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The Raw Dog Food Truth
Pets with allergies, skin issues gut issues and behavior issues can live better lives eating a species appropriate diet not hard kibble or cooked foods. Your Pet's Health Is Our Business "Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble"
The Raw Dog Food Truth
Overcoming Winter Hurdles and Pet Anxiety With Dr. Judy Jasek
Fear can subtly dictate how we care for our pets, affecting their health and behavior. This episode explores the emotional connection between humans and their pets, revealing the impact of anxiety on pet wellness while offering practical advice for fostering a nurturing environment.
• Discusses delivery challenges and logistical difficulties during cold weather
• Explores how fear among pet owners can cause stress in pets
• Highlights the emotional sensitivity of animals to human energy
• Encourages a shift towards understanding nutrition and raw feeding
• Stresses the importance of calmness and confidence in pet ownership
• Provides resources for managing fear and promoting well-being
• Offers training insights that emphasize the role of pet owners as leaders
• Invites listeners to engage more deeply with their pets' health and diets
Raw Dog Food and Company where Your Pet's Health is Our Business and Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble
oh snap. Well, hello raw feeders. I'm didi mercer moffitt, ceo of raw dog food and company where your pet's health is our business and we're friends. Like my friend, dr judy jacek, she doesn't let friends feed kibble either. Good morning, dr jacek. How are you in tennessee?
Speaker 2:good morning dude. Good you're in tennessee, a little chilly. January is a cold month here, but you know it's been. It'll get down to the teens at night and, um, like most most days, it gets in the 30s and 40s. Now, later this week we're supposed to have highs in the 20s. That's, that's really cold. It's really cold here when it doesn't get above freezing, like at any point during the day, most days like today.
Speaker 2:it was like 15 this morning, but it'll be 40 and it's sunny, so that's not bad. We had our first snow. I think it's like just our annual snow. Last winter we just had kind of one main snow, and I think this might be our snow. We had like about six inches, and, like everybody here is losing their ever-loving minds, are you ready for the storm? Are you ready to hunker down? And I'm like we're from Colorado, when they start measuring the snow in feet, then we'll get concerned.
Speaker 2:Six inches, are you kidding me? But they don't have any. They have no plows or anything there, because people just let it melt, so everybody just stays home. I mean, the streets are empty, they've shut down the schools, but you know it makes sense here. I mean, why invest in all the plows to plow the snow once when a couple days later the temperature is going to go up and and it's and it's going to melt? It did, though I'd ordered food from you and it took a week, took a full week for it to get here, because you know what I didn't hear from you.
Speaker 1:Thank you because you realized, yes yeah, yeah, I didn't call you.
Speaker 2:I thought I should. I thought about just messing with you like didi my food's late. Do you think it'll be safe?
Speaker 2:because when I got it, I'm hearing from all week yeah, well, because of the storms and then locally Well, and I totally I understand, you know, like it, and I was getting the notice and it said it was going to supposed to show up on the regular. It was like one day late and then it was going to show up late and then I got noticed, but that was Friday and then I got noticed it wasn't going to show up till.
Speaker 2:Monday but you know, we're rural. Our UPS drivers they have to drive a lot of miles. It's not like you know. They're in a city where they could probably drive maybe 20 miles and do a whole bunch of deliveries. They probably drive 200 miles here. I mean they drive, they have big territories, wow, and they're not used to driving in the snow. So I mean I don't, I don't blame them at all, I'm like it's cold, I'll see If it's thawed, I'll just call DeeDee Is it frozen Is this food going to kill my dog?
Speaker 2:You know, most of it was actually still frozen, but there was a couple of chubs that were thawed, were soft, but they were cold, so nothing was warm. Right, I even been warm. Warm I probably still would have just fed it right away because I think it'd be fine, and you know what you know what. Even one of the packages was nicked a little bit. There was like a little tear in it.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, you let all the bacteria fly in and it was soft and I knew like all these bacteria were getting in there. But you know what I I'm going to feed it anyway and you know what it survived. But yeah, it was actually most of it was still pretty, pretty, pretty frozen solid. So yeah, I thought about it.
Speaker 2:Should I text DeeDee and say but then I was like well, how do I make sure she knows I'm just joking, she might think I'm serious because she gets that all the time. So I'm just joking, she might think I'm serious because she gets that all the time.
Speaker 1:I'll just tell her about it when we talk. It's really funny. You know, we forget in the world that how our food arrives at the grocery store, how our food actually gets to us, when it's delivered right, there are human beings that are actually having to do it. And if you can't get out, a UPS truck has a hard time getting in. If the city has stopped because there is a massive ice storm, the staging so-called staging stations of UPS are also at a standstill, right. So this is very confusing to people because they get really detached in our instantaneous world, and even with our home delivery, right. So here we are in Colorado home delivery. We have people up in the mountains where I live who cannot get out of their driveway and they don't understand why.
Speaker 2:A roadie driver home delivery person can't make it.
Speaker 1:They're little bitty front wheel drive cars. Right, right, right, because the service that that many people use whether that's going to be prime and and our home delivery service is owned by UPS. Okay, but it is a crowdsource. That means that someone from california who doesn't own any snow tires, doesn't even understand how to drive in the snow, can be driving through colorado and decide that they want to make a little extra money by being a delivery person. That's how crowdsourcing works. And they pick it up and they go up to the mountains and they're like oh, oh, no, I'm not doing this. You know that's I'm not gonna, and they'll just leave it. You know, at the top of the driveway, and then a customer says I have to walk up my driveway to get that. I'm like I know, I know.
Speaker 2:It's kind of how it works, like you live in the mountains like, yeah, it's part of the part, of the part of the deal and you know, you know, honestly, people here, I mean, I thought this when I was in Colorado If you're afraid to drive in the snow, then please stay home, because I'm not afraid to drive in the snow and I know what my vehicle can do in the snow and I don't want these scared people out. You know driving, because they're the ones that you know can cause the accidents because they, because they panic, so they should stay home.
Speaker 1:They should. I'm in Arizona at the moment. I'm in the Scottsdale area. We have a lot of business out here in the Scottsdale area, so so we are out here at the moment. But they have these driverless cars. They're called Waymos. Driverless cars, they're called waymos and um, our kids were in town this weekend and we took a waymo. You can get four people in the waymo. There is no driver in the driver's seat. Okay, there's a steering wheel, no driver sitting in it, and you haven't. It was a little freaky, but I have to tell you that the it's. It's kind of a great little concept, but what happens is you call for it on the app, just like you would an Uber, and there's no handles until you punch in the button to verify that basically, you are the person standing at that Waymo. Then the handles will come out.
Speaker 2:Oh to get in, to get in, oh wow.
Speaker 1:And then it will stop at your destination and let you out and you know it looks weirder than it feels once you get in it. And I guess there is a positive side to it as well, as many people have talked about that. Let's say, for a single woman in an Uber or even a taxi of any kind, you don't know that person Right driverless electric car that has many, many scanners that are going around the car so it can tell not to hit something and how to merge into traffic. We see them. They're around here all the time. They're in three major cities.
Speaker 1:I don't know that they're in denver yet, but, um, we have the highway. Like going fast, they cannot go on the highway. They are just city cars. So if you like the 101 and the 202, go around this area. You will never see a Waymo there. So if you're going to travel, as our daughter-in-law did when she was here her grandmother's in an assisted living and she went to see her, which was about an hour away she actually took an Uber to get there and they because it's somebody driving they haven't trained the Waymos yet to drive on the highway. I suspect that's coming.
