue using it. I say no, no, no, no. And I got to tell you I don't know that I've seen so many fat dogs that I've seen out here and they literally are struggling to move and I'm just like you are loving them to death and people just they don't want to hurt their dogs.
Speaker 1:The only reason these dogs are fat is because their pet parents think that they're doing some sort of good. That's the only reason they're not. They're not trying to hurt their dogs, they just don't realize that they're fat.
Speaker 2:I see it here all the time too. It's really sad. I mean they're just like you know, kind of waddling around. They're so overweight and there's you could just see their bodies are so inflamed and their joints hurt and like it's. It's really hard for me to find, like a playmate for Rex, cause you know he plays hard and he can outplay just about anybody you know, because he's he's got lots of energy and he's young and even young dogs.
Speaker 2:You run into somebody with a young dog and they look like they're 10 years old because probably all the vaccines that they get, and then these you know horrible, you know horrible kibble diets and even even people that understand health in humans and what's important, what we need to eat to be healthy, just have a hard time extrapolating that to their pets. I mean we talk to people so much about how bad kibble is and why it's important to get them off of it and it's, I mean some people really get it, but people it's, it's a real, it's a real hard sell. I don't know. I don't know why it's so hard to convince people that what's in there is just crap. It's. I mean like people come to me and you know their pet has a cancer diagnosis or autoimmune disease or something like. Well, what have you been doing up to this point? Like, don't you think and a lot of these dogs have been kibble fed Don't you think maybe we need to change something? You know?
Speaker 1:you know I was reading this article from Julianne Lee over at adored beasts and she was saying that 54% of dogs and 59% of cats are considered obese and overweight. Now that's ridiculous. But when you look at you know I'm overweight right now. We were just talking about that, so I got to get myself back on a, on my version of a raw diet. You know that means cut all the processed crap, didi. You know, let's cut all the sugar, right? So it's sugar, it really is sugar and processed foods and when you look at what kibble is, it's all that right, it's terrible. But here are the things in this article that she says and I think that people really understood that obesity in our dogs and our cats has many, many risk of negative effects like cancer, diabetes, heart disease, osteoarthritis, so degeneration of joints, urinary bladder stones, and they're less heat tolerant. Now I would say to all the folks in these very hot States I don't know how hot Tennessee gets in the summer, but you know, dr Jacek, arizona gets like 120 degrees.
Speaker 2:You get crazy hot down there.
Speaker 1:Crazy hot. So it's like do you understand if your dog is fat and overweight? And maybe, maybe it's just that people can't see it right? So, like I've often said, I have this body dysmorphic issue backwards. I think I'm a lot thinner than I am, you know. I look at myself and I go well, it's not too bad. And then I see myself in a picture and I'm just like what? What happened to you? You? You, you know you were doing the hard 75, you, you know you did good. Now, you, you start eating crap again, right, um, but I just don't think that if pet parents really understood what complications come along when their dogs are fat, that that they would keep them fat. Right now, most people say, well, I walk my dog three times a day, okay, but you can't go back home and give them more cakes, cookies and you know, um, all that jazz, and expect to walk it off.
Speaker 2:You've got to change the diet, got to change the diet and you know a little 20 minute walk around the neighborhood or something is not hard exercise, you know. If they're running, you know, but unfortunately a lot of those dogs that get overweight and their joints are so inclined they can't. So that's all they can. They can do is that short walk, but yeah, you can't. I think it's the same in people Like whenever I've tried to lose weight, it's like you can't just exercise at all. Maybe when you were 25, you could but it. You know this age over 60, you know you, you gotta watch, you gotta watch what, what you're eating and you know it's easy to fall into that.
Speaker 2:I do that. I'm that. I'm a stress snacker. You know I get stressed, like I want to nibble, and you know my home office is 20 feet from my kitchen so it's like no, I don't need to eat, I can go for a walk instead of having some comfort food, you know. But I think people like relate what they're feeling to their pet too like, relate what they're feeling to their pet too Like. So a person is maybe nibbling because they feel stressed or they just like to snack. Well, they get those sad eyes and they want to give something, you know, to their pet as well. But yeah, it's, it's so unhealthy. And I think I think people don't know to a large degree what a trim, healthy dog looks like, because you just don't see him, you just. People ask me all the time what breed rex is. I'm like what breed is he?