Speaker 1:Are they electric, they are electric, so somehow, you know. Our questions were how do they know to go home to be charged? I was wondering, do they like that battery gets to a certain level and then they have to find the nearest charging station or whatever I would imagine there's, there are humans that are monitoring them, you know, and um calling them back home, waymo phone home, you know, and uh, but, but it's so bizarre. But we did that, it was quite bizarre and I said that, you know and but, but it's bizarre.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we did that. It was quite bizarre and I said that you know, one day it would be awesome if they could program those to do the deliveries that we need, right, so they could drive up to our warehouse we would load the boxes in, then they would drive to their destination. Maybe we load them in a certain way that they know where their destinations are. The only catch would be that the folks would have to be home and they would have to retrieve the boxes out because they can't, they can't unload it.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, they got robots until we get the robots we need a waymo waymo with a robot, and then they can unload it and take it up to the door and put it down.
Speaker 1:Do you know what? We had one time this was years ago, but when we had home delivery- we still have home delivery.
Speaker 2:But we had home delivery and a driver came and there were two people in the car. Typically, you can only have one. That's the law of roading. However, there were two people in the car typically you can only have one with.
Speaker 3:Uh, that's the law of roadie.
Speaker 1:However, there were two kind of and we got a call from one of our customers and the SWAT team was surrounding their house and arrested was out there promoting vaccines, you know for babies who delivered their food and we were like well did you get your food and uh, but they did release the other person to go on and the other people
Speaker 3:did end up getting their food too but it was now and probably it was quite a spectacle for one of our customers as the yeah, wow surrounding their, their dog food, so no arresting someone. I mean, is that? Yeah, no doubt it was quite interesting um, probably pretty easy.
Speaker 2:You know what you and I were talking about. Something I want to talk about a little bit uh fear. Yeah, and how that relates to our pets and like and just how fear is in the world right.
Speaker 3:That would be a scary experience of having the SWAT team surround your home but they were they were, they thought it was quite uh humorous and they took it in good spirit, but you and I were talking about you know, is it that some of these dogs that appear to be very that that well is acceptable, you know?
Speaker 2:so what they have non-toxic dogs like they're trying to have is to say it's major problems and you and I were talking about how fear resonates in humans, not. And how is it that a dog might get sick?
Speaker 1:um, don't make sense human being careful or how even they react that's the way. So one of the things I was talking about is that you and I both have german shepherds large dogs tend to bring fear in other people, no matter what right, because it's just, we've been seeing that and dog attacks.
Speaker 2:They have to be able to present the right evidence that you know we we're able to walk laws off leash due to the fact that she is very voice command trained right. That means and she doesn't have the personality to attack even a five-pack dog. So, like you had, chihuahuas you were talking about a guy who would let his german chihuahua just run all over the place and you had chihuahuas and that was very frightening for you, wasn't it? Subscription totally, but they are really putting out there, and is that what we see?
Speaker 3:fear, so what does?
Speaker 2:fear do you know we were people that there was a lady way?
Speaker 1:across away from us and she was like please keep your dog.
Speaker 2:I don't think she said please, she just said keep your dog away from my dog you know to which I'm like. Well, lozzy is not even doesn't even care right, doesn't care about the little dogs, doesn't care about that. I get how that can cause fear, but it's like 30 bucks a month or something that I see in dogs the aggressiveness um or their reaction. So if you're afraid, you're gonna do one or two things fight or flight.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's one or two information, that's, that's what you're gonna do, right? And but most dogs, if they become afraid to then be supported, that causes them to be aggressive. So you know with humans, right? So Dr Andy talked about this. She could tell when a dog is going to be snappy or want to bite her.
Speaker 1:You probably can too, simply by the energy of the pet parents and how that transfers.
Speaker 2:Do you believe?
Speaker 1:that that energy of fear transfers negatively into our pets Because they can't really talk to us right? They can't say, hey, you guys fighting in the house or you being stressed out about money mom, or this or that is causing me great distress.
Speaker 3:And we know that that stress causes a disease in the body.
Speaker 1:Do you think fear plays a part in this? Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Fear is a very powerful emotion and I think it can make people sick. And pets definitely pick up on our energy. You know, they're very I mean, just honest and open beings. I think they absorb the energy around them, you know, and and it I think it has, you know, maybe maybe some more effect on them, because I think that in some ways they're, like, more more susceptible to it. They just kind of take it in. And I I definitely think so, I mean because I've seen that too.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm just doing telemedicine now, but when I would work in person, people that were very nervous, very agitated, you know, just in general, would have nervous, easily agitated dogs and unfortunately, you know, dogs, I mean, they can't communicate. You and I can say, hey, I'm afraid, I'm really nervous. This is really making me anxious. Dogs can't say that. They have to communicate in different ways and if they're afraid and like they're in the vet's office and or even at the chiropractor, like with Dr Andy, they don't understand what's going on. Mom or dad are nervous about this and they're like do I got something to be afraid of here? And then all of a sudden some strange person starts doing something unfamiliar to them and they're like I don't want to do that. How do they say I don't want you to do that? They snap. I mean they don't, they can't verbalize that. So they'll either try to get away or if they don't feel like they can get away, then then they'll snap. But it's, it's definitely true and I also see that in, like patients.
Speaker 2:I work with the people that are very, very fearful and I understand it's hard if you get a diagnosis like a cancer diagnosis for your pet.
Speaker 2:But you know there's a point where you have to kind of get get past the fear and take positive action. And the people that have that positive action attitude like, okay, this is, you know, my dog has this diagnosis. It sucks, I want my dog to have the best quality of life possible for whatever time it's here. I'm going to be grateful for whatever time I have with my dog and I want it to feel as good as possible during that time, versus the person that is up all night researching pets on like 100 different supplements, overloading the body and they're just always fussing over the pet. The pets just want to lead like their normal life and go do the things that they want to do, and the pets that get more like fussed over, like that, tend to not live as long. Okay, they, they definitely pick up on that human energy because it's not a fun energy to live in and they can't. They can't get away from it except to die yeah, you know, in in you, think about this.
Speaker 1:In training, training dogs, they must have a leader that is dependable. Now, who wants to be led by somebody who is anxious and fearful? Would that make a good leader? No, why do we follow people? Why do we trust people? Because they bring a sense of confidence and calm to our life. In order, right, that's what they do. When we all look at, who do we gravitate towards? Why do we listen to certain podcasts? Why do we go to certain doctors? Why do we do certain things? It's always so that we feel better.
Speaker 1:So think about this Does your dog really want to follow you if you are in this state of confusion, anxiety and fear? Right, and I again, I always come back to this I think it's quite cruel that we punish them for acting out in a situation of which we have put them in. Right, and that goes for food. Right Now, we say that about food too. If you have a dog, that is just, you know, people will say this dog, granted, there are many breeds and most breeds need lots of exercise, right, who doesn't? You know, even if you're in the hospital, in the most egregious of surgeries, they're gonna demand that you get up and then you walk and then you gotta move immediately, right that day after surgery. They want you up and moving.
Speaker 1:Okay, but I find that if you have a dog that is just like got the zoomies all the time or maybe just seems like they're just like I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it. Think about that food that you're feeding. And if they're on a sugar high constantly, right, and then they get in trouble for being on that sugar high, whose fault is that? Right, we can't do that. I was at the coffee shop this morning and this dog this is so funny, he's sitting in this spot and I I look to our friends that we meet at the coffee shop and I said he was licking his lips. I said I bet you anything, this dog comes in here and gets a puppuccino every day.
Speaker 3:You just salivating, this dog comes in here and gets a puppuccino every day. You're salivating.
Speaker 1:It did it did. They handed him a puppuccino and he was fat. You know, he was fat. I so wish I could hand out a card and say, hey, if your dog's fat, let me I can help. But I didn't.
Speaker 1:But I'm just saying that that that that fear plays such a huge role in everything that we do. And certainly getting a cancer diagnosis, whether that be for a human or a pet, is extremely, extremely upsetting, causes a lot of different emotions, emotions that are are not even viable, are not? They're just there's no like anxiety. Okay, anxiety, okay, we talk about anxiety. You've had anxiety, I have anxiety.
Speaker 1:You know, I was talking with Will Hahn, who does Psyche K today, and he was saying anxiety plays no good purpose in our lives. Right, it's a fear of the unknown is what it is? A fear of not knowing. How in the world do we know the future? We don't know the future, right, but anxiety plays no good role. And I just think that when we look at it on a spiritual realm, a lot of people were really talking about what COVID was all about, right, right, how do we induce fear to reduce power? Right, if, if our power is usurped by fear, then and you. You don't want people to be able to have power to really bring about good in the world. What do you do? You create enormous amounts of fear and and we even see people die of that.
Speaker 2:Dr Jason, die out of what they believe, right, yeah, and you're not thinking and people can't think logically, like we've talked about this before quite a few times Like, if you're feeling fearful, like, say, you got a diagnosis for your pet and you're feeling fearful, what is you know the average veterinary oncologist? They're like, say you got a diagnosis for your pet, you're feeling fearful, what is you know the average veterinary oncologist? They're like you got to start chemo tomorrow. You got to do so. You're in the state of fear you can't think clearly. So you're making decisions from a point of fear and you never want to make decisions, important decisions. I mean you can decide what you're gonna have for dinner or something, but you know important decisions from fear or anxiety. Of course, maybe that's not a good time to decide what you're going to eat for dinner.
Speaker 3:You're probably going to eat the comfort foods, the junk food anyway.
Speaker 2:Maybe you better calm down and then, when you want to eat, when you're craving salad again. But yeah, I mean, it's a very powerful emotion and it's about control, because then they can control people. What are they doing right now with the bird flu? They're making people afraid of not just other people and contagion. They're making people afraid of their food. I'm, I'm, I'm afraid they're going to start making people afraid of their pets. And oh my gosh, you know, if my pet shows symptoms of bird flu, which could be anything I mean, if you read the symptom list, could be any symptom whatsoever the people are going to be worried about that. Oh, am I going to get this, you know, from my pets? And people are going to be told, oh, you need to give up your pets if they have these, you know, have these symptoms. So, yeah, fear is really powerful.
Speaker 2:You know, you mentioned anxiety. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and I'll be like, just anxious, like, why am I anxious, like? And eventually my mind will start working, I'll start thinking about things. I'm like, I'm not, I don't really have anything to be anxious about. And then I ask myself the question is this mine? Is this my anxiety, or is this coming from someplace else?
Speaker 2:Because one thing I've learned is we can carry anxiety from our parents, and this goes back to our pets, feeding into our pets. The same thing can happen in people. Where were our parents at when we were born? I mean not physically, but where were they at emotionally, like, like, were they happy about having a baby, or was that stressful for them? Were they worried about money? You know life, you know life happens and you know if there was that anxiety even when we're in the uterus, you can carry those emotions forward from from our parents. I mean, I think this is pretty well documented in people by like. Sometimes we're like we just have these patterns and these behaviors and these emotional responses and triggers and we're just not really sure where it's coming from. Well, it's stuff that you know could have happened during our upbringing. So if that can happen to us, I mean, why wouldn't it happen to our pets? I mean, they're a different species but there's still.
Speaker 1:They have an energetic part of them, just like we do, I think more so that because, when you like with a protection dog, they can sense ill intent, right, they are trained that way to sense there's something off the behaviors, off the movements, off that you know. They're very aware. They are trained that way. So why is it that you would train a protection dog, or that a protection dog would naturally sense that, and you don't think that the energy of fear or anxiety in the home would affect that same thing with, um, you know, in vitro or that, not in vitro, but uh, that that that's not called in vitro or not in vitro, but that's not called in vitro. That's a dish, right, that's in a petri dish in vitro, well, there's in utero.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, in utero, in utero, in the uterus, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. So in utero, when the baby's there, why do we play Mozart music? Why do we talk to a baby? Why does a father talk to a baby? Because you can. You can feel that energy and if they can hear and sense that well, don't you think that they could pick up any anxiety that's going on the home During that time? You can't like, straddle the line, you can't ride. You know what is it saying. You can't ride two horses with one ass. I think's what it says. You know that's the same right heard that heard that?
Speaker 2:yeah, I think, and I think we're trained as humans through our culture to disregard our instincts, our natural instincts. You know dogs, those instincts remain. That's why I think they do pick up on more, because they don't have their mind telling them, like to ignore that, or being taught this is what you know. We're kind of taught what do you believe? What do you think? This is what you're supposed to think about this. This is what you know, you're supposed to believe. Dogs just follow their instincts. That's why some dogs don't eat kibble, because they're like this is crap and I don't want to eat it.
Speaker 1:And then people were like give me a, give me a food stimulant, so he'll eat the crap. That is so that that boggles the one's mind.
Speaker 2:It really does not if you're a pharmaceutical company wanting to make a bunch of money selling selling drugs. You know, dog missed a meal. Oh well, just sell them this drug. You know, maybe their body's saying I need to fast right now. I need to. It's best if I don't eat. If I eat I might throw up all over your rug, so it's probably better that I don't eat.
Speaker 1:It's quite frightening to me really, but I'm hopeful that this new administration coming in will begin to look at the food. You know we have canadian friends. Their food is so much cleaner than ours. You know their regulations are not like they're they. They don't allow certain things in their food, just like over in columbia, and different, different Pretty much.
Speaker 2:every country is much cleaner than ours. Our government seems to just want to be poisoning us because they just put all kinds of crap in the food and no regulations poison us with glyphosate or you know GMO stuff or you know they had talked about. I was listening to a podcast with Thomas Thomas Massey, congressman from from Kentucky. He's been very active in the food front and food regulation. He works with Joel Soliton and he's been trying to bring legislature to make it easier for people to get clean food and buy from local farmers and and things like that and be able to get things like, like, like raw milk and all that. But the laws are ridiculous. Like he said, there's there's no law against raw milk, it's just the agencies like the.
Speaker 2:FDA decided that to regulate it. But like he said he's like I'm in Congress Congress never passed a law that said you can't have raw milk. It's just the FDA decided to regulate it. So the whole regulatory setup in our country is just messed up though. Freely poison us. You know, like he said, it's easier to get Oxycontin than it is raw milk. You know, heaven forbid you consume this natural product. But there's laws, and I think a lot of the laws in our country are against the little guy. They don't want the small food companies or the small farmer to be successful. They want to favor the, you know, the big corporations.