Speaker 1:german shepherd like you look like a german shepherd they.
Speaker 2:They think he's a melano, belgian melano, because he's he's super lean, I mean he gets tons of exercise here like we're out throwing the ball. We got 10 acres. He's super lean. I mean he gets tons of exercise here. Like we're out throwing the ball, we got 10 acres, he's running around, he gets a lot of exercise, um, and of course, he's raw fat. No, no kibble in this household, that's right um but he's, he's very lean.
Speaker 2:I mean he's just very lean. And I think people are like, is he german? Or like they're confused, because most dogs are so heavy and a lot of the you know, you know the show line shepherds are built heavier. You know they're built stockier. The working lines are, you know, leaner, a little bit leaner built, because they're more athletic. They're built to be more athletic. But I think that overweight dogs, it's just become so normal and I bet it's more than that, you know, 50, some percent, because I'd say around here, I'd say 80% of the dogs I see easily 80% are, are overweight and and I think you know, I think people, it just gets normalized. It's just what people are used to.
Speaker 2:I, um, I've been teaching Rex to run with me and I found this path that we can run on. I'm going to run by this one house and there's this chocolate lab that sometimes sits out front and and he'll, he'll come out here. She, I'm not sure which, but um, come charging out, barking, and I'm like, ohoh, what's this dog gonna do? I swear it runs like halfway across the yard and it's like never mind, you guys could go big. You know overweight, you know I like I could outrun this dog so and it's lab not worried, but doesn't even come to interact. It just comes halfway across the yard and it's like, yeah, nevermind too much effort to worry about somebody running with another dog.
Speaker 1:Well, the other thing is when a dog eats kibble right that high sugar content and how many of these have we looked at, including prescription diets? Um, that are 45, 65% carbs and sugar. Right Now you have this dog who feels hungry all the time. Right, they're getting the sugar cravings and so they're not getting good nutrition and they're already overweight. Because somebody said to me the other day well, my dog seems to be starving all the time, so I just add kibble and I'm like, yeah, they need something, they need something else I've had people say, they just need something, so that they feel full.
Speaker 1:I'm like, well, how about this? How about we switch up and give you a little of the shepherd blend, which is going to have a higher content of fat? And people are like what? No, my dog is overweight, they can't have fat. And I say to them fat is not the thing, fat and protein is not the thing. Now, that makes your dog fat, it is the sugar, it is the sugar content. Whether that is in your crappy treats.
Speaker 1:Okay, if we got hots spots, we got gut issues, we've got poop issues and people tell me they're feeding raw, I'm always going to look right at the treats. What are you doing for treats? Well, we're doing the puppuccino. Yeah, we're doing some greenies. Okay, maybe they get a milk bone. No, you can do better. It's easy to do better, right, it's easy to do better. Right, it's easy. Get yourself a dehydrator If you don't want to buy the treats, the single ingredient treats that we have.
Speaker 1:I mean, we have the bison tripe, we have the lungs, we have the turkey tendons. Right, you got the bully sticks. All of these are clean and single ingredients. But these treats have so much stuff in them that they can wreak havoc. But my point is this that if you, if and I, I I told this customer. I said here here's a thought why don't we take a little shepherd blend? It has a higher level of fat in it and we're not going to do it 24 7, we're not going to do it seven days a week. Maybe we're going to throw a little bit in there, just a tad bit in to the, the, the, the blends that you're already feeding. Maybe you feed a little higher fat once a week. Right, that fat will satiate them. It's animal fat and then, and then you know, people talk about well, I don't want my dog to have pancreatitis. Okay, that's probably not what caused pancreatitis in the first place. Bad eating, lots of toxins in the system. So we just, you know, it's just shifting that mindset, dr Jasek, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2:You know what I? I mean I ate low fat myself for a lot of years and I always like struggle with my weight and my weight will still go up and down some. But since I went, got off the processed carbs and I mean like completely, I hardly ever even eat fruit. I mean I, you know meat veggies, low glycemic veggies mostly. We started eating dairy again, which has been awesome because the cheese is like really really good. I really missed eating. We were off dairy for a while just because of you know hearing, oh, it's not good for you, I'm gluten sensitive. And so I heard a lot of people say well, if you're gluten sensitive, you probably shouldn't eat dairy.