Speaker 1:And remember that those corporations are successful because they have created a story to make them successful. And I said created because there is ample proof that kibble is toxic for your pet, but look at how large they are mars, 12 billion. Come on, guys. Candy and kibble and cakes, candy kibble and cakes.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's all the same stuff.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right, right, but you have to create the story. But back to fear is the same thing if you create the story. But back to fear is the same thing If you create a story of fear. Right, and I do believe this, dr Jacek, and I have seen it that we create so many things in our mind and then they come to pass, not exactly as like I'm afraid of a big green monster and therefore a big green monster comes to get you, but I do believe that. Well, it is true, our beliefs create our reality. There's no doubt about it, and you will see that which you believe. So if you believe that COVID was going to kill you, it probably did out of fear and the actions that people took that weren't in their best interest, right. But then I saw another set of people that were like it is simply a cold, and a cold to me means detox. Therefore, I fear not, right, and they're my body doing my body doing what it.
Speaker 2:you know what it is supposed to be doing. It's doing it's. It's healing. It's not disease.
Speaker 1:It's actually doing its job and it's part of the healing process could create a program for pet parents around the journey of our pets. The fear, I guess the question would be this what does the fear do for you? Does it make you feel that you're in control? Does it make you feel that you'll make better decisions? Does it make you feel that you might not make the decision that might bring you pain in the future?
Speaker 2:Right, what does that? That's a really good question, because, as easy as it is for people to get afraid, you think there'd be some benefit of it.
Speaker 2:Well, the benefit is, if there's a grizzly bear running towards you, you should be afraid and you should be thinking about what's the best course of action right now, because it's truly life or death. But I think a lot of the fears that we feel fear can also stand for false evidence appearing real. You know, and I think we're fed a lot of information so we have to be careful. Where do we get our information? Because we're just told things that make us afraid and you have to really sort through the information to know is there a reason to really? Is there really evidence? You know, is there a reason to to really? Is there really evidence? You know the false evidence thing. Is there really true evidence to be afraid?
Speaker 2:We've said so many times there's no evidence whatsoever that viruses exist. I mean, that's been proven. Christine Massey is has done the, the FOIAs and and Jamie Andrews, you know, has done all this testing. There's no evidence that any virus has ever existed, ever. Yet look at how much fear is around things like rabies and how much was around COVID. So we're taught to be afraid and maybe part of it, I think, for humans is humans like to be, you know, in the cool kids club. So if that's the popular narrative they don't want to be the outsider, you know. They want to stay in the clan. They don't want to be the outsider says you guys are all crazy, you don't need to be afraid of that, because then they're afraid of being outcast. Not me, I've been outcast.
Speaker 2:I felt like an outcast my whole life because of not believing what the mainstream, what the mainstream says.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I get it that it takes a lot of practice, right, it takes a lot of practice, lot of practice, right, it takes a lot of practice. But you know, like the, the sweet pet parents who lose a dog right, They'll lose a dog to cancer and they'll be afraid to get another dog because they love that dog so much and they're like I just can't go through that again. I'm afraid of that pain. But you know what I mean. Think about this If you didn't love an animal that much, you wouldn't have had that much pain, right, I get it. So there's a correlation there. And to decide, I don't want that kind of love anymore, right? Or I'm not going to allow that much love that our pets bring us because I'm afraid of that pain again, I think you 'd really miss out on some major joy, some major things, and I do think that a certain level of pain, okay. So let me separate this out. I don't think you have to have fear in order to learn from pain, right, Because pain is just a part of love. Right, when we love our pets, there's going to be pain, because they are going to die before we do.
Speaker 1:Most of the time, they just don't live long enough. They're not human. And here's the thing part of that pain comes from thinking that they should be here our entire lives. Well, they're not. They're not designed that way. I wish they were. There's nothing that is ever going to change that in the natural way of it. Maybe they're going to create someday you know, I don't know a robot dog, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Someday, you know, I don't know a robot dog, I don't know. But I have no illusions that Lazi will be here. You know, 20 more years, right? She's six years old. She may not be here 14 more years, you know, I fully expect her to be here at least 10 more years, right. But I don't have any illusions about that. And if I do, we sort of get off on that and say, gosh, why can't they? I hear that a lot. I'm sure you do too. I'm just not ready for them to go. They think that they should live with them their entire lives. It's just a belief that we have that that's always going to cause us pain. But I don't fear getting another dog after that. You know, because of that pain I'm willing to.
Speaker 2:I'm willing to have that pain, to have that love and that joy. I guess is what I'm saying Because you have a lot of years where you can really enjoy the dog and be grateful and you know when pets die of an illness like cancer. You know a lot of the clients I work with. You know they come back and they'll like, send us an email and they'll say you know, I'm so sad that I lost my pet, but I'm very grateful because I learned so much from you guys and now I know how to keep my next pet healthier. I didn't know there's just a lot I didn't know. You keep my next pet healthier. I didn't know. There's just a lot I didn't know. You know, and they admit that and we can only do what we know and there's a lot of, you know, inappropriate information out there, coming from even the vets. So people learn and they move on and they can be like next dog. I'm going to make sure you know their life is much healthier. I'm going to do everything I can so that you know this particular thing doesn't, doesn't happen. I think.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people to you know, I think you know our pets give us a lot of love, which is great and it feels good. But I think a lot of people are because of, you know, traumas in their life, maybe emotional traumas. They're so dependent on their pets, like they get a pet to help themselves heal and I think that's an unfair burden to put on your pet, because we need to heal ourselves, like if we have past traumas, whatever. We all have our stuff right. It's constantly a work in progress figuring out this human condition, but I think it's unfair to rely on your pet to help heal that.
Speaker 2:And because I've known people that have just completely. I mean, I know that it's sad when you lose a pet, I've lost them. But people that like end up in the hospital because they're so, they just completely fall apart because they're so dependent and you know, I think people just need to take responsibility for their stuff and enjoy the companionship and the partnership. It's just like you have a spouse. Your spouse can't make you happy, like you have to make yourself happy. You can be in a partnership that that enhances your life, but you can't be dependent on anybody else for your happiness, just like you can't depend on your pet. And I think it's a lot energetically to put on your pet, and I think the best thing you can do for your pet is, if you're feeling anxious or fearful or you've got things going on, you know, work on yourself and then enjoy the time you're spending with your, with your pet, but just don't be so so dependent on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I look at that too, like I look, you know, at a parent-child relationship. Again, a child, no matter what age you are, you want your parents to be the leader. You constantly I don't care if you're 60, 70 years old, right, and you have 90-year-old parents or whatever I get it that they are declining, but you still want that personality to say I got this, you don't worry about me, even though you know you are going to worry about your parents. I mean, you're going to help them.
Speaker 1:But do you understand what I'm saying? You just, we crave that, that that person that we look up to will always have that confidence that they have the ability to do what's right for them. And it's very difficult when they don't and when it's very draining on humans, right? Well, think about, I wonder, if it's the same way with pets. I mean, like when they have, you know, owners that they just can't get themselves together and don't take that leadership role, don't take that pack leader role. If that drains, our pets are just like ah, am I the leader? Are you the leader? What am I doing here? You know who's?
Speaker 2:leading. Right, you got to have, you got to have sound pack dynamics and they have to know you're the leader. And then if they know you're the leader, then they're more relaxed. It's like, okay, mom's got it, dad's got it, I don't have to worry about this. And they look like I noticed that in Rex, like if there's because Rex is 11 months old but he's still, he's a big puppy, really, still very much puppyish.