Speaker 2:And then we found this wonderful dairy nearby so we only do raw dairy nice from this wonderful dairy that you know we got rot and it's this A2 milk, so it's supposed to be less reactive and everything and it's. It's just, it's just wonderful. So back to doing that. But I mean I was amazed it's so much easier to maintain a lean body mass when, when you're not eating the carbs, because I think your body and I I eat a lot of fat, like I put ghee in my coffee and all this stuff. I mean I don't know, I quit counting calories and just paid more attention to what I eat and more, actually, more on the protein and fat. But I think your body. Then, because you're dropping the carbs and I think it's the same in pets you're dropping the carbs. You're dropping the carbs and I think this is the same in pets You're dropping the carbs.
Speaker 2:You're literally lowering, lowering your blood sugar, so that forces your body to burn fat and it starts to burn your own fat too. It's burning the fat that you're ingesting, but then it also gets rid of your your own body fat Plus when you eat those sugars, that spikes your insulin and insulin's actually like a fat storage hormone, like insulin. When your insulin keeps getting spiked, it tells your body we got too much sugar here. Let's store it as fat and it's like a survival thing, right, like in the fall, like indigenous peoples and stuff would eat a lot of berries, all this stuff that gets ripe in the fall. They wanted to put on a little fat going in to the winter so that constant. You know that extra sugar spike in the fall, actually put some fat layers on to help keep warm and give them some food reserves for the winter. Bears do right. Life being a bear, you eat like crazy pig out for nine months Wait.
Speaker 1:I've been doing that.
Speaker 2:And then you go to bed. Well here, but you didn't do the hibernation part.
Speaker 2:I know you just got to go to sleep for three months and don't eat and then it all goes away Like what a life, but that's what that's for. But when you're doing that constantly like that's not good for your body, it's not good for your pets, but that is the problem with the kibble and I see that all the time. People say you know they stop eating the kibble and their dog just automatically trimmed. That's really rare to see a dog that is overweight that we can't get the weight off if they're feeding raw Almost just happens naturally this cancer and food.
Speaker 1:And I want to ask it for people, because there's so much controversy over a paleo diet, okay, which would be the equivalent of a raw diet for a dog, right? So, as a person, if you're going to do a or let's just say carnivore diet, that's easier. If you're going to do a or let's just say carnivore diet, that's easier. Carnivore diet. So it's mainly meat, eggs, cheese, um, some avocados, nuts and seeds. That's basically what it is, um, and it does keep your sugar level down, right. That's why people absolutely lose a lot of weight on it. Now, the whole controversy is, you know, meat, red meat and cancer versus a plant-based diet, lots of juicing, which this is so confusing to me, dr Jasey, because juicing has a lot of sugar in it. So I don't get this. What is the diet for people with cancer? It's very hard to figure out. You're like I can figure it out in the dogs, but for people it's, it's, it's strange. What do you think? It's all over the place.
Speaker 2:Well, I think I think the first and most important thing that people need to eliminate is toxicity. Regardless of what they're eating, they need to get the toxicity out because, like red meat, you can buy red meat at the grocery store from some factory farm, whatever, and that is not going to be healthy meat. That's going to be very toxic. If you're buying pasture, raised grass, finished beef, that's going to be much healthier. So those are not. Those aren't even comparing apples to apples. Right there, you're comparing apples to oranges because the meats are different. So if you're going to say red meats bad or meats bad in general, well, which meat are you eating? And I read a book by I think it was by Dr Mark Hyman. He wrote a book on fat. I can't remember what it was called, but it was about how we need fat and fat's better for us. And he kind of got into this that like when they do studies like say, vegetarianism or veganism is healthier than a meat-based diet, well, what meat are they eating? You know, like what? What? Where's that meat coming from? What's the sourcing? That's never talked about when they talk about these different diets. And I think that makes a world of difference. Plus, it's like what were they eating before? You know? Like they never hear about that either.