Speaker 2:But you know there's a noise or something, he'll he might bark. Then he looks at me like what do we need to do here? You know he's looking for my reaction to the noise and if I'm like you know, and sometimes I'll go check it out, nope, ok, you're good, you know it's all good. You know, and sometimes I'll go check it out, nope, we're okay, you're good, you know it's all good. You know it was just some noise outside or you know something or other, and like, so he doesn't bark. Like if the UPS truck drives up, I mean he's just at the tail, wagging his window oh, food, that's a food delivery day to get any treats. You know, like we just don't react to those things, so he's learned not to react if it's a even the doorbell, like. I mean, people come to our door very often because we're out, kind of in the middle of nowhere, but a strange noise, something he's like not used to hearing, or if he's sleeping and something startles him, you know. But he always looks like what do we got to do here? You know he'll always look for the reaction. So your reaction is really important.
Speaker 2:And if you react strongly or with anxiety, um, I think, sometimes like storms and stuff, you know, and he couldn't care less about thunder, a lot of dogs are really afraid. So, um, do you react? If there's thunder out of you, jump in. You know. You know your dogs pick up on those, on those clues and and are going to follow you know your, your reaction. So if you end up acting anxious or concerned but then that could work to your advantage too, because if something does happen that's not right and you, you are concerned then your dog is going to learn okay, this is something you know to be more. It's just like with lozzie, you know, being protection trained. She knows she's, she's been trained and I think dogs have those natural instincts being the protection. Training just brings that out more. So they know okay, okay, this is something I need to, you know, look out for or be concerned about, or maybe just watch a little more closely, because this isn't normal. You know, human behavior, typical human behavior.
Speaker 2:I think that's why it's important to get your dogs out and about, so that they just learn what's normal Like, what's what's normal behavior. You meet another person, you stand and talk. They lay down Rex, they're just going to stand here and talk, aren't they? This is so boring, you know, can't we go?
Speaker 3:play ball but he will.
Speaker 2:He's like that's what humans do. But if somebody approached me in a way he's not used to, I think that would you know. He's not protection trained, but I think that would you know.
Speaker 1:He's not protection trained, but I think that would still put him on guard because it's not something he's used to seeing I was watching a video of, uh, this guy who he's over in canada, I believe, and he has the most amazing malinois, right, and malinois are super high, strong, right. They're just like. He doesn't really even advocate for for people to have a Malinois, uh, unless they're going to do massive training, because these dogs need so much and they can get so wound up so fast that you can't reel them in One of the. The trainings that this dog does is is they have to? He plots them, or they they're laying down?
Speaker 1:she lays down on the jeep outside and watches him for two hours without moving, oh my gosh that's a long time, a long time, but she's been trained to, as he would say, calm herself and and the way that he's trained her and rewarded her, I mean, this is a dog that literally can walk, you know, like you know how they do on those ropes she can. It's, it's an amazing. I'll have to find the video and have you guys watch it, but he's a trainer, she, she, literally. He can send her towards the person in the suit right, the bite suit, the bite work. He will send her and right before she reaches he'll call her off, she'll come back, he'll tell her to go get it again and he can do that right before she goes for the bite. He can call her Wow, that's amazing and send her back.
Speaker 1:She is so well trained. And then when she's not on, she's, just like you know, kind of hanging with him. But again, um, these dogs get a bad reputation because the, the owners, do not understand how to train them and what their natural um instinct is. So, just like pit bulls, you know yeah, I mean that or any dog, I mean you can have a vicious chihuahua, right yeah, you could had one of those.
Speaker 2:She couldn't hurt anybody because she only weighs five pounds and didn't have any jaw strength. But she never like socialized, she barked she'd bite anybody. She didn't bite me if I was doing something. She didn't like you know, she was a little snot, she was a little prima donna.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I mean I think you have to understand that dogs, you know, people don't understand dog behavior. They punish them but sometimes they're just being dogs, they're just doing what dogs do? I mean, like Rex has tons of energy. I mean he needs a lot of activity and I'm like, oh my gosh, I can see now why people struggle with having high energy dogs like this. Just like you're saying, they're in the city and they just go on, like you know, a 20 minute leash walk a couple times a day. And these real smart, high drive dogs, they need mental stimulation, they need something to do, they want to, they want to puzzle, you know. That's why, when you train them like, they love to work, because they want something, something to do, they want to be using their, their brains and that's why you feed them clean food.
Speaker 1:So you don't add to that hyperactivity. If you want good kids, we don't sit them down and give them a mountain dew, a donut, and then you know uh, cap and crunch, I mean oh, then you just follow it up with ritalin and they're fine oh my gosh, you're just like, come on, that's.
Speaker 1:you know, then you're putting toxins in the body and, and so I hope that we will look at it from all aspects about what we're feeding them, right. What are they taking into their body? What toxins are playing a part? I was, I was talking to a lady here here I think I might have said this on the last podcast and she was telling me about her dogs. Now, a lot of people don't know who I am here. I mean, I do have the big raw dog food trucks sitting out in the driveway, so that somewhat of a clue. But, um, her dogs were on hydrolyzed protein, they were on a medication for a certain problem that they had in their ears, which caused them also to lose all their hair. But but they're, and they were and they were overweight.
Speaker 1:You know, and I'm looking at it, thinking if we could just you know back up, if we could just you know back up, right, because this was a pattern that she had been doing for years, since she got these dogs from the breeder and they're like seven years old, and I'm thinking, oh my, this is just stacked upon.
Speaker 1:Stacked upon wrong belief, wrong worries, wrong fears that perpetrated wrong actions, right? You look at that and you're like and these dogs are suffering, right, but that suffering comes from fear most of the time. I'm afraid my dog's going to get rabies, so I give him the rabies shot. I'm afraid my dog's going to get kennel cough, so I just give him that too. Now I'm afraid of the bird flu, and there's going to be a vaccine that's going to come out about that, and then I'm going to get kennel cough, so I just give them that too. Now I'm afraid of the bird flu, and there's going to be a vaccine is going to come out about that, and then I'm going to be stressed out, so I'm going to go ahead and take my shingle shot. You see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or people, you know, just out of that fear, just going into the vet, you know, like, like, then the dogs get so many more drugs and so much more stuff that just makes their body more toxic and they end up getting, you know, sicker and sicker. You know I was telling you earlier about rex this weekend. You know, he had these really weird, like really strange neural and I work with people, dogs, all the time, and something's really odd to me, like that's pretty odd, Like I just couldn't put my finger on what was going on. He started, we were outside and he started by like running in circles, like big circles, kind of like panic, like we're talking, like he heard something, something was hurting his ears, like he was trying to get away from something. And they came in the house and he was also panic, running back and forth and not even like responding to me, like not you know his name or anything. And actually it progressed to the point that he was, he became less and less aware. It was like semi comatose. So I'm like, oh my God, what do I? So am I afraid? Yeah, I'm afraid at that point, I'm afraid I might lose him. Like well, okay, what do I do Like it's clearly a brain thing. Most brain things are brain swelling.
Speaker 2:Now, most people probably would have taken their dog in to the vet, which would have been appropriate because he was not in good shape. Like I could get him up and he would. I could get him on his feet and he would just stagger like about six feet and then plop down again. So, and just no real awareness. And so I had I did give him some injectable steroids to bring down brain swelling and thought about, well, if I take him in, what is there? Is there anything else they could do at an emergency clinic that I can't do here at the house? So I had the steroids and I gave him some DMSO and I've been giving him CBD and and things like that, and so I just decided to stick with that and I keep telling myself you know, I mean I'm running through my head of all the things I've ever learned.