Speaker 2:Like you know, I hear these people say well, I, you know. Like they never hear about that either. Like you know, I hear these people say I, you know, got cancer and I changed a vegan diet and my cancer went away and I felt so great. Well, if you were eating McDonald's three times a day before, anything's better than that. So you know, then they do this big shift. But is that sustainable? Like, I think it's very hard to stay really healthy on a vegan diet, to balance all your you know, your nutrients and everything. So I mean, I would still contend that toxicity is a big factor in cancer, whether it's toxins in our food, toxic emotions, toxic energy. I think there's all sorts of different toxic effects. But I think in people, the bottom line is you need to learn to listen to your body. You know, maybe for some people, diets that are higher in produce work better for him. I, I'm the opposite.
Speaker 2:I do better on more like a carnivore type diet, I feel better, I feel satiated. I I don't snack as much, you know, I feel much. So what? Instead of just following the next diet program, like what feels best, what feels best in your body? I mean, I think people need to learn to pay attention to that and then maybe you periodically do a fast, you know where you cleanse, or maybe you just eat or just drink juice for you know three days, or something like that.
Speaker 2:But I still go back to nature, though, like nature, put these fruits and veggies together with the fiber, with all the stuff. I still feel like, if you're gonna, you know, take an orange, that there seems like there's got to be health benefits of eating the whole orange as as opposed to just juicing it because, like you said, that's that's where all the sugar is. Now some people swear by it and it helps keep them healthy. Well, like you know and there's so much about biology, I think we don't know that and I, you know, can't can't argue with success but I do think that when you hear these different claims about different diets, it's like we always say about pets there's always more to the picture.
Speaker 1:What else are they doing?
Speaker 2:Because people that say get a cancer diagnosis and they're, they're they're doing a lot of changes in their life. They're changing multiple things. So, yeah, they're doing this diet, but what else are they doing? Are they doing any other treatments? And again, what were they doing before that? Now they've made this big shift and, of course, their body's going to do better.
Speaker 2:So I guess the bottom line is it depends, but people have to. I think we need to remember to learn to tune into our body. And what is our body need? Our dogs, I don't know. I mean for dogs it just seems to be, I think, across the board, they just do better on the you know, their natural diet. And for people, I guess the natural diet is different, though, depending on where you're from ancestrally, because, like indigenous people that live like in the tropics or they're, they might eat mostly fruit and vegetables, whereas you take, like Eskimos I didn't grow anything up there, they're, they're living on whale, you know like they're happy they're, they're basically a carnivore diet. So maybe it depends too on what our heritage is and where we're from.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, it's. It's very confusing, and so I get it. But I tell you I think it's less confusing. In the dog world right now there are some people who are proponents of vegetarian diets for dogs. Okay, I just can't imagine that a dog would be satiated on that diet. That's to me, that's nuts. Hey, I wanted to run something by you. I had someone write in they are a raw feeder, they've been feeding raw for a very long time.
Speaker 1:But they took their dog in for a dental cleaning. I know you're a big fan of dental cleaning, okay, but they took their dog in for a dental cleaning. X-rays, blood work, urine sample, stool sample, overall wellness, as she says. And she said that everything came back perfect. But two days after his dental cleaning his health began to decline. They started noticing he wasn't wanting to move around, he was eating his food much slower, he was tired, lethargic, he just wasn't himself. He stopped greeting them at the door, he started going up a few times. So they took him back to the vet and they did a chest x-ray and they saw inflammation in his lungs. So they sent out a test for fungal pneumonia. But that came back negative. They've had two ultrasounds, physical exams, urine culture, stool samples, everything keeps coming back normal, some elevations in the white blood cell count in his blood work, um.
Speaker 1:But they also put him on prednisone, um, and and she did say when they put him on prednisone that they felt like they were getting um their dog back then in december. So that was in november kind of all that was happening, and then in december they found whipworms, um, and they thought that maybe you know, that was the problem. So they began tapering down his steroids, uh, the prednisone, and then he developed calcinosis, calcinonus cutis on his body, whatever that word is, because you're a doctor, um, anyway. So the vet thought it was leukemia, uh, but they sent it off to a pathologist who said they saw no evidence of cancer, uh, but he has this high white blood count.
Speaker 1:So they were kind of reaching out, you know, for help, and obviously all we can do, guys here at Raw Dog Food and Company, is advise you on the nutritional aspect, and then we're going to, we're going to scoot you on over to drjacek at ahavetcom, but anything stand out to you in regards to that? Now, here let me just say this so we did ask what other medications are right, uh, are. Are you doing a couple of rounds of sentinel heart and worm uh, heart heart, uh, heartworm medicine yeah, not. And terrible reviews on that, uh, and he also had a rabies shot back in september, october, right before the november thing.
Speaker 2:So thoughts yeah, I mean my first, very first thought. You know concurrent vaccines, because I can just see those really mess with them and it's, you know, I think it can sometimes be subtle in that it it's not like, okay, they have the vaccine and they have this immediate allergic reaction or they have a seizure or they have something like that. But I know, I just know these vaccines are getting more and more toxic and just in terms of like, disrupting like the normal immune system, like I've had many, many people tell me like they'll go in for a vaccine, especially the rabies, and they're like and my pet's, never the same, you know, like, like they. They just they don't act. Quite the same behaviors, a little bit different, um, they're, they're never quite as healthy in some way. I would just wonder, so that dog had the vaccine like two months before this procedure. Could that have disrupted its ability to, you know, come through this and maybe metabolize the drugs? And is it just disrupting this dog's like immune system? And one of the reasons I think that too is it did respond to prednisone. So if the immune system is like out of whack or the body's ability to, you know, manage things is out of whack in some way so that or such that, like the body can't manage inflammation anymore. So we see, one of the things we see after vaccines is increased inflammation. So it's like the body can't manage that inflammation. That's why they'll sometimes respond to steroids. But you're not, you're not helping them heal, you're just suppressing symptoms. And the calcinosis cutis, those are calcium deposits in the skin that come up after prednisone use and we see that.
Speaker 2:My opinion, you got to get them off your your. That is really a indication of a high level of impact those steroids are having on the body, adverse impact, and you got to get them off the steroids. And that's we'll put dogs on steroids when they don't know what to do. Steroids and antibiotics I don't know what's going on. Let's try some antibiotics, try some steroids. And this dog probably had a lot of drugs, including antibiotics for the dental, which in the short term might not necessarily be a problem. But yeah, my first thought was you know any, any? Yeah, my first thought was you know any, any other, any concurrent treatments that would disrupt normal, like immune system function? So was the dog getting any apiquil or cytopoint or any any of of those things?
Speaker 2:and, of course, the vaccinations right yeah, look and also look really closely at what was the dog, given the day, you know, the day of the procedure there could have just been a drug that maybe they use routinely, that just didn't agree with the dog or cause some reaction.
Speaker 1:Right, and that's really where you know we directed them. We said, look, because they were looking for a supplement. And I said, well, I, I think the best thing you can do nutritionally is always going to be variety, variety, variety. I do like phytoplankton, I do like a couple of different things in the dog's diet, but I said this looks more like a toxicity. Right, what drugs have been in the dog's body? Right, and when you look at heartworm medication because I did send over Sentinel, right, because it's one of the ones that Dogs Naturally has done a breakdown of, but it says heartworm medications, they do kill heartworms, but don't use the kind of medications that kill other parasites that your dog doesn't have, Right, right, because this is very harmful to your dog. I will say, in the sentinel category, the active ingredients are milbimicin I don't know how you say that, dr Jason, but milbimicin.
Speaker 2:I think that's right. Okay, that's right.
Speaker 1:Good for me, didi and lufneron. Okay, good for me, didi and lufneuron. Okay, lufneuron. So there's these two drugs that are combined, and here's what they say about it. They're ineffective for heartworm, larva, hookworms and and uh, ascarids what is that? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Ascaris, that's another worm. A round worm, that's another round worm.
Speaker 1:So they're ineffective for those. But here are the side effects that they have seen in this product. Okay, and I know that this dog only got two doses, but maybe that was enough to cause him problems. Here are the side effects vomiting, depression and lethargy, diarrhea, diarrhea, puritis Okay, so that's the skin. You know. Itching right Of the skin, is that right? Okay? Anorexia, convulsions, trembling and ataxia. So these are not-.
Speaker 2:You really want to give your dog that stuff, don't you?