Speaker 2:You know, when you think about things like meningitis and cephalitis, you know where they're talking and I just can imagine what they'd want to do if I took him in. They'd want to be doing x-rays, they'd want to be doing a checking his cerebral spinal fluids, they're doing a spinal tap. You know they'd want to do all these tests and tests and tests and tests and I'm like, okay, that's just a lot of stress going to be a lot of drugs. He'd have to be probably sedated for all that stuff. They'd have him on probably three high power antibiotics just in case. So we're hammering his gut and I'm just like I, I'm just going to believe that his body can, can heal this, can respond.
Speaker 2:I mean, I did give him the steroid shot because at that point I had to get there. You have to get the brain swelling down, regardless of what it was, whether it was toxin, I think it was something toxic, something unusual like that, I don't know what yet. But about two hours later he started responding and he's been responding since. And he's been responding since and I've given him some detox stuff, like some zeolite and some clay, some detox clay and some horsetail helps detox, like heavy metals and things like that. But I'm not doing it a ton, you know, I'm just I'm watching his body and I think it was a really strong awareness for me.
Speaker 2:Like, okay, I don't want to just throw a ton of drugs at him just in case, which is what conventional medicine does. Why? Because we're afraid. We're afraid this pet isn't going to get better. And then we're going to be responsible. We're going to throw 18 drugs at this dog and see if they um, see if something sticks. But in the the same time you're you're poisoning the body. You're giving the body more and more stuff to deal with. So you know I'll continue to help his body detox. I still don't know what it was. He's better. Yesterday morning he stayed in the bathtub all day. It's a really strange, really strange behavior, like not wanting to go outside. He's very sensitive to stimuli, like to light, noise, like, and if I like go to pet him and he like sees my hand coming, he'll like like he's just just still not completely with it, but but he's better today.
Speaker 2:But I go through processing all that, the fear. And okay, what am I going to do? Do I need to be, you know, afraid of some boogeyman disease, or am I just going to help support his body as best I can and believe that his body is going to be able to resolve this because he lives a pristine life? I mean, we're not in the city, we're not in this rural area. He eats, you know, raw food. He's not vaccinated, you know. So we've done all the stuff and probably that's even though this happened it's probably all helping him recover. You know, it's like we were saying with dogs that are continually getting lots and lots of drugs are going to end up with more chronic illness. So, you know, his body's going to get through this and then he's going to have a better chance of getting back to normal and not having chronic illness so why?
Speaker 1:why wouldn't you think well, this is the bird flu, right? That's the newest one, right? This is what most pet parents might go to? What, why, why, why did you not even think about that?
Speaker 2:because I think the bird flu is just made up fear propaganda. I think it's created to make us afraid, and so I just wouldn't even go there. And and I didn't think it was raw food either well, you know people because we we get these.
Speaker 1:You know calls, you know, um, and yet you and I see that there, most of the time, there aren't any questions asked. When a dog has been on on kibble, there's a lot of chemicals in it or it's had a lot of preventatives or a lot of pharmaceuticals in its body. Right now is it that or isn't it? I don't know. But I just wonder why that is not a question, right, and it wasn't a question for you. But I was just wondering why. It's interesting you know a lot of people that we get so many calls. I'm sure you do too. Right now, what are we doing about the bird flu? Well, we're doing everything in the uh food and modernization act, right? Um, that is required to make sure that we don't have animals in our supply that had, like mad cow disease, which you know when you really look at what. What was mad cow disease, dr jay Jasek, it was. It was a neurological condition caused by a chemical that they were putting on the animals, right? So a lot of pet parents right now, out of fear about this bird flu, would probably be more in favor of chemicals being put on livestock if they were told that that chemical would prevent this so-called bird flu that we have no real evidence of. And yet could those chemicals, um, cause neurological damage in that food, right, and in those animals? And could that food get back in your dog's food supply, right? We never think about it that way, and instead of saying where is the evidence of this bird flu, why do we have so few cases if it is such an epidemic?
Speaker 1:It was the same way in COVID. Why were the hospitals incentivized to categorize a death of any kind as COVID? To bring the death count up that had COVID associated with it, to bring the fear up so that we would accept a toxic chemical going into our body? Right, this is the way that it works, but it's difficult sometimes to look at things logically, especially when you have a massive amount of fear. Think about how a neighbor might have changed their personality, totally changed, when they found out that you weren't going to wear a mask. Not you, dr JC, but you as a listener. You weren't going to wear a mask or you weren't going to get vaxxed. You were marked as you know, the mark of the beast. You know, like they might as well stamp the 666 on your head.
Speaker 2:Well then those people that weren't following the agenda were the ones that were perpetuating the disease. Well, if everybody would just, I actually had one of my own family members say this to me. Well, I mean, she was like pretending like I wasn't there Well, if everybody would just get vaccinated, then all these rules would go away. And that was the press. Like, if everybody would get, they could reach a certain level of vaccinations, certain percentage of people vaccinated, then they're all the rules and restrictions and everything would go away. So then anybody not following the rules was made out to be the bad guy and they ostracize that.
Speaker 2:So there's that other level of fear, that fear of rejection or not fitting in or not being part of the part of the crowd. And I bet a lot of people got the vaccine just for that reason, even if they didn't really want it, or they didn't feel like, well, you're not going to be able to go see grandma if you don't get it. So you know. So there were repercussions. Even though they might not have been specifically afraid of the virus, even though they might not have been specifically afraid of the virus, they were afraid of the consequences or not fitting in. So it's just another level of fear, and then those of us that stuck it out. Then you find other people that didn't buy into that fear that you know stuck to their guns and stuck to what they believe was true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was astonishing to me how that fear produced a belief that was so real, so real for these folks that their hatred just exploded, their hatred to the point where you had people on tv calling for the people who did not wear a mask or who were not vaccinated to be put in camps, maybe even sometimes, be you know, put to death yeah right, and you think about what we do out of fear to our pets and what the institutions, the, the supposed health agencies for our pets do out of this said fear, right, we're going to, even though your dog is itching and you know it's got cancer, we're going to go ahead and give it another rabies shot.
Speaker 1:You're like what, in tarnation, is happening here, right? So fear, fear is something that that that I hope that we can all like review in our lives and then figure out. And there are some great resources, dr Jasek, that really will help people um, deal with fear, because it's not as if you're never gonna feel fear. I think the people that I, that I work with today, um are really showing how, um, you can have a, a emotion and let it go. Right, you have it and you let it go, you don't hold on to it, you don't stuff it, you don't repress it. And then, secondly, I was sharing with you if you guys are interested, I'll just pass this on and this woman's name is Florence Scovel Shin and she wrote a book called the Game of Life and how to Win it. This is back in 1925. And I really like her work because she takes the spiritual side and brings it all together with how we think right and how we manifest things in our life and what really an enemy of fear is, how fear perpetuates negative things in our life, how we can transform that energy. I'm not sure you can make that energy go away, dr JC, but you can transform it, transmute it, learn how to work with it differently, and that is only going to benefit us in our relationships and our own health and certainly in the health of our dogs, because what I see is that the majority of whether that is dog food or dog pharmaceuticals is driven by fear. We certainly saw that in dilated cardiomyopathy. We see that in Parvo you can say we've had one outbreak in Parvo, in this part of the country, and everybody loses their mind, and the same thing with rabies. So that's one thing that really drives the industry. It drives most industries, I would say. But since we're a dog food show or a dog, a pet health show, I would say we as pet parents, in order to be that leader that they need, we need to understand how to deal with our fear so that it doesn't negatively impact them. And I would say if we learn that, it will help us to not negatively affect our own lives as well. Right, absolutely right.