Speaker 1:Right. So I understand why they may have given this because they want to get rid of the whip worms, but there there are probably some other things that you could do that you know. But here it is the combination of okay, we just had a rabies vaccine, um, we went in and we had drugs for the teeth cleaning, right, and she did give me that, uh, actually, um, because I asked what meds, um, but butorphanol, um, antimezol, anazine, uh, and ketocet. I don't know these drugs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those are, those are. Those are antiseptic and anesthetic drugs. Butorphanol is like a pain medication and pre-anesthetic pain medication, ketocet that's ketamine and and those. So those are all typical anesthesia drugs. But those should not have a lasting effect. I mean, some dogs have a harder time recovering from anesthesia but if their bodies are otherwise healthy, like maybe it'll take them a little longer, a couple of days, to get their bodies kind of back to normal. But those drugs, you know, usually aren't the problem.
Speaker 2:You know I wonder about, like you know, is there some new pain medication? Like what kind of pain medication? They give antibiotics. You know some dogs just really don't handle antibiotics Well. Usually after dentals they're given. You know they're given antibiotics and you know you're messing up the microbiome.
Speaker 2:But I agree wholeheartedly with what you said. It's, it's likely a combination. This type of thing is just not recognized in conventional medicine. So the dog had the rabies shot, it's getting the Sentinel and these things are considered so routine, like should be no big deal. The vets are going to say no big deal. You know we use this stuff all the time.
Speaker 2:And then you add in these, you know anesthetic drugs and you know biology. That combination of things could have just really, you know, messed something up in this doc. So I would be, I'd be thinking getting that doc off prednisone Absolutely, because I've seen many patients that they're put on prednisone for whatever reason. In the short term they might feel a little bit better, but then they don't fully recover and as we wean them off the pred they actually start to improve, they feel much better because that pred is suppressing the, you know, body's natural immune system. It's hard on the liver, it can be hard in the kidneys, you know it's. It can be really really quite hard on the body. And I had a lot of times see, see pets that feel better just getting them off of the prednisone and then doing like detox for this guy. I mean, just really do maybe some homeopathy to help with the, you know, clearing the vaccine stuff and then like some good liver detox, that sort of thing, helping the liver do its job and cleansing.
Speaker 2:And then the other thing to think about too, as far as what could be entering into this, are the environmental toxins. Now, do they walk where there could be weed killer sprayed or you know, pesticides, insecticides? You know, I hear people all the time say that where they live, I mean obviously not the winter time would be the case, but like they spray for mosquitoes and stuff and that's, you know that's. Those are all toxins coming down on us and and on our pets. So I think that can often play a factor. Water are they using city water which is going to have chlorine and fluoride and all of these other other chemicals in it?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So just a note to to pet parents I understand that that when a dog gets ill and you go to the vet and you're feeding raw and the vet is putting drugs in your dog's body, and then the question is is, is the dog food causing the problem? Um, I I don't know, dr Jasek, if I've seen much in the way of dogs who are totally clean, without any toxicities and eating a raw diet, having issues. I mostly see um 98% of the time when we're consulting and we're saying, you know, because they want to understand about food, should I change the food, should I do this? And I'm like this sounds like there's something else involved. Right, this sounds like there's some other factor.
Speaker 1:And what we don't know is, again, how these drugs are going to interact in your pet's body and there are delayed responses to drugs, there are immediate responses to drugs and certainly a combination of things that may just not be working well in your pet. So all that to say, you know, again, the cleaner your dog can be. I do know that there are tons of holistic remedies for getting rid of whipworms right For worms, for flea and tick protection. And then you know we've talked about the rabies ad nauseum. You know, we have so many bats around here, I mean well, we were walking through this tunnel, okay.
Speaker 1:So we're, there's a big tunnel and we're looking up and they're like all of these, like you know, big mud, dauber type things, and you're like no, those are bat homes and they, they come out at night.
Speaker 1:You know, know, in austin you can go to austin and stand on this bridge and all these bats fly out and it's pretty cool, uh, at a certain time of the year. And I went down the other day to see if I could see the bats coming out at this certain time and I could not. But once I got back to where we are here and we're around a we would call it a pond several ponds, they call them lakes, they're ponds and the bats are just flying like crazy. They're eating all the bugs. Yeah, but do you think that just because it's a bat, it has rabies? Is there any reason why a bat I mean supposedly they're like the carrier of rabies. I don't see a bat coming and biting a dog ever. I do know that people will say and I've heard you say this about Rex that you know, maybe a bat's dead and a dog bites it, but can a dog get rabies just from that? Does that happen? Is that a thing?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't think, you know, I don't think rabies exists at all anymore. But even if you're following the conventional school of thought, a dog would still have to be bitten by a rabid bat to transmit it. Because it's a. It's supposedly a neurologic virus, it gets on the nerves and so that has to be injected beneath the skin. So casual exposure, like even going in a cave or something where there's, you know, hundreds of thousands of bats, you're not going to get it via casual exposure. And a dog won't even get it if they, or a cat, if they caught a bat and killed it or found a dead bat and ate it because their stomach acid is going to eliminate it, it needs to be supposedly injected under the skin.
Speaker 2:I think, as we've talked about at length, that the whole rabies thing is just made up, big scam. But it's a very powerful narrative out there. But for people that still believe it's a thing, want to be careful and want to protect their pet, just remember that there could be a million bats in your area. It doesn't mean that, yeah, like they all have rabies, one of those would actually have to bite your dog or cat in order to transmit the rabies If it. If it had it. I love the bats. I see them around here and I'm like bats eat mosquitoes. Yay, like come on.
Speaker 1:Now come on come on, you know come on to the smogish board come on, eat all the bugs you want well, and and and um, they've skewed dr jc the virus um definition. Right, because it's the, it's the invisible boogeyman, right, the virus is the okay. So now, if you say rabies is a virus and your dog has to be bitten in order to get this rabies, that's confusing to people because they're like, oh no, it's a virus, so all I, the bad, just has to emit, get this rabies. Um, that's confusing to people because they're like, oh no, it's a virus, so all I, the the bad, just has to emit, emit some sort of um invisible thing and my dog's gonna catch it right, they're used to the the narrative in humans that, like, if you have a, a quote-unquote cold, you have respiratory congestion, which now you and I would call that detox.
Speaker 2:Your body is getting rid of something that's in there. So you get that. And then you know, somebody else in your family gets the same symptoms. Well, it's contagious, it's spread. So I think people are used to thinking that way, that and that's been programmed. You know, they want us to believe that, they want us to believe that there's these scary things out there, because when people are afraid, they can be controlled and, and you know, be told to stand six feet apart and don't go out of your house. And they actually do it Because they're so afraid of these things out there that you know don't, don't even exist. So, yeah, and even the I mean the narratives I hear about like scaring people into, you know, getting vaccines like leptospirosis vaccine. That's another one.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, there's, there's lepto in the squirrels around here. Well, lepto is spread in the pee. So it's your dog's drinking squirrel pee. It isn't going to get it, know. And how and how are they? We've talked about this before. Who's going around testing all the squirrels? You know, they just say this stuff and nobody asked really, who did that? Those tests, where did they get? How did they catch them? Like, and they drew blood on them. Like they caught these squirrels and drew blood on them to check them for lepto or they, because that's how you check for it in dogs. Or you know, did they just kill all these squirrels and drew blood on them to check them for lepto or they cause that's how you check for it in dogs. Or you know, did they just kill all these squirrels? And then, like people don't ask those questions but the stuff, it doesn't. Some of these claims just don't make any sense and the vets just throw this stuff out like crazy.
Speaker 2:I'm so disgusted with the veterinary profession, and more and more so every day because they just throw stuff out, just to, you know, I don't know, sell products doesn't even have to make, doesn't even have to make any sense. They just have these ways of justifying what they recommend and in their head and people want to believe their vet because that's supposed to be the doctor, supposed to be the one they're trusting to take care of their pet. And I hear some of the stuff and it's like you know like this poor dog on prednisone. They don't know what's going on with it.
Speaker 1:Let's just put it on prednisone, see, you know, see if it helps right, right, well, listen, you guys can certainly work with dr jacek and she will make sense.
Speaker 1:They will make sense, they will help yes, yes and uh, give you a different perspective. Look, we're not the pet police, we say it all the time. We're just going to give you the information, because I think the more information we have, the better we can make decisions right. If you don't know, if you don't know that a bat has to bite you, uh, and then maybe, maybe, maybe it has rabies, uh, then you're afraid every time a bat flies around and maybe you're scurrying the dogs in the house. Oh no, don't let the bat pee on me, might have leptospirosis how much you want.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you want to get sick be afraid, right, right, right, yeah, fear man. Fear is is so, so detrimental to us. It brings your energy down, it's heavy and people, I think, are more afraid of losing their pets than anything, right? So that is why that they're easily moved, right, because they love their pets so much. Everybody loves their pets, even the fat ones.