Speaker 1:But there is an audio version out there uh, someone that it's. It's on youtube and they're reading the entire book. It's only two hours long. It's called the game of life and how to play it. The game of life and how to play. Anyway, her name is Florence Scovel Shin A-S-H-I-N-N. Written back in 1925, and I think there's a lot of different programs that are kind of born out of that. Certainly she's probably not the first one, even in 1925, but it's a very good. We needed something to ponder, and I think it would really benefit you, as a pet parent and just as an overall human being, to feel better and more confident in your own life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know a veterinarian, a colleague of mine that I know she actually wrote this is Dr Claudia Costa. She's in Brazil, she's Brazilian, and she wrote a book on mistletoe and when I was at the AHVMA conference last fall I got to meet her. She was speaking there on mistletoe and I got to meet her and visit with her and she said that in Brazil and in other parts of the world she's actually writing. Her next book is going to be on treating like the whole family, bringing in, acknowledging that the human, the health, the physical, emotional health of the humans, has a huge effect on the pets. And she said in her country it's very well recognized. It's kind of a foreign concept here, you know, and I think it's really important. You know, we both recognize it's really important but it's not something that people hear too much about. So maybe it's something we need to talk about more and at least get people thinking about it. Just explore it, just bring it into your awareness.
Speaker 2:If you're feeling anxious feeling, you know emotions, watch your pet's behavior. You know their behavior, I know. If I'm, like you know, upset about something, rex is just like, he's like, okay, I'm not sure what to do here. Mom's kind of mom's kind of upset. I think I'll just lay low and see, just in case it's me, you know, or what's going on, you know. But they, they watch you, you know, they do, you know, tune into behavior, and if you see that and can recognize how much your emotions are affecting your pet's behavior, and then you know.
Speaker 2:I think when it comes to fear, you have to really ask is is this, is this real, is there something here to really be afraid of? Is there, is there a grizzly bear chasing me? Or is this something I'm making up in my head? Because if you're just making it up in your head, then we've been told to believe it. Then you can just change, you can change your mind, you can change how you're thinking about things or what you're feeling. Not to stuff emotions but acknowledge them but then say, okay, I really don't need that, that emotion isn't serving me. How about let's feel something different? Right, let's feel some gratitude, let's feel a different emotion, let me feel love for my pet or something like that, and it's like anything else. I think it's a habit, it's practice. It's like training your muscles. You have to work at it and engage in it's practice. It's like training your muscles. You know you have to, you have to work at it and engage in it. You know, day in and day out.
Speaker 1:Well, you and I were talking about this that even like Lazi, one of the things that that people comment is on how well behaved she is.
Speaker 1:Now, are there dogs that just pop out and they're just naturally well-behaved, probably. But anything that's done well, there's been much energy, much time and much money probably put behind it. So training Lossie's been through hours and hours and hours of training, right, I was saying this about any good athlete, any child that's a good athlete. Their parents have put many, many hours, many miles, many dollars into that training, right? So it's not as if you know as we're talking about when I look at how to train the mind and how to manifest what we want or how to move fear out so that we can think more clearly. It all takes training, it all takes time and it might take some money even to hire a coach to help you through that. So sometimes people don't realize that they're like, wow, she's just so well-trained and I'm like, well, your dog could also be well-trained if you so desired to put that time and that money and that effort into it, right?
Speaker 2:Yep, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or I even look at our daughter, who's a vet, right, she, as you know, was very standard of care for a very long time. Why? Because that's the way she was trained. But she graduated 10 years ago. In this time she has gone through chiropractic school. She has gone through now acupuncture and chinese herbs. All of that is is has dramatically changed the way that she sees and views standard of care now. But that required hours, training, money, a desire to learn, right.
Speaker 1:So fear. Will you have to do something to remove fear and that's probably going to be hours, training, money, research, right. Going over to see someone like Dr Jacek at ahavetcom, moving away from the kibble and getting on a pure raw diet at raw dog food and company. You know things like that. People say, well, it's expensive to do that, it might be more money. For sure it might be more money because protein is the thing that costs the most, not corn, not chemicals. You know not manufactured. You know scientific things that are being put together in a lab. It's our natural food out there. But fear will keep you in a certain spot and will not allow you to move forward to be educated in another way.
Speaker 1:I remember we were going into a vet clinic one time to and they still today they're in Colorado refer a lot of raw to their clients, but one of the vets literally would not come into the talk and subsequently, because that vet clinic decided they were going to recommend raw diets, she left the clinic. That's how strong her fear was of raw food that she totally said I'm not going to work in this clinic anymore and went to another clinic where they they very much aligned with no raw it. I was just like, seriously, that's how much she, um, was in fear of raw food, that it was an inferior product but had never fed it and had never really seen clients that fed raw because that wasn't going to be in her belief system, right? So she knew nothing about it, nothing. But her fear of it kept her from doing something that was better for her pets and for her clients I think more, more and more people.
Speaker 2:I think you know, if a vet clinic has one or two clients that come in and they're feeding raw like they have no problem moving them on, or they push back on the rabies, no problem moving them on. But if they had a bigger percentage of their clientele coming in saying, look, this is the way we're going to feed our dog and you need to support us in this, or we're going to go elsewhere, there's going to be a tipping point. The consumer will speak. There's going to be a tipping point. If enough people did that, then I think the vets might. You know, if it might hit them in the pocketbook, then they might take notice and maybe start to learn something about it. But so more, more people need to get out there and do it.
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Speaker 2:You know that it's the raw food and oh, you have to have a rabies shot and they just they cave because they see that as an as an authority person. But you know, you have to learn. You have to learn what's best for your pet and then advocate for them.
Speaker 1:Well, I heard her say hydrolyzed protein is just basically cardboard. Right, and you've said that many, many times, but it's taken a while for that evolution to happen. For fear, I just spent $250,000 in vet school. It can't be wrong. $250,000 in vet school it can't be wrong. Why would I want to have that in my energy field? I just spent $250,000 to get. If they're wrong about that, what else are they wrong about?
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, right everything.
Speaker 1:Right, that's a tough, that's a really tough situation, it's a tough one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a tough one to come around until you're out in the real world and if you open your eyes and you see okay, this conventional way of doing things is not making pets healthier. That's what brought me around. Pets keep getting sicker, so maybe we need to be looking at this differently.
Speaker 1:Well, think about it, dr Jason, the whole dilated cardiomyopathy. Think about it, dr jason, the whole dilated cardiomyopathy. Is it that the, the dogs actually changed, or the story just changed, right, and, and the vets actually thought they were seeing dcm in these type of dogs because of a belief that was around it? But I mean, once that was brought to the forefront, once that curtain was pulled back and said, hey, this was just a, um, you know, just a, uh, manufactured thing. Do you hear about it like we were hearing about it? Did it just go away? No, they stopped pointing the finger at it and you've got to say what else are we getting information on? No different than COVID, right, you have a cold, you know you have a cold, you know? No, I have COVID. And so the difference between a cold and COVID was COVID's going to kill you. A cold is just something I have every year.