Speaker 1:the fat ones, and I just want to say I, I could, I, we could help you have more time with your pet yeah we would have so much more time with your pet if you just we could just get that weight down and you know your pet would be be happier, You'd have them longer.
Speaker 2:but I can't, and isn't that worth a few extra pennies a month? You know people say well, I can't afford that.
Speaker 1:Like what's having extra years with your pet worth to you Right, Well, and then you know, because folks love their pets so much, they're going to go into the vet and spend tens of thousands of dollars on certain procedures. Right, and I hear it all the time and I'm just like, wow, wow, it's gotten so expensive. I just I feel for people that don't have the money and what do they do? They just have to. I don't know. I don't know. I've heard in the cities around here.
Speaker 2:it's like 800 bucks just to walk in the door of an ER and take your pet in. It's like 800 to a thousand dollars just to walk in the door, like literally. I mean, and not everybody can afford that. Like, what do the people do? They can't afford that. They either hope their pet gets better or, you know, they have to put them down.
Speaker 2:It's gotten astronomically expensive. It's really quite sad because that's just greed. The stuff I mean. Yes, everybody's costs are going up, but it goes up multiples every year in the veterinary profession and products, equipment, all that that's not going up that fast. It's corporate greed. It's because so many of these big clinics are now corporately driven and I bet they're looking at like human prices too. Like, oh well, this is what you know, a hospital is going to build the insurance company, so we should, we need to get veterinary prices up there, but most people still pay cash. You know some have insurance but a lot of people still pay cash. So it's it's really pricing people out of veterinary care and it's really sad. It's very sad for the pets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why you need to feed raw, get them on the raw diet. If you have friends that their dog looks way overweight, right there there, you know that they're on many, many medications and things you know are having side effects and they can't figure it out, tell them to listen to the podcast one and then get over to a H a vetcom. They're going to help you nutritionally and in areas that we cannot help you, and that's going to be with the medical side, okay, but certainly get the diet right, get the water right, um, and make sure the treats are good too, right. Those are the three main things that you got to do today and we can help you right here, rawdogfoodandcompanycom. Just get over there. Brian's going to help you.
Speaker 1:Sign up for a 20-minute consult. You can go in the chat Now. Listen. Let me say something about the chat. People are like hello, hello. I'm like, okay, sometimes we're not 24-7. I'm like, okay, sometimes we're not 24 seven. I'm just going to say, you know, nobody's probably in the chat at midnight, unless I want to add the AI component, which I could do, that I could add AI in there, but just give us a second. You know, leave your question. You can text us, you can email us, you can go in the chat. We will get back with you. That's one thing you're not going to hear. Oh, they never got back with me. We will.
Speaker 2:We may just not get back with you right then at midnight okay, and if you, and if you send the same message like 20 times, you don't get back to him any faster well, but I mean people will call and call and call.
Speaker 1:Oh, they'll do all three, like the call and text, and leave a message we get them all we get. I think I need to put a recording out there that says do not stress, I promise I hear you, we hear you and we're going to get back with you. You are being.
Speaker 2:You are being heard.
Speaker 1:We just, you are heard, we have we have.
Speaker 2:We have a list. Yeah, we get the. We get the same thing. They haven't gotten back to me in five minutes Like right. And then, the more annoying you are, you go to the bottom of the list and you, but you already asked your question today. See, we do that, like you know, because of people. We tell people like, if you've got several questions, like put it all in one email so we can kind of handle it all at once. Otherwise, you asked your one question. You go to the back of the line. You know Rachel, our kind of main admin. She used to be a preschool teacher. She's perfect for people like nope, you already had your turn, you're now going to the back of the line. So, yeah, we're busy, we're all helping multiple people, we're not just sitting around waiting for one particular person to call Lots of people, lots of people, and we love helping you.
Speaker 1:So get over to rawdogfoodandcompanycom, where your pet's health is our business. And what, dr Jasek, for friends, don't let friends feed, kibble y'all. That's right. We'll see you next week, everybody. Bye-bye, bye.