Speaker 2:same thing it was the only the difference was the level of fear around it right, a huge level of fear just like the flu.
Speaker 2:You know, like, when COVID was going on, nobody talked about getting the flu because all symptoms were considered COVID. You know, because of the testing you know there was, there was there was no flu season because everybody got COVID. It's just the same stuff. It's the winter detox that we tend to go through and they just named it something different and created a whole lot more fear around it and also came up with the testing where it, where it tested positive. So really it was an epidemic of positive tests, not of anything else.
Speaker 2:I believe you know you asked me before about why I was not afraid that rex might have bird flu. It's like because I now believe that all disease or symptoms are toxicity of some sort. It's the body, the symptoms are actually the body trying to heal something and with, like, his symptoms, the two things I kept thinking about, okay, toxicity or trauma, which I had no evidence of trauma. I hadn't seen anything, so I didn't think that was likely. But was I worried about some infectious boogeyman you know in there infecting his brain? No, because they talk about, you know, meningitis or encephalitis and these viruses and bacteria and they'd want to be checking for all that stuff and like, like no, I'm just not going to go, I'm not going to go down that road. I'm going to do what I can to help support his body in the healing process and let his body resolve it, and I'm not going to be afraid of these, you know, viruses, or even even the bacteria. It's, it's, you know, it's toxicity that causes disease and that, I think, can include back to fear. Toxic emotions like fear, you know, can lead to disease because it makes the body, if you're always, if you're in fear, you're in that sympathetic fight or flight mode, and it's the same for your pet. So, if you're feeling this fear and your body is in that sympathetic mode, like the same thing as you're running from the grizzly bear, your body is in this constantly stressed state. It can't repair, it can't heal itself, it can't heal the little things, it can't pay attention to, the can't do the maintenance, because it's always in the state of fear. Well, if your pet picks up on that, that's stress, that's the chronic illness you know caused by stress is staying in that, in that state of fear In nature.
Speaker 2:You know you got a zebra being chased by a tiger or something. Are they afraid in that moment? Sure, but then the tiger goes away. If you ever watch like the National Geographic shows or something like that, the tiger goes away. If you ever watched like the National Geographic shows or something like that, the tiger, the wolf pack, runs into a herd of something and they chase them and they're panicked and they're running, and then maybe they'll get one, maybe they won't. But then what happens? The rest of the herd moves on, they shake, they shake it off and they go back to eating. You know, that's the appropriate physiologic response. This chronic state of fear is, you know, really, really detrimental, and I think it really does lead to disease in us and our pets.
Speaker 1:Well, if you believe that, when the whole manifestation thing right, and when you've heard almost anybody talk about how do we manifest that in our life which we want? What is the one thing that they always say Feel the emotion intensely because that gets sent out and a ripple effect comes back. Now, if that's the case, and we're just going to take that little short excerpt, then what doesn't it stand to reason that fear that has this incredible high charge, emotion will also create something right, and it's so powerful fear, and so you are extremely charged. Think about this. You have this emotion that you do not have to manufacture. It is there, it is suffocating, it almost just takes you to your knees and the mind starts a whirling with all of the horrible things that could happen that haven't happened, that you don't have any evidence that are going to happen, but you're sure they're going to happen because they're playing out in your head, right?
Speaker 2:Right, you're just making up stories. So if you're going to make up a story, why not make up a good story? Why not make up a positive story?
Speaker 1:Yeah, how dangerous is that in the moment, dr Jasek, if we don't get a handle around our fear? Fear and transmute that, couldn't that be said that that's a very destructive thing to do to ourselves and our pets. That's extremely powerful, and I think that, whoever they are, the they that are running this world, that understand, maybe, the spiritual laws, that understand how energy works, it would behoove them to set fear into motion, because it renders you powerless and it causes chaos that can then be capitalized on sure, and it's easy.
Speaker 2:It's, it's gotten much easier because people are so dependent on the system. You know we're trying to grow more of our own food here and stuff like that and part of the reason for that is so that we have some independence. If, say, we can't get food at the grocery store, we have a fallback. But you know, there's about 72 hours worth of food in most grocery stores because it comes from so long, so far away. Yeah, the UPS truck, or they say most food travels 1500 miles or something to get to the grocery store. So 72 hours those shelves are empty.
Speaker 2:You're going to have massive fear and then people are very easy to control because they want to eat and they want to feed their families. So the you know, being dependent on you know things outside of yourself, being dependent on that for your survival, is not a good thing, or at least having some. I mean, use the resources while they're there and you can get them. But you know, be aware that if that stuff goes away, you're going to be really susceptible to falling into that fear and then just doing whatever you're told because you may not have a choice.
Speaker 1:So best you practice now managing and working with your fear than when you're in a situation like that, because that's not going to be the time right. You're just going to.
Speaker 2:You're just going to you got to kind of have a handle on it at that point.
Speaker 1:Right, right. So I'm just that's something that I'm, that I'm working on in my own life Obviously, anybody that has a job or runs a business in the climate that we have been in, that we are still in, there's much fear around what will happen with the food supply, what will happen with the banks, what will happen with this or that. There's lots of fear to go around. So that is something that I'm actively working on, right, I'm actively working on my fear and I think every single day we get that chance to practice because of what might happen to our dogs in a given moment, a spouse, a child, our business, our finances certainly look at what's happening in California, right. So all of the it's awful. It's awful, and our survival, our health, our ability to have joy in this world depends on us being able to transmute and I'm going to use that word transmute that fear energy into something differently. So I don't know what path is you guys, your listeners out there, what your path is or who you might resonate with, but there's many teachers out there and, if you so choose, check out Florence Scovel, shin S-H-I-N-N. The Game of Life and how to Play it. Again. There is a version on YouTube where someone is reading that book, and for a lot of people they just aren't. In today's world they won't sit down and actually read a book, so you don't have to. Somebody's reading it out loud, and then maybe it takes you on another journey. Somebody's reading it out loud and, and then maybe it takes you on another journey. But I think it it's um, it's. It's important for um the health of humans and of animals everywhere and you know what else is is good for uh animals is to work with dr judy j6 team at ahavetcom, ahavetcom, ahavetcom.
Speaker 1:You have a cancer diagnosis. You're fearful of what you've been told in standard medicine. Something's not feeling right. Maybe you want to switch over to raw food. You'd like to have a veterinarian help you with that? Well, dr Jasek is certainly the person that can help you. We can help your dog.
Speaker 1:Eat clean, as my sweatshirt says today. Eat clean, uh, right here at rawdogfood and companycom. Um brian is there. Do a free 20-minute console. You can get to us by chat. You can text us. Um, you don't really have to call email and text. You don't have to do all three. You can get those people to call intent, intent, yeah, and hint, hint, hint, and then they'll text and then we get them all. We know, yesterday somebody called five times and left a message, and I guess I should say we'll get the first one, I promise you, and return it. But sometimes they get afraid that we're not going to get the message, so they just keep calling and leaving more messages. But we do get them and we will return your call. So get over to rawdogfoodandcompanycom, where your pet's health is our business. And what, dr Jasek? Friends don't let friends feed, kibble y'all. That's right, we'll see you soon, everybody. Bye-bye.
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